Poll: Is it rude to tell people "please don't talk to me"?

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Patathatapon said:
I'm an antisocial twit who despises people talking to me, but saying "Please don't talk to me" is always a social faux pas. It is very easily considered rude, because no matter how I imagine it said it either sounds rude or bipolar. This is exactly something that my younger brother with Asperger's syndrome says to people he doesn't want to talk to as well.

That said, I'm fully supporting you saying that to people. I'm even more rude and just barely listen and don't respond with anything more than a "hmm".

So be as rude as you want, fuck those polite people!
Yeah, that was kind of the point I was making too. Society dictates what is and is not polite. The individual gets to decide whether or not they give a fuck.

On an unrelated note, typing with a finger you you just got slammed in a steel door is less than pleasant.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
You want to know what's childish? Being too afraid to say what's on your mind. Having to lie and pussyfoot around things because some random tom, dick or harry may or may not be able to cope with the fact that the random stranger who you may or may not ever see again doesn't feel like speaking to them.
If you actually felt this way your response would be:

"Im afraid and intimidated by social interaction".

But its not. So you dont REALLY. I believe in absolute honestly and socially acceptable lies, and to be honest so does everyone else regardless of what they say because both no one can survive telling the truth to no one but on the flipside everyone's a liar by omission and thats fine.

I can cope with a stranger not wanting to talk to me, its the total lack of tact displayed by voicing it in such an unkind and brutal way. It demonstrates a complete lack of empathy in shutting them down so forcefully. Theres nothing wrong with not wanting to talk to people, but theres nothing wrong with wanting a little light conversation either and punishing them for even trying by responding so rudely is sort of a douche move IMO.

Bat Vader said:
You both seem to have this totally fucked up idea of what conversation and social interaction are about. I talk with strangers not because I consider myself important and i just HAVE to tell them about myself, on the contrary its because I consider any random stranger AS important as myself and i want to know about them and interact with THEM specifically. Their lives and views are fascinating and interesting to me. Learning about someone else or sharing a joke about something that just happened is a tiny spark of common humanity that can make a lonely person feel infinitely better. Considering my job which I mentioned earlier I think i know better than most the power and importance of a bit of basic human interaction. You dont have to enjoy that, but being a good person means not hurting the feelings of those who do if you can so easily avoid it by saying something tactful like "Im sorry I'm really not in the mood for a conversation right now, hope youre doing well though" or if you like honesty as much as you say "I hate social interaction and talking. I am not Sorry".

That said I'm fairly adept with social cues so I'll only approach others with good reason if i read they fancy a chat, or something just happened thats worthy of conversation or I desperately need something like im lost or i need the time urgently.

I know an Altruist trying to explain this to a Misanthrope is slightly pointless but at least try and understand that someone trying to make conversation with you isnt some vicious egotistical vile piece of shit desperate to force themselves into your life. They are just another goddam person just like you and they want at the moment to share something with you. Emphasis on SHARE, as in YOU give as much as they do. Not to say these people i described dont exist and dont deserve a firm fuckoff, i just wouldnt assume EVERYONE is one without good reason.

My advice is always interpret others actions in the best light if you have no other evidence.
 

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ACWells said:
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I want everyone who is saying the OP is in the wrong or rude to answer me a question. Why is it ok for someone to try and force a conversation onto someone else but it isn't ok for someone to not want to have said conversation?
What do you mean by force? Because if walking up and just talking to someone is force it's sounding like all but mandated conversations are being forced.

It can be rude to keep going if it doesn't look like they want to talk, but it's a bit much to consider all initiation of conversation that isn't necessary rude
It just seems rude to bother someone for no other reason than just to have a conversation. Instead of just respecting the person's free time and space they instead barge in and are basically telling the person they don't respect their time and instead want the person to pay attention to them instead.

If what the OP does is considered rude I consider bothering others for conversations just as rude.
How are they supposed to know the other doesn't wish to talk without talking to them?

