Poll: Indefinite survival during a zombie apocalypse: Logical?

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Nurb

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1. JUST WAIT A FEW WEEKS FOR ZOMBIES TO DECOMPOSE ENOUGH THEY FALL APART
2. REBUILD CIVILIZATION

NO. NO PROFIT. THERE ARE ONLY TWO STEPS.

if they're really dead, they fall apart. if they still lumber about, they're not dead and are just infected with a virus and will eventually die. zombies are easy.
 

Dr. UBAR

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Ok everyones saying big walls will stop them but if your around a lot of zombies they just start to walk on top of one another because the ones at the front get pretty much crushed and eventually a few will make it over the wall but if your on an island i guess there wouldn't be that many zombies so close together.
 

Calax

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The biggest problem (depending on where you are and the season) would be fresh water. Somebody mentioned being near a stream, the problem with that is that if a zombie dies in the waterway upstream of your location, you'll have to deal with contaminated water. If you go for the oceanic route you need desalination, otherwise you got insane. If it's the winter where ever you are, you might be able to survive off rains, but if it's the summer and you're in SoCal? You are SCREWED buddy. You'll probably die of dehydration in 10 or so days.

Max the Reapers plan would actually have the most merit, but romance and sexual activity would probably have to be divorced from each other lest we cause inbreeding.
 

The Ruiner

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I don't want to be a jerk(and I understand this is just a theoretical question, and just meant for some fun) but based on the replies most of you would die from bad choices. However, atleast the people who wrote them tried to be original. Which is the exact opposite of the people with logical ideas, they seemed ripped from the "Zombie Survival Guide", and "World War Z" both from Max Brooks. I really think the Thread Creator should have specified which particular type of Zombie he meant(Romero, Boyle, etc...). Simply because what works for a slow zombie would not work for a fast one.
 

Fireandice

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since the zombies are undead they would eventually just decay until they are not a threat, essentially ending the zombie apocalypse. so yes i would say that it is possible to survive. but what do i know? this could take a long time and everyone may be dead by then anyway lol.

oh yes, thanks to my biology lessons i can say that if we DO survive the zombies, the great thing is that it may never happen again...EVER. this is because anyone who survived would be immune and so would their children and so on and so forth. so unless a new form of zombie plague arrives we will all be sweet. yay.
 

God's Clown

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Lonan said:
As we are obviously under the assumption that zombies are possible, I will start without going after that. While I didn't read the whole synopsis, (thus obviously haven't read the movie) can the zombies swim hundreds of kilometres to an island in the middle of nowhere? If they apparently can, it's on. In order for objects to move, they must have either mechanical or biological propulsion. To cut to the chase, zombies have to eat. With 99% of the world zombies, they would have to eat each other as farms would no longer produce food. In this sense, you could out last the zombies as they would not be able to sustain themselves with animals. They couldn't run around forever, as energy is conserved, being able to move around requires energy. So unless they made a huge efficient mass of zombies move towards the island, assuming they were intelligent enough to take one for the team and get eaten for the cause of whatever it is their cause is, assuming they somehow could sense humans,(direction to swim) and ate one another to keep going, thus reducing their assault numbers significantly, it would be impossible to attack people on an abandoned island in the middle of the ocean. As for supplies running out, that would depend on the islands size and the number of people there and their individual food and water requirements. If they were only in a fortress, that would pose a problem. Although, they could just run around outside gathering food, if humanity still has the capacity to fend for itself, that is. As for zombies outside, that would depend on the population in such an area. I did read a bit at the end of the synopsis that they planned to drive to Canada. Zombies would not be able to follow you far north, especially if the infection was in winter. Assuming zombies aren't intelligent enough to bundle up, they would die very quickly to freezing temperatures. If you were with a few companions armed with good guns and lots of ammunition at the top of a Canadian mountain in winter with a three weeks worth of supplies, you'd be fine. You can survive without food for three weeks, so if the zombies didn't eat each other, in three weeks they would all be gone. If they did, well, the disgusting mathematical fun begins. I have decided to remove the research I did on calories per unit of human flesh, (no one seems to be well learned on the subject for some reason) and simply say that humans have an average of 50000 calories, and that one zombie would have to be sacrificed to twenty zombies everyday. Since they are brain dead they would likely use their collective resources extrememly quickly like humans and end up all dead in slightly more then three weeks, but let us assume they do what I say for now. If we take New York, a city of 8 million (ignoring the minus 1% since it's a rough number) the zombies existence would have an extension of (I can't remember what equation to use) days on the 3 week starvation threshold, thus making New York zombie free within under 100(lets say) days. While there would surely be other food sources to increase their existence, let's say the zombies eat them first, granting them another, say ten days on their existence. In conclusion, you could ride out the zombie storm. And I hate zombie movies, fyi.
Tip for the future: use multiple paragraphs.
 

