Poll: Is it wrong to be a social shapeshifter?

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JWAN

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nepheleim said:
Hmm... to be so shallow that you try to be whatever a given group wants you to be, instead of just being yourself and finding friends who want to hang out with that person? Not wrong in the moral sense, but you are being stupid.
I don't understand how blending into the crowd is considered stupid. Its great if you can run a business and you need to make deals with another company. Could you give an example of it being shallow?
 

NeutralDrow

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Short response: no, it's not wrong.

Long response: No, it's not wrong. Expressing one's self is all well and good, but there is no sane reason to not do at least a little code-switching in social situations unless you're literally always around the same sort of people.

The moral of "Be Yourself" always struck me as sort of misplaced. In American and other individualistic cultures, it's always interpreted in a very broad way that really comes across as preaching to the choir (and in more collectivistic cultures, it's counterproductive). The real moral of "be yourself" is more along the lines of "don't be an obsequious boot-licker and/or succumb easily to peer pressure." Those sorts of acts are contemptible at best, self-destructive at worst.

But, just like in many cases, the overtones of a word or phrase don't usually keep up with its broadening meaning, so "social shapeshifting" seems to keep a connotation of "self denial" to, I would presume, most of the people who answered "yes" to this poll. It's really nothing of the sort.
 

nepheleim

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It's great for running a business, until your client catches on that you're a phony. Good luck getting customer loyalty after that. Being a genuine person may be hard sometimes, but that's a crappy excuse to pretend to be someone else.
 

SmartIdiot

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Nope. There's nothing wrong with, say, 'altering' parts of your personality in the pursuit of personal amusement. For gainging acceptance it is quite sad, however if you just like to keep people guessing there's not really a problem. It only becomes a problem when someone wants to get to know 'the real you' and other such horrible cliches. I have frustrated a few girls with that one.
 

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jeretik said:
Grimm91 said:
I was accused of being a social shapeshifter by a person that I know and that got me thinking. Why is that considered so bad by some people? To act as though you are one person ,yet be another? It is human nature to be accepted, yet when one person tries to integrate themselves they are accused of being a fake. This is rather strange to me. For we are all like this, even if we don't realize it. How often do we (as people) say or do things for fear of repercussion? The answer is all of the time! Like that friend that we know made a bad decision yet we hold our tongues from speaking what we truly think for we fear losing that friend. At times it may not be right or even true to you as a person, but it is still done. I ask you my fellow Escapists to you is this wrong? Is it dishonest? Or is it merely a way to survive among ourselves?
Because it is spineless behaviour. You are bound to betray someone in the future.

BTW, I've always been honest with my friend (singular, because I have only one)
Well I only have one real friend. I don't go around like some ***** that lies to everyone and tells different things about herself to feel accepted ,but, I do change my mannerisms and my ways of speaking. I alter my self just enough to avoid confrontation and I will not voice my real opinion. Is that spineless or just being tactful?
 

Vanilla Gorilla

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Personality is just a set of repeated actions noted by those around us. People inherently change who they are on a daily basis depending on who they are dealing with. There is nothing particularly wrong with this, in fact it seems healthy to as it allows us to explore facets of life and have experiences which might otherwise not be open to us.
 

Grimm91

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jeretik said:
Grimm91 said:
jeretik said:
Grimm91 said:
I was accused of being a social shapeshifter by a person that I know and that got me thinking. Why is that considered so bad by some people? To act as though you are one person ,yet be another? It is human nature to be accepted, yet when one person tries to integrate themselves they are accused of being a fake. This is rather strange to me. For we are all like this, even if we don't realize it. How often do we (as people) say or do things for fear of repercussion? The answer is all of the time! Like that friend that we know made a bad decision yet we hold our tongues from speaking what we truly think for we fear losing that friend. At times it may not be right or even true to you as a person, but it is still done. I ask you my fellow Escapists to you is this wrong? Is it dishonest? Or is it merely a way to survive among ourselves?
Because it is spineless behaviour. You are bound to betray someone in the future.