By your metric all unnecessary conversations are rude and that's just ridiculous. Consider it rude all you want, that sounds more like you're doing it because you don't like having to give a polite response to not be rude versus genuinely having a reason for why it would be.
So it's a double standard. I don't give any response at all. If someone comes up to me and just starts up a conversation while I am out and keeping to myself I just walk away. If they aren't going to respect my time I'm sure as shit not going to respect their time. If the person asks if they can speak to me that is a much different situation. 90% of the time I am not interested in dealing with other people but I will give them a polite reason as to why I am not interested in having a conversation.

To answer your question they could ask if they could talk to the person first.
Respect it with what? Mind reading powers? All you need to do is give a reason not to talk. They're rude if they don't respect that. Expecting them not to even approach is just nonsense.

Or they could just be told why said person can't speak when they try and talk. I'm not sure what social interactions are like where you live but for regular conversation "May I speak with you" isn't normal and sounds like you're trying to sell them something or preach at them.
You get a lot of angry pushback from people who are, to put it kindly... atypical. It's painful and tiring to be... atypical, and some such people are ALSO jerks in addition to their... atypical natures. They don't want to accept that their actions are rude, they'd rather redefine what rudeness is. It's an understandable reaction that we should all ignore without slamming them for it, since they're already in a bad place.
If you're going to call me a jerk how about you say it to me directly instead of quoting someone else that quoted me. Don't try to BS me by saying it wasn't directed at me because if it wasn't you wouldn't have quoted the guy that specifically quoted me.

I accept that my actions are rude. Caring that my actions are rude is something else entirely. I couldn't care any less about redefining anything. I'm not in a bad place either. I love the place that I am in. I'm not entitled either. Growing up with a painful disability and being bullied and pitied for it taught me real quick how unforgiving and cruel the world is. It's why I can't stand entitled people.

Anything you tried to specifically project onto me there in your two posts are incredibly wrong.
 

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It's a little odd, yeah. Most people expect that if they strike up a conversation with someone who's not currently busy with something, and this person won't suddenly request they not talk to them. Most people would normally humor the guy and give a bare minimum of replies if they're not really that keen to talk to them. For someone who's not doing anything to straight-up deny any conversation then go back to doing nothing really gives the impression that this person is some kind of social recluse who's terrified of human interaction.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
Padwolf said:
Well yes, it is pretty damn rude. It doesn't take much to say "Sorry, I don't really want to talk to anyone at the moment." Or you could have earphones in, pretend to make a phone call. There are many polite ways to avoid conversation. You don't have to be rude. Being polite doesn't cost a thing.
Yeah i kinda get it. I made this thread because i really didn't think it was rude to be honest. Blunt sure but i did think the "please" cancelled out the rudeness. Guess i was wrong.

Just a question those. Why isn't it considered rude to bother a stranger with small talk?
It can be. There are polite and impolite ways to bother a stranger with small talk. From the sound of it, you haven't seen the impolite ways. The impolite way typically involves shouting, swearing, insisting on trying to force someone to get drunk or making inappropriate conversation with them, harassing them, after they've indicated that they're not interested. And typically people know that they're crossing a line. For all we know, the old lady in your example had Dementia, and was quite lost. You might have had a chance to be a hero there, and you were more afraid of listening to an old lady than actually being the best person you could be. There are appropriate and inappropriate things to say to strangers, and degrees of conversation. It's not usually a great deal of investment even if you humour their request, because most people don't have that much to say to a stranger, and most people who avoid conversation tend to be rubbish conversationalists anyway.

