Poll: Is It The Same As Filming Porn

[Kunzer]

No offense meant to you, or anyone else, but I find Catholicism far more offensive than a man and woman engaging in sexual acts.

Yeah, prefacing a statement like this with "no offense meant" doesn't really work. Because of course offense is meant. You know perfectly well the statement is offensive and will be seen as such by Catholics. If you're going to play at provocation, please have some stones about it; don't play dumb.

Actually, it works perfectly. I said that I have qualms with the organization. Not with the people.

Stating dislike of something is not the same as stating that I do not respect it.

I respect Catholicism as a religion with decent tenets of morality and faith.

I find certain aspects of it to be offensive and/or ridiculous and as such do not participate in said group.

That is my opinion, and I am entitled to it.

And no, no "offense is meant" because if I wanted to offend I would say something [i
]offensive[/i] which I have not done, nor intended to do.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Porn is sometimes distasteful, whereas propaganda always is. But the issue we need to consider here is money. Money money money. I see no reason why you shouldn't film both propaganda and porn if it will get you money. However, since you refuse to film porn, I see filming propaganda as an infringement of your principles. If you did film porn, I'd see no issue with the propaganda. Two wrongs make a right, you see.

 

[Webb5432]

Okay, I voted yes, but I do need to clarify. Technically, shooting a video for church and shooting a porno are two completely different things, so, be you might wanna be careful with your wording, but I would say that if you do not wish to shoot such a short, don't do it.

I'm the same way. Catholic. Low-key. I actually believe that every religion has a piece of a greater understanding that we are not willing to accept. I mean, what if no religion is wrong or right, but a different perceptive of the same events?

My apologies, I'm rambling.

To get back on track, I like to see it as the king from "Kingdom of Heaven" sees it. To badly paraphrase and twist a bit, here's the jist:

If you commit this act, and possibly die right after, and stand in the face of God, and he asks of you why you would help make such an arrogant statement that would potentially harm the faiths of others, how would you respond? "I did it to pay the bills". Now, in my belief, I don't think that would sit well with the big man upstairs...

So, just stick to what you believe. Act on what you believe is right, and you will have no regrets... well, I guess unless you find out that you're wrong, in which case, do whatever it takes to correct the mistake and learn from it. And then you will have no regrets.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

How is making a video intent on spreading the Gospel anything similar to porn?

There isn't much of a direct connection for the average religion or church but that doesn't mean there aren't similarities. In both cases you are trading on a basic human desire to create interest. Solace and sexuality are often very closely related.

But then here is the thing: one can film explicit scenes of unsimulated sex without a film being nothing other than pornography just as one can create a film about religion without exploiting the faithful or relying on threats and fear. For such a film to be equivlanent to pornography, you must first reduce the depiction of faith to a basic and exploitative level. The average Scientology recruitment film is, for example, equivalent to pornography.

 

[Bouncing Ferret FIlm]

failing to see the connection i think...that said..if your against the church job and still concider doing it..then..yea you might as well concider the porn to..your equally against it..but hey it pays the bills

[edit] heh..guess i did get the connection..nvm

Don't you just love it when you talk yourself into an answer

 

[Bouncing Ferret FIlm]

Well, no. Porn at least provides entertainment!

Ba-Dum-Tish!
[sub]I kid, I kid! Don't kill me![/sub]

OT: Not really. You'll find religious yammering is more widely accepted than humping ducks.

As long as its not for the Westboro Baptist Church, You're all good.

SILENCE! I KEEL YOU

 

[Iron Mal]

Of the two of them I would say that filming porn would be the lesser of two evils, especially seeing as the other sounds like religious propaganda (from how you described it, using the word 'agressive' to describe anything is usually a bad sign).

I would be far less offended by footage of two people having sex than by a short film telling me I'm evil and immoral for not believing in Jesus.

 

[BENZOOKA]

It's completely different.

Although far far far worse than porn.

 

[Bouncing Ferret FIlm]

But when we seem to be arguing that making an evangelizing film for your church is worse than making porn, I am losing faith in humanity. I really am.

Yes, how dare people have opinions they can back up with reasoning.
What has science done?

*highfive*

 

[Penguinness]

I try my best to avoid arguing about religious beliefs because its not longer a sharing of ideas, but a mission to prove one is right and one is wrong.

You are so right about that. People always talk about religion being forced on them but nowadays it feel like it's these people trying to force it out of those who are religious.

Think of it this way though, someone else will take those jobs if you don't, so they'll get their porn film or advert (which is all that they are asking of you) from whoever. I'd say take it and get some money.

 

[Jack Skelhon]

You're an independent film-maker. Having dabbled, let me put this to you straight.

You either film for the art form

Or you film for profit.

Most casual film-makers sit in the art sector, while professionals TEND to move towards the latter option. At the end of the day, it's between entertainment (pornography) and propaganda (religious videos).

Arguably, by filming the religious video you're the same as any other jihadist, mujahedeen, Serb-Croat, IRA Republican or whatever else. By filming porn, you get money.

Considering your blinkered view however, I don't think you have the capacity to be professional. A committed film-maker would already have taken BOTH opportunities and done them to the absolute best of his ability. The very best DJs were formerly pirate DJs. Harrison Ford was a carpenter.

Sometimes you have to deal with the rubbish before you make your Slumdog Millionaire or Monsters. So get on with it.

 

[mitchell271]

it's not like filming porn, but if it against what you believe, then don't do it. you have idealogical differences so don't argue with them.

 

[Jack Skelhon]

Unlike Jack, I can't claim to have dabbled. However, judging by what non-dabblers tend to say [http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/20/so-you-want-my-job-film-director/], I don't think porn is all that common as a route into mainstream film.

I'd definitely agree; a porn director would not be on any Hollywood list.

I retract my previous, somewhat arseholey statement.