Poll: Is Peter Molyneux a Narcissist?

[Valentine82]

Alright I thought that you were a bit better but now your no better then the people who make multiple Halo flame threads.

Did you read the post before you commented?

I'm sure he did read it and despite the fact that you did not bash Peter, you still made yet another thread which promotes negative discussion about Peter Molyneux which NO-ONE wants.

Ok, first in the other thread I set out specific arguments and I made concessions. The other thread was a serious thread for serious discussion and some people had some serious discussions on there.

Second this thread is for fun, and most people seem to have had fun with it thus far. Maybe you don't like it, but no one is making you read it or post on it. You don't speak for everyone.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Alright I thought that you were a bit better but now your no better then the people who make multiple Halo flame threads.

Did you read the post before you commented?

Did you read the Forum rules and guidelines before you posted your Molyneux hate threads. Did you ask yourself if it was against the rules before you posted this and your previous thread (Especially since it you didn't even have the decency to give the other side an option in the poll. Only choices that agree with you.) None the less these threads are no diffrent from normal hate threads done by trolls. So please, and I'm going to only ask once, stop making these threads. Your last one should have told you that we don't belive Molyneux is evil just becuase he didn't include what you wanted.

You are mischaracterizing my posts. First, I voted Cheese Cake, second I am not suggesting that Peter Molyneux is evil, third none of my posts are hate threads, fourth I have violated no rules, and finally you have not answered my question. Did you read the post before you commented? In addition, I have never criticized him for not including something I wanted, what I want or do not want is entirely irrelevant to any arguments I have made.

Anyway you obviously don't speak for everyone.

First and three- You curretnly have a thread asking if Molyneux is a Liar or and Idiot on this very page as I type. You also happen to include an option for those people that belive Molyneux is a conning them out of there cash.

Second: Your suggesting that he shares certain qualities to Narissists. I don't belive I have ever heard him talk about his past Achiviments,He dosen't force you to buy his game so I don't see how he manipulates people. I don't belive he gloats about his power,Success, or about how he looks. The only one that is proably true is him setting Unreleastic goals.

Fourth:Your thread titles says them all. To be honest I'm surprised that you didn't get suspended and got your past thread locked when you made a one way street with the polls.

Finnally: Yes I read your post and I still belive that this is a simple hate thread.

 

[FluffX]

Vanilla or bust.

You silly turtle, everyone knows that Strawberry is the best! Why... Gar the Smartest Orc once said...

Silly clothing failure, strawberry beats abuses its domestic partner.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Alright I thought that you were a bit better but now your no better then the people who make multiple Halo flame threads.

Did you read the post before you commented?

I'm sure he did read it and despite the fact that you did not bash Peter, you still made yet another thread which promotes negative discussion about Peter Molyneux which NO-ONE wants.

Ok, first in the other thread I set out specific arguments and I made concessions.

None of those concessions were a 'neither' option. You were asked multiple times to add one, and you chose not to. Only when a moderator forced the option in was there a balanced vote.

 

[Valentine82]

First and three- You curretnly have a thread asking if Molyneux is a Liar or and Idiot on this very page as I type.

The existence of other threads is not relevant to the content of this thread.

You also happen to include an option for those people that belive Molyneux is a conning them out of there cash.

Oh how horrible!

A lot of people apparently think he's a delusional dreamer, and a lot of people apparently think he's a con man. I provided a 'for fun' option for both, and even a Cheese Cake option, because everyone loves Cheesecake.

Your suggesting that he shares certain qualities to Narissists. I don't belive I have ever heard him talk about his past Achiviments,

But he's got a reputation for exaggerating things about his games, IE exaggerating his achievements. In any event I said I put the things in bold that made me think of him. I wasn't directly accusing him of anything.

He dosen't force you to buy his game

I never said he did.

so I don't see how he manipulates people.

You don't have to force someone to do something in order to manipulate them.

I don't belive he gloats about his power,Success, or about how he looks.

I never said he did.

The only one that is proably true is him setting Unreleastic goals.

That's why I included Delusional Dreamer.

Fourth:Your thread titles says them all.

It's a question, for a Poll.

To be honest I'm surprised that you didn't get suspended and got your past thread locked when you made a one way street with the polls.

Well this poll clearly isn't a one way street poll. In any event, I'm glad you're just a poster and not a moderator, you obviously don't like me.