Most of us can spare a moment or two with a stranger for a sentence or two of interaction. In fact, it is good for you, and one day down the line, I KNOW, that you will regret avoiding how to learn how human beings socialise.
visiblenoise said:
I'm pretty sure exactly nobody is saying that it isn't okay to not want to speak to strangers, or convey such a feeling to said strangers (at least on occasion). All they're (and I'm) saying is that "please don't talk to me" isn't any more polite or tactful than saying "shut up."
So can i just say "shut up" instead? If it's equally as rude (apparently).
I don't agree about the degree of rudeness, but are you seriously not comprehending this? People have been spelling it out to you. You say you don't want to be rude, but you insist on a response which is rude, and respond with snark in defense of it? Why not just say shut up indeed, it's not like you care what they think, and it's not like you care what is and is not rude. I mean, here you're arguing for being just as rude as you were initially. So don't repeat the line that your goal isn't to be rude. If it's equally rude to say shut up or your little catchphrase (It isn't, but they're both rude, just on different levels), then you shouldn't be arguing for saying either, you should be looking for an alternative. You are literally arguing for rudeness here. This isn't necessarily a disagreement on points here, just the rationale. It's a logical inconsistency.

It isn't hard to brush someone off politely. You've been told how to tell a white lie by myself and others, you've been told how to be truly honest by @BiscuitTrouser, should you have the fortitude. That post is really good. People should read it. Better yet, you can humour them. I doubt you have anywhere more important to be. You can disengage at any time, and you pick the level of investment. You might learn a thing or two, or at least gain an appreciation for the humanity of others.

You're presenting a very good case for why you should interact with a few more of these people, because maybe then you'd be able to answer one or two of your questions about social interaction yourself.
 

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Bat Vader said:
I want everyone who is saying the OP is in the wrong or rude to answer me a question. Why is it ok for someone to try and force a conversation onto someone else but it isn't ok for someone to not want to have said conversation?
Because OP is being rude. He's literally ignoring the content of what they say, or any potential reason they could be talking to him with "Please don't talk to me", and the way in which OP describes using this phrase merits concern. The specifics of having an "anti conversation phrase" and considering shutting down the interaction "mission accomplished" should raise an eyebrow, it's not socially well adjusted behaviour, and not recognising the rudeness adds to that sense. Which has led to numerous aspersions on their maturity, because this is a textbook immature thing to say. It's the sort of thing I'd do when I was between the ages of 13 and 17 and was terribly socially adjusted.

And part of this concern is for the OP as well, because it turns out that this perspective on conversation is great for leaving one truly lonely, which is a great risk factor for all sorts of shit, but also because it stunts one's emotional and social development, and can prevent one from finding success in employment, maintaining friendships and relationships, and generally doing the things an adult needs to do to get by. Again, I have done this. I have been this, I have seen this, and if I had the chance, I'd go back in time and smack my younger self in the face. For me, it was a response to how I was treated. I was regularly the target of bullying, by pretty much everyone, so I went, fuck it, I'm out. Not an experience uncommon around these parts I'm sure. There were people I wanted to talk to, people I liked romantically, people I thought were interesting or cool, but I never learned how to make myself interesting to them, because I closed myself off to everybody and hid behind my books and schoolwork. I decided that if society was going to bully me, then I wasn't going to engage with it. But the truth is, not everyone was going to pick on me, some could of been, and some became, good friends, and that is important to have, but more importantly, making friends is a skill every adult requires. And, to be blunt, your lack of social skills makes you a target. Your old friends leave, they die, and they get sick of your misanthropic crazy bullshit and stop replying to your messages (Some habits are hard to break). Every social interaction is that chance to improve yourself. I told myself I was an introvert, a sociopath, autism spectrum (And fuck, I may be, but I'm crazy enough without asking for a diagnosis for that), or that I just didn't like people. My role-models were House, and other assholes who thought they were the smartest person in the room, and treated everyone with disrespect. Ironically, had I been smarter, I'd see exactly how this sort of character was designed to appeal to me, by refusing to criticize my refusal to develop myself and be a decent human being, and instead tolerate my shittiness, and say that people will still need you, because you're just that smart. That's why you suck at social things. Because smart. You don't have time for that. For a long time I was the smartest person in the room, then I was the second smartest person in the room, and didn't that just burst my smug little bubble. Worse, the prick was friendly, he was well adjusted. The fucker was nice. And he wanted to be friends with me, and I just wanted to hate him for beating me. I never realised I was the bad guy. I never realised that I now wanted to mistreat people and dislike people, the very thing that had hurt me to begin with. I could have actually been smart, and teamed up with him and got smarter together, but I was too busy pretending I was Sherlock before Benedict Cumberbatch began convincing people that a lack of ability to read basic social cues, and refusal to consider others was either sexy or intelligent. I was lying. I was lying to myself, and for all my supposed smarts, I couldn't pick up on it. I was afraid. I was afraid of what people would do to me, I was afraid of what they had already done. I'd been beaten, assaulted, sexually harassed, ostracised, teased, mocked, the rumour mills, the fucking works. Had I had more friends, had I developed, I might have escaped a lot of that. I did not. The people who mistreated me took that away from me. They took away that development, that adjustment, those years of social interaction. One of them recently got back in contact with me to apologise. They can go to hell. They took a lot there. When I finally realised I actually needed people, that I wanted to go to parties, to have LANs, to talk about videogames with, to drink, to fall in love, to date, to talk to people, I realised I actually needed some of those skills, and I had to teach myself the basics. That was a lot of trial and error, and a lot of failure. And, oddly enough, a lot of trying to say nice things to strangers, or start brief miniature conversations. I'm still not there yet. I'll never be the most charismatic, I'll always feel awkward, but now I can honestly say that I can be a leader, I can talk to a stranger if I have to, that I can ask for help, or try to make new friends. I had to overcome what was really fear of social interaction, of others.