BTW, I've always been honest with my friend (singular, because I have only one)
Well I only have one real friend. I don't go around like some ***** that lies to everyone and tells different things about herself to feel accepted ,but, I do change my mannerisms and my ways of speaking. I alter my self just enough to avoid confrontation and I will not voice my real opinion. Is that spineless or just being tactful?
Yeah, it's spineless. I know people like you. Your spinelessness will get you several moderately payed jobs, you'll always live in a shadow of your father and I hate you, because I hate everyone like you.
I'm sorry did someone miss group therapy? Hate is not necessary, and to be honest you are rude. My father has been dead for 17 years now and I live in one mans shadow.
 

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jeretik said:
Grimm91 said:
jeretik said:
Grimm91 said:
I was accused of being a social shapeshifter by a person that I know and that got me thinking. Why is that considered so bad by some people? To act as though you are one person ,yet be another? It is human nature to be accepted, yet when one person tries to integrate themselves they are accused of being a fake. This is rather strange to me. For we are all like this, even if we don't realize it. How often do we (as people) say or do things for fear of repercussion? The answer is all of the time! Like that friend that we know made a bad decision yet we hold our tongues from speaking what we truly think for we fear losing that friend. At times it may not be right or even true to you as a person, but it is still done. I ask you my fellow Escapists to you is this wrong? Is it dishonest? Or is it merely a way to survive among ourselves?
Because it is spineless behaviour. You are bound to betray someone in the future.

BTW, I've always been honest with my friend (singular, because I have only one)
Well I only have one real friend. I don't go around like some ***** that lies to everyone and tells different things about herself to feel accepted ,but, I do change my mannerisms and my ways of speaking. I alter my self just enough to avoid confrontation and I will not voice my real opinion. Is that spineless or just being tactful?
Yeah, it's spineless. I know people like you. Your spinelessness will get you several moderately payed jobs, you'll always live in a shadow of your father and I hate you, because I hate everyone like you.
Does your name happen to be Gregory House?
 

Beefcakes

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I try to make as many people as happy as possible, as you may or may not know
Is doing so, I do manipulate my personality to please others, but around good friends they know its me their talking to.
Its known as Social-Chameleonism, or at least what I know it as.
 

Triple G

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And particulary this isn't real. Be yourself. Once I heard the saying:"The one, who has no own oppinion will be liked by everyone, but never by himself". And it's fucking true. I hate peeople who act as if they like you, but talk shit about you when you'Re not around. It's really spineless. That's why I have one BEST friend and like 1-3 regular friends and NO FUCKING MORE. The rest of the ppl I know are just buddies. And if I don't like someone, I let him know about it.
 

Aesthetical Quietus

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It is human to change at least slightly with each social group that we interact with, however it is wrong, and against the very essence of you to change completely with each group. If they don't like who you are normally, then why are you with them.
So, from what I've read in your post, it is wrong, but that is your own downfall.
With the different groups that I interact with, I know I change slightly, but it is not a complete change, more like changing gears than changing cars, y'know.
[For instance talking to my normal friends about what I talk to my fellow uni mates about(from my paper obviously), would be stupid.]
 

Gooble

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I'd say it depends on how much you change. If you act like a completely different person around different people, especially if it involves badmouthing people you wouldn't normally just to be seen as cool, then that is wrong.

But trying to make an effort for people to like you, if you want them to like you, is no problem; everyone acts differently around people, and are likely to carefully choose what they say so as not to offend the person, or to stop themselves from looking 'uncool'.
 

searanox

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Ditch your shallow, conformist herd mentality. You are who you are, and have confidence in that. If other people hate you for it (and chances are they will hate you for it) then that is the price you must pay in order to maintain your integrity as an individual. The only time "shapeshifting" is acceptable is when you are using it solely for profit; aesthetic magic can be incredibly useful for personal gain in the hands of a master.