Poll: Is It The Same As Filming Porn

[Bouncing Ferret FIlm]

How is making a video intent on spreading the Gospel anything similar to porn?

when it possibly conflicts with my morals... example. I have gay friends, I don't believe Gays are going to hell, I'm against prop 8 and anti gay bullying (watch "George Takei Calls Out Anti-Gay Arkansas School Board Member" on youtube, sadly do to spammer bastards who have ruined it for all of us, i can't post the video here), So i feel that making a video for a church that helps convince people that gays ARE going to hell and it IS okay to bully them till they commit suicide, IS or COULD BE the same as making pornography.

 

[sms_117b]

Why don't you talk to them about the "aggresivness" of the film, that you would love to help spread the word, but not in an aggressive manor, if they don't agree then they got sticks up their proverbial arses. If they do agree, you get your monies and will be happy with what you do.

 

[itsnotyouitsme]

I'll tell you this the same way i might not tell a little child not to stick a fork in an electrical socket. I'm happy to know that there is religious people who are, at the same time moraled, not stuck up the churches ass. But I fail to see the moral question in filming a hubby and his partner getting it on for the sake of redtube over religious propaganda.
If you get money for filming porn, it's not like you have done anything wrong. I have never heard the argument that the producer is personally in the wrong but rather the thing as a whole. However, smut is smut no matter what it comes out of, If i had to choose between propaganda and porn I'd go with both.
No matter what you say, the difference between a doctor and a lawyer is career only and trying to pretend that your smut is less smutty then the smut made by actual smut is pretentious. I understand your dilemma but when you think about it, your porn flick will reach tops 1,000 people on redtube but no one will seriously remember it, meanwhile your propaganda will reach 1,000 people minimal and will convey this message to the new age: join or die. So, your choices, Join or Die, or a 15 min porno.
(please note, I do not care if your porno is 3 hours long, no one seriously watches a whole porno movie so it might as well be several 15 minute pornos)

 

[Gentile]

How is making a video intent on spreading the Gospel anything similar to porn?

when it possibly conflicts with my morals... example. I have gay friends, I don't believe Gays are going to hell, I'm against prop 8 and anti gay bullying (watch "George Takei Calls Out Anti-Gay Arkansas School Board Member" on youtube, sadly do to spammer bastards who have ruined it for all of us, i can't post the video here), So i feel that making a video for a church that helps convince people that gays ARE going to hell and it IS okay to bully them till they commit suicide, IS or COULD BE the same as making pornography.

Coming from a evangelical Christian, I would say that your relationship with God is certainly supposed to be the most important thing in your own life personally. When it comes to more corporate matters such as making a video explaining to those far away from God, all you should remember is that you're to love others as Jesus loved and cared for them according to the NT scriptures. Jesus never coerced anybody to follow him, he only offered. Plenty of people turned him down. He just moved on. I see no harm in offering the good news to anybody in the world.

Also, more often than not, I've noticed that people who use scare tactics (such as hell) are missing the point of the gospel. You're not doing good because you want to avoid the consequences, you're only doing good when it's in your nature to do so.

 

[Disco110]

I think you asking the wrong question, dont look at it as which one would i feel batter about filming based on morals. base it on which one you will enjoy more to actually film. you say that you dont want to film porn as you dont think that it will be a good use of your artistic telents, but are you going to be able to use more of your talent filming people spreading the word, as i guess the quality of a religious film would be more focussed on the content rather than the quality of the film style, as all the film needs to be is to be watchable rather than particularly aesthetically pleasing.

Whereas, on the other hand, a porn film is all about the visuals, and can be much improved by good shooting and editing. A well shot porn film looks 100 times better than a bad one with the same content. porn doesn't have to be about simple human lusts and urges, but can be an art form just like any other, and i dont know about you, but I would rather watch an amazingly pretty film or well shot short production on nothing particularly important, (which is what proper art is btw), than sit through an infomercial on a subject that goes against my moral standings.

its up to you in the end, but ask yourself which would be better to make from a completely neutral point of view in terms of matirial, and see which one you could make better. (look at how many bad porn films and how many dull infomercials there are in the world that you could do 10 times better)

also, there is always a market for porn, and it probably pays better to

 

[mazeut]

"Aggressively reach out", to me that phrase alone is a big warning sign. It makes me think of those Christian rock bands (or rap), the really bad ones that obviously don't really like the music their playing but thought they could "reach out" with it. I'm sure the guy who does the Chick tracts or whoever puts together those religious, Halloween, scare them straight with abortion footage haunted houses is thinking "reach out" too.

I don't mean to say speaking your mind on religion is bad, I'm saying if you feel cheap doing it then it cheapens your beliefs.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

You could always do Art-Porn, or something.

You know, Plot-plot-plot-fucking-plot-plot-symbolism-plot-fucking-plot-plot-symbolism related fucking-plot-plot-fucking, as the pattern goes. That why it's not just fucking bookended by enough plot to fulfill a fantasy.

If you do do the church thing, maybe try and convince them to make a nice video? You know, "join the church, and be at peace" as compared to "join the church, or burn in hell you heathen bastard".

 

[Popido]

If its artsy film, yes. If "informative" document, then no.

I find it interesting how people with good cause can yet be so evil that they're completely blind to it. Well..ignorance can do that to a person...and fear and denial.

 

[Dyp100]

Don't do ittttt.

You're voiding your beliefs of giving everyone their own opinions.

I don't think it'd ever say this, but...In this case, morals are more important than money.

Though, take what I say with a pinch of salt, I am an atheist after all.

 

[Woodsey]

Not porn, because at least porn has a point:

"aggressively reache out to people who are far from God"

People who do that are just fucking annoying.

 

[nuba km]

I care about principles so I think you shouldn't make it.

 

[sheah1]

Yes if only because evangelists who want to "aggressively reach out" (read: tell everyone who isn't them they're wrong) make my blood boil. Although I am making assumptions and I don't know the full situation, they may simply want to spread their beliefs in a new, non-offensive way, but come on, "aggressively reach out".

 

[Hawgh]

Well, propaganda and porn strikes me as rather different things. So no.

 

[mjc0961]

Well it's the same in the sense of being a violation of your principles. So I'd say yeah it's equivalent.

Yeah in that since, for you it would be the same as filming porn.

In general, it is quite different of course. Personally I'd join many other people in this thread in saying that the propaganda for that church is much worse than the porn, but like most of them I too don't believe in any religion and really hate when any person of any religion tries to force feed their beliefs to anyone.

 

[Ravek]

Regardless of how it relates to porn, it's just a job. While I dislike people who attempt to convert me, I don't think any less of the printer studio who prints their flyers.

If the job will make you feel bad, it's probably best not to take the job. But I don't see a reason why you should feel bad about doing it.

 

[AlohaJo]

It isn't the same as making porn, because if you made a pornographic movie you would probably be paid more.

Just make sure you do something that hasn't been done before, something that could involve very short people and skydiving onto a jam tart.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

I would say check out a little more on the video this church is looking to make. If it isn't really that bad, then go ahead and make it. I don't see anything wrong with a religious group trying to spread information about their beliefs in a non-aggressive way. If it does seem like its going to be a propaganda film and you aren't comfortable with it, then I say don't do it. If its against your morals like filming porn is, then stick to it.

I mean you could always take up the job because you need the money, but people would probably call you a sell out or something. But we all got to make a living somehow.

Go with what you think is the best. If the film isn't too bad, make it. If you don't feel like filming it, then don't. If you really need the money, get it.

 

[Scobie]

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