You can say you don't care about other people, their conversation, their opinion, their souls, whatever. If that's really the case, then why do you answer at all? Why would you give a fuck if you're rude? I'll tell you what, as I've said before in this thread: I am often rude. I am a rude person. I am being rude here and now. All of my responses have been rude, and that's in part because I recognise this pattern of behaviour. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't care about being rude. If you really didn't care about conversation, you'd feel no impetus to reply, and you'd have no problem with people considering you rude. If you truly dislike social interaction, people, society, then why would you care which side of the social contract you fall on, how your behaviour is held? What does it matter if they think you rude, you're never going to talk to them, their opinion will never effect you, because of how you choose to cut yourself off. It is typically dishonest, and hiding, and it will likely make your life harder, whilst being just unfortunate for any old ladies with the misfortune to encounter you.

If the people who actually talk to each other, and make idle conversation, the supposed "Extroverts", are the one's engaging in social interaction, then it is their attributes that govern rude. Those who refuse to interact will always be rude, because while you can consider the people starting conversations rude on your own, you actually need to interact as part of the social organism to have any sort of group consensus of rude.

And I know this won't sink in, because I've had this conversation with my younger brother, and my friend's older brother. They've essentially stopped bathing, washing clothes, and live in squalors, because outside of one or two drug addicted losers they play MOBAs with, they have no friends. I'm terrified that my younger brother will encounter drugs, because he's perfectly set to become isolated like that. Eventually, when people they know stop hanging out with them, because they don't brush their teeth, which are yellowing, and their hair is a different shade from grease, and they smell, they grow more miserable. My friend's brother is almost 30 and he's moved back into his parents basement. He has almost no friends that aren't his brothers, and apart from me, most of those have fallen away. I haven't seen him in almost a year, because he's almost never out and about. He's depressed, and desperate for a romantic partner, but he's incapable of understanding that it's his lack of social skills and hygiene that prevent this. And I know that everyone will find a reason to say that they're not like that, that they're the exception. If that's really the case, then it's possible that you may need psychological help, if you really think that you cannot socially interact, or that you don't need others. They can help you find techniques to feel less put upon by the old ladies of the world.

But to answer your question more specifically: Starting up a conversation is an imposition on someone. Whether it's rude or not depends on how you do it. The bogan woman who wanted free pizza from me tonight initiated conversation by asking "Hey, you, give me a free pizza". So she got a rude reply "Not until you get me a pack of smokes". And the mildness of the rudeness was only because I was working. She knew that shouting at a minimum wage employee who wasn't free to call her a fuckhead, waste of space derro **** was inappropriate and impolite, she did it because of that. She's a cowardly bully, a waste of space. A rude, unpleasant individual. The lady who explained that she took a while getting to the door because her legs fell asleep? We had a lovely conversation about bad circulation and how much of a nuisance it is. Took about 30 seconds on my delivery, put a smile on her face, and let me know that I'd reached out and touched another person in some small way. This is what is truly meant by appreciating the little things.

