Poll: Is Diablo 3's no offline play feature really a dealbreaker?

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Torrasque

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Absolutely not. Anywhere I am gaming, I will have an internet connection. In this day and age, thats really not too hard to have.
Besides that, you can still play single player online, so I don't get why people are complaining that Diablo's single player has been killed, nerfed, etc.
As the communication's guy said, the benefits of being online are huge, and I agree.
That being said, I don't get why they couldn't keep an offline mode, but its nbd.
If you are playing offline D3, you are only getting a tiny amount out of D3; lack of multiplayer, item base, commucation, etc.
Its exactly like complaining you can't play WoW offline.

Edit: Diablo 2 offline was still Diablo 2, but it really sucked. I mean, if you were a hardcore (not the mode) player, and you wanted to beat the game yourself, then by all means go ahead. I did it online, then joined with others in multiplayer to get through nightmare and hell. That shit was really really fucking hard to do by yourself.
As a guy who played hardcore (the game mode) for over 2 years, I can tell you that trying to play hardcore--the most fun I have had in Diablo 2--offline, is fucking suicide.

Seems the only people complaining about this, are the people with shitty internet.
Sooo... Complain about that, not D3.
 

alittlepepper

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Were I interested in the game at all, yes, it would be a dealbreaker for me. This kind of thing is taking gaming as a whole in a totally wrong direction in my opinion, and I do not feel I should not have access to something I have already paid for, especially if I can't mod it and play around with it to get fun out of it.
I will never buy a game with Always-On DRM included in it, no matter how much I want it or have enjoyed the series to date. I refuse to support companies that do so.
On the same tone, however, I also will never pirate those games, since I believe it is wrong to steal.
 

One of Many

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Blizzard has pulled a few dick moves but I wont let that stop me from getting some Diablo goodness.
 

Davey Woo

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The fact is, most of the people that found out about the fact that you have to have online to play it, found out about it ON THE INTERNET. So I really don't see how they can be complaining, because it won't make any difference to the game.
 

Torrasque

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I'm sorry, but anyone saying "yes" never played D2. If they say so otherwise, then they are just lying. I cannot possibly understand how anyone who played D2 could have ANY problem with the online only game.

Let's break it down like this. So you had "closed battle.net," which as your online-only mode in D2. This is where a VAST majority of players exclusively spent their time. If your internet went down or you didn't have internet for some reason or another, you weren't going to be able to play your characters. Sure, you had single player mode, but honestly, what is the point of that? You'd have to start a totally new character, and you'd never end up playing it again once you got your internet back. Yes, you had the option, but you never used it, nor did you need to, since you had no reason to invest any time in it.

And then there was "open battle.net," which is where you could take your single player characters online. But this was full of hackers and other unsavory characters because it was not moderated and did not have as many anti-cheat guards in place. So, if you wanted to play online, then you would only use closed b.net, thus you would fall under the category of the above. Fuck, even if you wanted to play by yourself, it was smarter to have a toon on closed b.net and play in a passworded server, since it would give you the OPTION to play online in a better enviroment.

Face it: there was literally no reason for single player to exist in D2. People are just looking for a reason to *****, or are too busy getting caught up in controversy to see logically. Do I like the AH? Yes and no. I have some problems and concerns about it, like everyone else, but I am not prematurely judging it. But the online only mode just seems like a natural decision to me.

The7Sins said:
You sir have put it best on why I will not get Diablo 3. The auction house was bad enough. No offline single player destroyed any hope of me getting it. Hell I a few months back was forced to get a new computer. I had been waiting for Diablo 3 in order to get my Diablo fix. Guess now I'll just install 2 and play that for my fix for now on. Diablo 3 is a travesty I shall not partake in.
That makes zero sense, sorry. Since your characters are stored locally in single player, so there are plenty (if not more) ways to lose them. Unless you remembered to back up your characters and somehow kept that backup for five years, or just left D2 installed on your computer and NEVER EVER got another computer for five years, nor had to ever reinstall your OS or wipe your drive, then sure, you are right. But I don't see the probability of either of those being very high. I think you are just trying to find reasons to get in the "bandwagon of hate," dare I say. Hey... what not? Activision is cool to hate, thus Blizzard is cool to hate as well.
Said what I said, but better. Thank you :)
People need to stop being babies.
 

elStoopio

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For me its an immediate deal breaker; I work at sea most of the year and as such no stable internet connection. Same as the other 1.8 million people (approximately) in the same sector. Its a real shame as well as it does look like a great single player game.
 