Break

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Ravenbom said:
It'd be hard to organize the random 1% that are immune. They'd be all spread out in geographically separate places.
Why is the 1% immunity random?
 

perfectimo

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I would say it is quite possible to sit it out. I have never heard of a zombie attacking a person and so I have not made a zombie plan myself, though to be fair a zombie apocalypse is as likely to me as a army of inanimate objects taking over the world is. So from my understanding you could just go about your life and live with the zombies perhaps even go to the same schools with them.

Why do people even use time thinking about zombie apocalypses?
 

coffin

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i have thought about this since i saw my first zombie movie and well i think that if you played things right the right area and with the ability to defend your self well you could indeed survive now heres the catch, the amount of people who have killed something and still live in civilised society is very low and going hand in hand the amount of people who are able to take an object and destroy something that was once human and still looks alive enough to be classed as human also very low. become heartless and study the human body :D find weak places to make it easier to kill them and you shall be fine but im just ranting
 

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The Ruiner said:
I don't want to be a jerk(and I understand this is just a theoretical question, and just meant for some fun) but based on the replies most of you would die from bad choices. However, atleast the people who wrote them tried to be original. Which is the exact opposite of the people with logical ideas, they seemed ripped from the "Zombie Survival Guide", and "World War Z" both from Max Brooks. I really think the Thread Creator should have specified which particular type of Zombie he meant(Romero, Boyle, etc...). Simply because what works for a slow zombie would not work for a fast one.
Which proves my point. After the initial death of everyone trying to be cool and ride around in nomadic societies, try to live their whole life on boats, or walks around using Max Brooks as a walkthrough to "real life", the rest of us are going to be fine.
 

Abedeus

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Break said:
Ravenbom said:
It'd be hard to organize the random 1% that are immune. They'd be all spread out in geographically separate places.
Why is the 1% immunity random?

A wizard did it.

Actually, assuming nothing in the universe is impossible, it might be a combination of:

a) blood type;
b) natural resistance;
c) how many diseases you have been through;
d) alignment of the stars on the day you were born,

that people will survive. Some of them. Like Will Smith.
 

goodman528

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Flying-Emu said:
1% survives immune to both contact and airborne strain.
1% is 60 million. So people will form groups and suvival zones, and survive indefinitely in forts.

If it's much lower, say, 0.01%, 600,000 people, i.e. 1 in every 10,000. Then it's likely not enough suvivors can gather in large enough groups to be effect.

There's a critical mass somewhere in between.
 

Silver

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C Lion said:
Silver said:
Yes. Very, very, very easily. In fiction zombies are supposed to be presented as a threat, and sure, they could be. Initially. But after say, a year, when all stupid and panicky people have already gotten themselves killed, the rest of the humans could easily make it.
The fatal flaw presents itself, a lot can go wrong in a year. 1 by 1, you might lose people during supply raids, or dissent in your stronghold could lead to mutinies or something. Really all you can hope for is to survive as long as possible, maybe get some communication out. Try to rally with other survivors.
Yes, and the survivors will be all the stronger for it. They will learn what to look out for, and to be careful. They will learn how and when to aquire food or weapons, they will learn what's safe and what isn't.

Sure, there could be mutinies, and all sorts of disasters in the strongholds, but most people who've survived this far would be smart enough to realise that even if there are disagreements, letting the zombies have their lunch is worse, and that killing each other will only lead to humans being completely wiped out.

This is also completely ignoring all of the obstacles zombies would have themselves, in the real world. Energy conservation, decomposition, mindlessness and such can put a bit of a stop to the whole slaying all of humanity plan.
 

Danny Smooth

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This question really depends on the definition of "indefinitely". Based on the logical progression of species survival throughout time, nothing survives indefinitely (everything living dies, eventually).

Furthermore, how does one take into account all the zombies that are derived from Voodoo or Witchcraft? These guys aren't bound by the same rules as "viral" zombies.

The main problem with zombies is that they are the perfect siege weapon, eventually something will go wrong with the enclosed population. There will always be dissenters in such a community and that's when the zombies capitalize.
 

scotth266

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Read World War Z, it has all the simulation you'll need on the subject.
 

Matthicus

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Why go all the way to an island when you can just live on the boat, or a series of them? I've always been partial to the idea of a Flotilla of some kind. I guess it could just be one boat, but if you had enough, you could catch fish, purify sea water through boiling, or those things that you take camping to purify river water. Can zombies swim in the ocean? I don't think so, wouldn't the saltwater destroy them and make them squishy and just lumps of flesh? I live less than a 30 second walk from a yacht club and I know how to sail. I think we would make it.