You can be impolite starting up a conversation, and you can be polite declining one. You just need to show respect and consideration for another person, and understand basic social cues. But I really would suggest actually engaging with it, because either way, it's probably going to be gone in a minute. It really doesn't take up much of your time, and it does have tangible benefits. You can walk away at any time.

There are polite ways to disengage from conversation, be it complete honesty as BiscuitTrouser suggests, white lies, or actually having something that you need to do. If you politely disengage, and someone persists, they can be being rude. But again, it depends on what they're doing, what their aim is. The way you and OP talk, it's as if you're thinking that it's only the "extroverts" (And I hate this label, and the converse is equally dreadful. The most common, and least useful self-diagnosis floating around, bar, "I am a wolf trapped inside a boy's body", is "I am an introvert" and here is a meme I found on how to "care for me" etc.) who need conversation. I'm not great socially, and I often desire human company and conversation. It takes a bit to screw up the courage to talk to a stranger, or ask for help when I need it. For all you know, it's someone who actually has a serious problem they need help with, or it's some anxious, lonely soul like most of us, trying to make a fleeting human contact to remind ourselves that we're not entirely alone. It's not about making things about you, often it's about them. Some of the people I have the greatest respect and appreciation for started conversations with me, and that was because they saw something in me. Whether it was good, or bad, whether they wanted to get to know me or help me, they saw something, and expressed and interest, and sometimes, you do need it. People don't only talk to you because they want to share how great they are. These people are boors. They are rude. People often do it because they suspect you may be great, and they want to experience that. Or that they think you might not be feeling your best, and that you might need some help.
 

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Bat Vader said:
I want everyone who is saying the OP is in the wrong or rude to answer me a question. Why is it ok for someone to try and force a conversation onto someone else but it isn't ok for someone to not want to have said conversation?
That's a good question. How many people know it's rude to just start babbling off to random strangers?
 

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Psh, when you don't wanna talk, you don't wanna talk. Whatever you need to do or say to communicate that, go for it, even if it's rude.

I wouldn't personally stick the phrase you used into the "rude" category, but I know plenty of other people would stick ~any~ sort of premature disengagement from a conversation into the "rude" category, so... I'm gonna be 100% unhelpful and say "it depends on who you're talking to I think sort of maybe."

I'm also personally unfond of lying or making excuses to get out of conversations before they start, but they're certainly effective if you'd like to take a shot at pretending you're listening to music or somethin'. Whatever works~! And best wishes to you :<
 

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Lufia Erim said:
I have a problem . Well more than one but we'll just focus on the one for now. People like to talk to me . For god knows what reason strangers will start talking to me. Now i don't like strangers, hell i don't like people in general. But up until a little while ago I've humored most of them. But for some time i usually just say "please don't speak to me". Which works exceptionslly well.

That being said,today an elderly lady tried to talk to me about something and i replied with my anti conversation phrase. She then mumbled something about me being rude and went on her way. Mission accomplished.

However it made me wonder. Is it truly rude to ask someone not to speak to you? Or was this lady just being overly sensitive?


I did say please and didn't give any kind of attitude other than neutral i don't really care vibe.
What a messed up world we live in where it can be up for debate whether what you said is rude. Of course it is!!!!!

How hard is it to put yourself in the person on the receiving end of your phrase? How could you not understand that there is a very good chance you are hurting someone's feelings every time you say it?

I am baffled that you needed four pages of discussion on a forum for you to understand this!

Please learn some basic human empathy.
 

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To an extent it is rude, but I also understand your dilemma. People probably approach you for a chat because either you live in an area where that is the norm- just chatting with people. Or you have a default disposition, posture, or wear that gives people the impression that your a chatty kind of person.

I would say that perhaps you want to work on the latter if the former (moving to another area.) isn't much of an option.

