Poll: International Burn a Koran Day

[SL33TBL1ND]

Burning a flag is pretty different to burning a culture's holy book. At least here in Australia where patriotism is seen as something distasteful. I know in America flag burning is seen as something different but come on. It's not as if every Muslim burns American flags, if for example, there was something that symbolised all those who do, then maybe burning that would be understandable. Pointless, but understandable.

 

[oktalist]

My question in response to this is, if some Mosque declared a burn-a-bible day, would the backlash be the same? My money's on no. Just putting that out there.

I think it would be worse, but it would be different people doing the lashing back (extreme right wing rather than centre/left), and for different reasons (to promote fear rather than to oppose racism).

I don't think you understood what I was saying. You just agreed with my point. The reaction wouldn't be from the center/left in the case of a bible-burning. The same people who went into a frenzy when they heard a Koran-burning was happening wouldn't lift a finger to stop a Bible-burning from happening. It's inconsistent. If you're going to try and enforce a rule for one religion, you need to enforce it for all religions, or not enforce it for any.

I think there's a case for defending Islam more zealously than other religions at the moment, just as there was a case for defending Judaism more zealously than other religions in the 1930s, because they are at greater risk of persecution than other religions.

Also, you do realize that Islam is a religion and not a race, right? There are Caucasian Muslims just as there are Arab Christians. Your religion is something you can change throughout your life as your beliefs change and you experience new things, but you race is something you're born with and can't ever change (unless your name is Michael Jackson, am I right fellas? *ba-dum tss*).

Racism, religious intolerance, it's the same thing. And anyway, Muslims are predominantly dark skinned Asians and Africans, whereas Christians are quite evenly distributed across the world and across races. And not everyone really has the opportunity to change religion; for most people, it's just something you're born with.

 

[Verlander]

Wow,did I ever say nationalism is good? No. You just assumed that since I disagreed with your view that I did. If you want to continue the witch hunt go ahead. Still, saying that one object > other object is just sad. You don't need a book or anything like that to learn whatever morality you are taught...the object itself holds no importance unless you let it. I was just pointing out that all symbols at their base are the same. The only thing that makes them important is us.

I'm done because I apparently can't have a debate with you without being called a nazi. Man, you can't stand other opinion can you

Did I ever call you a Nazi? No. You just assumed I did. You back a symbol that is only as important in Nationalist mentality, you challenge my opinion by defending nationalism and equating it as important as religion. Saying that one object = any other object is ignorant. I can't see any American preferring to see their constitution burnt than their flag. While I agree with your sentiment that what makes an object important is the person, the object, community and your upbringing are what makes you. As nearly every single community, government and moral code is based upon one book or another, than that book, however distanced, is more valuable to a person. Maybe YOU won't get annoyed by an object largely significant to your history. I wouldn't either. But the majority of the people in the world DO. That is why burning the Koran is pathetic, and while burning a flag is also pathetic, there is a world of difference between the two.

Out of interest, where does it start for you? When does it get inappropriate? When protesters start digging up bodies? There has to be a point where it stops. Burning the Koran has no significance other than trying to fuck the Muslim world off. There is no reason for it. It's petty and pathetic, and you shouldn't be allowed. America isn't a third world country under the oppression of the Muslim world. And when they did become violent on American soil, America went in and practically destroyed two countries in the process of "battling terrorism". So why burn a Koran? Why let people inflame a war that has been won?

And don't get pissed off that I "insulted you", when is you tally up the total "insults" you are far ahead in the total, and scored the first blow. That that you are making an effort, saying that somebody arguing the most peaceful solution has "hate filled glasses".