Maclennan

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I don't buy games that require full time internet connections, same reason i don't buy DLC since i got screwed over on oblivion.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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DustyDrB said:
Why are people so upset that some will not buy the game based on features they don't want to support?

Gaming's future is shaped in large part by the consumers. That whole "vote with your wallet" saying isn't just a cliche, it's a truth. If you don't like a certain practice, then don't support it. If the practice is unprofitable, then it won't continue. Is the principle that important? Yes, it is.
This. How else are people supposed to send a message? And why do you care about why people won't buy a game? You are buying it, aren't you? Isn't that all that matters? I refuse to buy any game with always on DRM. So I'm not getting this.
 

seraphy

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It would be nice if 2/3 of customers everywhere would choose to not buy this game because of this, would send nice message for Blizzard to stop being stupid and indeed it might even change things.

Won't happen of course, but it would be nice.
 

w00tage

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Fishyash said:
Twilight_guy said:
Honestly if you played D2 alone then you're just chopping off your leg to prove you can to an empty room. (There really isn't a reason to play online unless you don't have an internet connection). The debate of weather online connection expectations are outpacing the actual spread of the internet is an issue for people to debate on another topic though. (on a side note, I think torchlight was crippled by a lack of online and D3 will also be crippled if not played online).
That's a matter of opinion. Multiplayer on D2 had drawbacks that didn't apply on single player like:

Lag (it was horrendous during d2, and it's still going to be there, although not as badly, for d3)
An online gaming community which is awful (just like any other online game)
Hackers
PK griefing (TPPKing on hardcore mode especially)
Questing problems (You cannot complete this quest in this game. You must join another game or make your own)
And probably more that I can't think of right now.

And just because some of these won't apply to diablo 3, I am SURE that there will be other problems to replace them.

Some people don't mind that and prefer online multiplayer. But some people don't like these things so they prefer single player.

Me personally, I could never play diablo 2 online unless I was doing it with my brother or friends.
^^ me too. The online community wasn't worth playing with, so I played offline or with a couple of friends.
 

Feylynn

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No issue, I'm going to walk into the store on launch with 4 other friends and we're going to buy 5 copies and dedicate the year to it.
Hell maybe the cash auction can pay for my World of Warcraft account, that sounds like a decent plan to me.
 

SixWingedAsura

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Stall said:
I'm sorry, but anyone saying "yes" never played D2. If they say so otherwise, then they are just lying. I cannot possibly understand how anyone who played D2 could have ANY problem with the online only game.
Well, well, well, aren't WE arrogant? I've been playing D2 for years and I played on battle.net ONCE. I hated it. LAN was okay, but even that was just on occasion. Just because YOU love online and a few other vocal defenders doesn't mean everyone played online. To illuminate that ignorant attitude of yours, quite a few people played single-player only and their opinion is just as valid as yours.

Stall said:
Let's break it down like this. So you had "closed battle.net," which as your online-only mode in D2. This is where a VAST majority of players exclusively spent their time. If your internet went down or you didn't have internet for some reason or another, you weren't going to be able to play your characters. Sure, you had single player mode, but honestly, what is the point of that? You'd have to start a totally new character, and you'd never end up playing it again once you got your internet back. Yes, you had the option, but you never used it, nor did you need to, since you had no reason to invest any time in it.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, I refer to my first statement. I hate how you online elitists think that just because YOU play online, suddenly everyone has to play online or they're stupid, or missing out on the game, or whatever other bullsh*t reason you've come up with. Everyone I knew who played D2 played offline. The only time an internet connection was involved was the few times we played LAN. THAT WAS IT. VAST majority of players my a**.

Stall said:
And then there was "open battle.net," which is where you could take your single player characters online. But this was full of hackers and other unsavory characters because it was not moderated and did not have as many anti-cheat guards in place. So, if you wanted to play online, then you would only use closed b.net, thus you would fall under the category of the above. Fuck, even if you wanted to play by yourself, it was smarter to have a toon on closed b.net and play in a passworded server, since it would give you the OPTION to play online in a better enviroment.
Why would I want to take my SINGLE-PLAYER character ONLINE? That makes no sense.

Stall said:
Face it: there was literally no reason for single player to exist in D2. People are just looking for a reason to *****, or are too busy getting caught up in controversy to see logically. Do I like the AH? Yes and no. I have some problems and concerns about it, like everyone else, but I am not prematurely judging it. But the online only mode just seems like a natural decision to me.
No reason for single player to exist? I'm sorry, were you the ONLY person playing Diablo 2 at that time? No? Then don't be so arrogant and stuck-up to assume you speak for everyone. There are thousands and thousands of people who played offline most of the time. And online being a "natural decision?" What's so "natural" about it? Is the logical choice in future games taking away from the options of the players? Is the "natural" choice for future games shoving more and more ways to spend money in the consumer's face against their will? If that's the case, I've lost all hope for games, gamers and developers.