It's also posssible to let someone down easy. Now I can't really tell if you were being rude or not seeing as how you didn't really quote word for word what you actually said. But something general like "I'm sorry I'm really not feeling it today" or any bs excuse to explain why you aren't on a talking mood could suffice.

Some people will get hurt by it, but unless they think the universe centers around them they should understand.
 

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I recently employed telling people to "Fuck off" if my initial indication that I am not interested in social interaction isn't noticed.

While the OP is technically being "rude"... being "rude" isn't universally a bad thing.

"I wish to have a conversation with you."
"I do not wish to have a conversation with you."

If the latter is rude then too bad, because any other outcome is the disinterested party being forced into something they do not wish to participate in AND have no obligation to participate in.

It's sad how it's considered rude to engage in a neutral, yet blunt, response.

It implies the instigator is entitled to your very reason why you don't want to speak with them.

When in reality, they're not entitled to shit.
 

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Yes. You end up sounding like an arrogant, self important douche. Just make small talk for a while, then make an excuse and leave.
 

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Abomination said:
I recently employed telling people to "Fuck off" if my initial indication that I am not interested in social interaction isn't noticed.

While the OP is technically being "rude"... being "rude" isn't universally a bad thing.

"I wish to have a conversation with you."
"I do not wish to have a conversation with you."

If the latter is rude then too bad, because any other outcome is the disinterested party being forced into something they do not wish to participate in AND have no obligation to participate in.

It's sad how it's considered rude to engage in a neutral, yet blunt, response.

It implies the instigator is entitled to your very reason why you don't want to speak with them.

When in reality, they're not entitled to shit.
That's not neutral. It's agressive and makes it sound like your are trying way too hard to be edgy.

And yes, being rude is a bad thing. There's a reason it has no positive connotations. By all means, say what you want to someone who is rude to you, but trying to initiate conversation is not rude.
 

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That's not neutral. It's agressive and makes it sound like your are trying way too hard to be edgy.

And yes, being rude is a bad thing. There's a reason it has no positive connotations. By all means, say what you want to someone who is rude to you, but trying to initiate conversation is not rude.
Trying to initiate conversation is not being rude, that is correct - and neither is refusing conversation you are not obligated to have.

"I want to talk to you."
"I do not want to talk to you."

Essentially that's the message here. Why is one rude? Neither are.

I imagine the OP uses the phrase "Please don't talk to me" only AFTER they have indicated in some way they aren't interested in conversation. If someone can't pick up on those social cues then too bad, they're gonna have to get the blunt response.

Is it edgy? Far from it. It's blunt. Pretty much the opposite of edgy.

Being aggressive, employing violence, telling lies, hiding the truth, being rude... all have initial negative connotations BUT are not universally bad things.

Especially in this case by most posters' own admission: you should lie as to not offend. In this case, supposedly, lying is not a bad thing.
 

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When you tell someone to stop talking to you, you're telling them to change a behavior of theirs which is acceptable and encouraged in a healthy society. Why the fuck shouldn't you be apologetic about it? You're imposing onto them your own weird aversion to quick and harmless chit chat. It's not like they're pestering you for pocket change.

Furthermore, being rude and/or gratuitously blunt reflects poorly on you more than it hurts the other person's feelings or anything else, and everyone who happens to be watching will pick up on this. But I guess it really doesn't matter to you what other people think if you're so hell-bent on hanging on to your antisocial security blanket. Just don't expect any sympathy.
 

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ACWells said:
Give that a try out there in real life, and see how people react to you. I'd say that standing on principle to be a social outcast is the definition of "edgy". By contrast, so is preaching that principle while not following it.
They react quite positively and my life is better for it. I don't have to suffer fools and so I refuse to.

The only people I offend are those I don't want to talk to.

Not everyone has to like me, which is fine, because I don't like everyone.
 

