Poll: Is Anything Possible?

[rokkolpo]

unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.

Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.

One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.

on microscopic or smaller level a seemingly perfect circle isn't as perfect anymore.

 

[crudus]

Dividing by zero.

Hah.

Eat it.

Prove it. You can't get away with just saying things. Back them up with logic.

 

[Zacharine]

unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.

Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.

One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.

Language. That is how you are disproved. Maybe in another planet your sharp angled thing is called a circle. Therefore, a circle could have sharp angles.

Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not. The locals would simply be using another word for a circle, such as a Decahedron. Therefore, to the locals, a circle would not be a decahedron. It does not matter if you switch linguistic definitions, the logical absolute is - absolute.

 

[PoliceBox63]

Just because there may be infinite dimensions doesn't mean everything happens somewhere.

And also this poll should be renamed "is everything possible" because is anything possible means any one thing and that's not semantics it's sense.

 

[Zacharine]

unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.

Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.

One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.

on microscopic or smaller level a seemingly perfect circle isn't as perfect anymore.

A perfect circle is a concept, just like infinity.

That brings up another point: It is impossible to create a perfect circle from any sub-particles that have dimensions.

 

[MurderousToaster]

Dividing by zero.

Hah.

Eat it.

Prove it. You can't get away with just saying things. Back them up with logic.

If you divide by zero, the result is always undefined. If you have a perfectly vertical line, the gradient is undefined, due to achieving the gradient revolving around dividing by zero. There is no feasible way to determine the result of dividing by zero. It is always undefined.

 

[Zacharine]

I do concede but wouldn't just changing be easier and more cost effective?

Yes. But since language is simply a codified manner to exchange and transmit concepts, redefining words feels too much like sidestepping the problem instead of countering it.

But you are correct, if it were actually to be done, changing definitions would be the easier way.

 

[Blueruler182]

Um... adding things that don't exist into the equation don't seem all that fair. What kind of magic? If I used the Boxes of Orden from Sword of Truth I could be god. If I was Dr. Strange I could do a fair amount.

As far as reality goes, there's a lot that isn't possible. For instance, I can't shrink. I can't alter reality. I can't get a girlfrie... Never mind. You get my point.

 

[crudus]

Dividing by zero.

Hah.

Eat it.

Prove it. You can't get away with just saying things. Back them up with logic.

If you divide by zero, the result is always undefined. If you have a perfectly vertical line, the gradient is undefined, due to achieving the gradient revolving around dividing by zero. There is no feasible way to determine the result of dividing by zero. It is always undefined.

All you have done is just say "dividing by zero is undefined" which was your premise and you are using it as your evidence and conclusion.

 

[Aggressor and Usurper]

I believe in magic. So, yes. Hopefully in my lifetime magic will be discovered to be real. :/

 

[Shankity Stick]

But relatively, by breaking this dimensions laws in a different dimension, the law is still broken, just under different standards.

No it isn't because (as far as I know) we only have laws for the observable universe. Can you observe another universe? If yes, call anyone you like because you have a job there. If no, then our laws do not pertain to it and thus cannot be broken there. Hence my analogy with the age of consent law applies. Illinois can't yell of me for sleeping with my 16 year old girlfriend if I do it in Indiana(well the citizens can but the law is very powerless to stop me).

You are right. We can't see other dimensions...yet. For all we know there is a machine in development right now that allows us to see said dimension, allowing us to see our laws being broken. Also, your hypothetical about your girlfriend is bad because you CAN f**k her in Illinois, you would just be punished.

 

[Shadowfaze]

It depends. Thats all i can say.

 

[zidine100]

But if anythings possibe

wouldnt that mean that it would be possible that something is impossible, and cue infinate loop.

Dividing by zero.

Hah.

Eat it.

But tell me what is the true value of 0, it is only undefined because we have yet to assigned a value to 0, hence when humans either discover or create a value to assign to 0, then it will be possible.

Or.... my cheap way out, (in progaming, or mathematical formula) create a new variable called zero and assign a value to it, therefore you are technically able to divide by zero.

 

[Zacharine]

And yet another impossibility:

It is impossible to prove that logic does not work.

Because how would you go about proving that, without using logic in the process?

 

[Shankity Stick]

Dividing by zero.

Hah.

Eat it.

Prove it. You can't get away with just saying things. Back them up with logic.

If you divide by zero, the result is always undefined. If you have a perfectly vertical line, the gradient is undefined, due to achieving the gradient revolving around dividing by zero. There is no feasible way to determine the result of dividing by zero. It is always undefined.

All you have done is just say "dividing by zero is undefined" which was your premise and you are using it as your evidence and conclusion.

Also, just because the answer is undefined (by our standards) doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We just don't know what it is.

 

[JenXXXJen]

While I'm generally a "never say never" person, the cynic in me says you can't make 2+2=5 :/

 

[Commissar Sae]

Everything is possible, but some things are infinitely improbable.

 

[Shankity Stick]

And yet another impossibility:

It is impossible to prove that logic does not work.

Because how would you go about proving that, without using logic in the process?

MAGIC. Magic makes anything possible; I just haven't been using it as evidence yet. From now on, magic is my answer, because there is no possible way to disprove it.

 

[laggyteabag]

Reading the bible without feeling the slightest bored, now thats impossible...

 

[Zacharine]

And yet another impossibility:

It is impossible to prove that logic does not work.

Because how would you go about proving that, without using logic in the process?

MAGIC. Magic makes anything possible; I just haven't been using it as evidence yet. From now on, magic is my answer, because there is no possible way to disprove it.

How would magic disprove logic?

Because when you make the step "magic makes anything possible, therefore anything can happen" you have used logic.

Thereby proving logic.