Stall said:
That makes zero sense, sorry. Since your characters are stored locally in single player, so there are plenty (if not more) ways to lose them. Unless you remembered to back up your characters and somehow kept that backup for five years, or just left D2 installed on your computer and NEVER EVER got another computer for five years, nor had to ever reinstall your OS or wipe your drive, then sure, you are right. But I don't see the probability of either of those being very high. I think you are just trying to find reasons to get in the "bandwagon of hate," dare I say. Hey... what not? Activision is cool to hate, thus Blizzard is cool to hate as well.
Um, there's a LOT of games that are easy to lose files for characters with. Not that many people had problems with it. We've gotten lazy and complacent and want everyone to hold onto our characters for us. And I don't WANT to hate Blizzard. I used to LOVE Blizzard. When D2 was out, they were right there up with the top gaming companies I loved for creating such a masterpiece of a game, and now, ever since WoW, they've been making worse and worse decisions.

But hey, what do I know?

I played single player. *roll-eyes*
 

Twilight_guy

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Fishyash said:
Twilight_guy said:
Honestly if you played D2 alone then you're just chopping off your leg to prove you can to an empty room. (There really isn't a reason to play online unless you don't have an internet connection). The debate of weather online connection expectations are outpacing the actual spread of the internet is an issue for people to debate on another topic though. (on a side note, I think torchlight was crippled by a lack of online and D3 will also be crippled if not played online).
That's a matter of opinion. Multiplayer on D2 had drawbacks that didn't apply on single player like:

Lag (it was horrendous during d2, and it's still going to be there, although not as badly, for d3)
An online gaming community which is awful (just like any other online game)
Hackers
PK griefing (TPPKing on hardcore mode especially)
Questing problems (You cannot complete this quest in this game. You must join another game or make your own)
And probably more that I can't think of right now.

And just because some of these won't apply to diablo 3, I am SURE that there will be other problems to replace them.

Some people don't mind that and prefer online multiplayer. But some people don't like these things so they prefer single player.

Me personally, I could never play diablo 2 online unless I was doing it with my brother or friends.
If you set the settings of your game so there was only one player then most of those problems don't apply. Lag could potentially be an issue some times, I guess. I still think dungeon crawling loot games like Diablo are better with friends though. They seem so empty alone.
 

Twilight_guy

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starhaven said:
Twilight_guy said:
Honestly if you played D2 alone then you're just chopping off your leg to prove you can to an empty room. (There really isn't a reason to play online unless you don't have an internet connection). The debate of weather online connection expectations are outpacing the actual spread of the internet is an issue for people to debate on another topic though. (on a side note, I think torchlight was crippled by a lack of online and D3 will also be crippled if not played online).
my mother is in her late 40's never played online has always played the diablo games likely has more hours in it than me now has to play online and she doest want to.
to say it will be crippled if it includeds a single player is foolish.
not everyone has decent internet not everyone can afford it and some who can dont want to play with dumb ass's who run around with pick up scrips stealing all the decent stuff, greifing and as anyone who has played diablo 2 online the spam bots and dont think that diablo 3 will be free of these things it wont take them long to beat the coding.

people should have the choice
I didn't say not to include a singleplayer, I said that I find single player not as good as multiplayer in D2. I think its great that your mother enjoys playing games but I don't think that's relevant to this argument. It'd be nice if every game gave people the option to play single or multiplayer but I can understand why Blizzard might have ignored singleplayer for this particular game. (they should have seen the inevitable shitstorm that resulted coming though because of the brouhaha with Ubisoft and there DRM and the smaller reaction to Starcraft 2 earlier).
 

LetalisK

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I didn't care too much about Diablo 3, but I still had some interest. Now it's gone and I don't think I'll bother with the game.
 

krazykidd

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viranimus said:
Absolutely a deal breaker. Really doesnt matter if everyone has an internet connection or not I do not approve of this. I feel its the wrong direction for gaming. I feel it hurts the industry out of sheer unadulterated ignorance and I will vote as such by keeping my wallet shut.
This is bassically my opinion, i don't support this thus i shall not support this game which is a pity since i really wanted this game. Although i know me not buying it wont change anything , i will be able to sleep better at night. To paraphrase what jack sparrows dad said : its not enough just to survive , its about living with yourself.