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Loonyyy said:
I am the exception to the rule. I bathe regularly, I brush my teeth three times a day, use mouthwash, and floss, I have a job that I like with a boss that's cool and respects me. I live at home because I am saving up money to move out on and I am not in a relationship because I am not interested in one. It isn't that I don't need people it's that I don't need a lot of people. When I was younger I used to have many friends and I hated it. They always wanted to go out and do something and whenever I said no they would get mad. I don't like going out and hanging out. That isn't fun to me. What's fun is staying home and playing video games, reading, writing, drawing, etc.

I have very few friends and I like it that way. That way we can all hang out at the same time and I don't need to juggle my time with others. I'm a selfish person. I value my personal free time more than spending time with others which is why when I hang out it needs to be with everyone. That way I can get them all out of the way and the next couple of days just have to myself. I even told them that and they are all fine with it.

99% of the time the conversations I end up walking away from are the ones that that are entirely small talk. I hate small talk. Whenever a stranger starts making small talk with me I get the urge to want to bludgeon them with whatever I am holding in my hands at the current time. I have tried steering those types of conversations to stuff I am more interested in talking about and they almost never take the bait. The ones that do I talk with for a few minutes before getting drained and telling them politely I need to go. I am all for a conversation as long as it's either what I want to speak about or if it actually holds merit.


chocolate pickles said:
Yes. You end up sounding like an arrogant, self important douche. Just make small talk for a while, then make an excuse and leave.
How about skipping the small talk and making an excuse to leave. From what others have said that seems to be just as polite.
 

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ACWells said:
Bat Vader said:
Loonyyy said:
I am the exception to the rule. I bathe regularly, I brush my teeth three times a day, use mouthwash, and floss, I have a job that I like with a boss that's cool and respects me. I live at home because I am saving up money to move out on and I am not in a relationship because I am not interested in one. It isn't that I don't need people it's that I don't need a lot of people. When I was younger I used to have many friends and I hated it. They always wanted to go out and do something and whenever I said no they would get mad. I don't like going out and hanging out. That isn't fun to me. What's fun is staying home and playing video games, reading, writing, drawing, etc.

I have very few friends and I like it that way. That way we can all hang out at the same time and I don't need to juggle my time with others. I'm a selfish person. I value my personal free time more than spending time with others which is why when I hang out it needs to be with everyone. That way I can get them all out of the way and the next couple of days just have to myself. I even told them that and they are all fine with it.

99% of the time the conversations I end up walking away from are the ones that that are entirely small talk. I hate small talk. Whenever a stranger starts making small talk with me I get the urge to want to bludgeon them with whatever I am holding in my hands at the current time. I have tried steering those types of conversations to stuff I am more interested in talking about and they almost never take the bait. The ones that do I talk with for a few minutes before getting drained and telling them politely I need to go. I am all for a conversation as long as it's either what I want to speak about or if it actually holds merit.


chocolate pickles said:
Yes. You end up sounding like an arrogant, self important douche. Just make small talk for a while, then make an excuse and leave.
How about skipping the small talk and making an excuse to leave. From what others have said that seems to be just as polite.
Do you understand that, whether you're choosing this or not, what you're describing would be a nightmare life for most people? Living at home, finding normal social interaction difficult... this sounds awful to me.
That's fine. You don't have to agree with how I live my life just as I don't care how others live theirs. I just find it annoying when people tell me there is something wrong with me or I am wrong for it. I don't tell others how to live theirs so why should I be told how to live mine?
 

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ACWells said:
Abomination said:
ACWells said:
Give that a try out there in real life, and see how people react to you. I'd say that standing on principle to be a social outcast is the definition of "edgy". By contrast, so is preaching that principle while not following it.
They react quite positively and my life is better for it. I don't have to suffer fools and so I refuse to.

The only people I offend are those I don't want to talk to.

Not everyone has to like me, which is fine, because I don't like everyone.
How very iconoclastic, and counterproductive.
Iconoclastic? Just because the majority of people behave in a certain way doesn't mean that way is the "best" way.

Counterproductive? It is the exact opposite of being counterproductive, I get what I want, I get the lifestyle I want, I am happy.

Counterproductive would be me engaging in practices that prevent myself from being happy.