Finnally: Yes I read your post and I still belive that this is a simple hate thread.

Then you're misinterpreting what you've read.

 

[Shapsters]

Alright I thought that you were a bit better but now your no better then the people who make multiple Halo flame threads.

Did you read the post before you commented?

I'm sure he did read it and despite the fact that you did not bash Peter, you still made yet another thread which promotes negative discussion about Peter Molyneux which NO-ONE wants.

Ok, first in the other thread I set out specific arguments and I made concessions. The other thread was a serious thread for serious discussion and some people had some serious discussions on there.

Second this thread is for fun, and most people seem to have had fun with it thus far. Maybe you don't like it, but no one is making you read it or post on it. You don't speak for everyone.

I don't speak for everyone but I can speak for a Mod in saying that this 'fun' could be had in the thread that you already made instead of making a whole other thread just to have some of what you call 'fun'.

 

[Valentine82]

None of those concessions were a 'neither' option. You were asked multiple times to add one, and you chose not to. Only when a moderator forced the option in was there a balanced vote.

Actually my concessions were in argument, unlike some I can be swayed by a logical argument. When someone presented a reasonable argument for how it even possibly could be neither, I had no objection for the neither option. Before that point people had failed to actually present an argument, but instead simply presented a statement without argument to support it.

I don't speak for everyone but I can speak for a Mod in saying that this 'fun' could be had in the thread that you already made instead of making a whole other thread just to have some of what you call 'fun'.

Actually no, first the thread I had already made was one for serious discussion on the issue of Peter Molyneux's honesty, anything else would be off topic. Second, limited polling options prevent such a poll. Third, let moderators speak for themselves. You don't speak for the majority of people who've posted on this thread and you don't speak for moderators.

 

[Curtmiester]

Well, this thread as failed on many levels. I find it hard to judge a man I've never met before, I will admit he did lie on some of his games, but I hardly think he's a bad of a person as you say.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Actually my concessions were in argument, unlike some I can be swayed by a logical argument. When someone presented a reasonable argument for how it even possibly could be neither, I had no objection for the neither option. Before that point people had failed to actually present an argument, but instead simply presented a statement without argument to support it.

Why did people have to provide 'a logical argument' to convince you to balance your poll? They have their reasons for voting that way, and you refused to allow them to vote accordingly until mods came in and did it for you. People provided arguments the entire time, and you didn't find them 'logical'. Some people believe things you don't agree with for reasons you don't accept. That doesn't give you a right to shun them.

 

[shadowelancer]

GO CHEESCAKE GO

 

[Knight Templar]

I don't speak for everyone but I can speak for a Mod in saying that this 'fun' could be had in the thread that you already made instead of making a whole other thread just to have some of what you call 'fun'.

Actually no, first the thread I had already made was one for serious discussion on the issue of Peter Molyneux's honesty, anything else would be off topic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't your first thread on this subject talking about what you would do with Peter Molyneux in a room alone?

 

[Valentine82]

Well, this thread as failed on many levels. I find it hard to judje a man I've never met before, I will admit he did lie on some of his games, but I hardly think he's a bad of a person as you say.

I didn't say he was a bad person at all in this thread

Why did people have to provide 'a logical argument' to convince you to balance your poll?

I didn't want to provide false balance. As soon as it was explained how it would not be false balance, I had no objection to a neither option.

People provided arguments the entire time, and you didn't find them 'logical'.

Actually no, until then people provided statements and reiterations without detailing the logic by which they reached their conclusions nor addressing the points I made in response to their statements.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't your first thread on this subject talking about what you would do with Peter Molyneux in a room alone?

Yup, to see what people would do. I wanted to chant bait and switch at him, some people wanted to give him milk and cookies, others wanted to do more violent things.

 

[Curtmiester]

Well, this thread as failed on many levels. I find it hard to judje a man I've never met before, I will admit he did lie on some of his games, but I hardly think he's a bad of a person as you say.

I didn't say he was a bad person at all in this thread

"but the things that make me think of him are in Bold.

Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals !!!
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional"

BULLLLLSHIT.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Well, this thread as failed on many levels. I find it hard to judje a man I've never met before, I will admit he did lie on some of his games, but I hardly think he's a bad of a person as you say.

I didn't say he was a bad person at all in this thread

Why did people have to provide 'a logical argument' to convince you to balance your poll?

I didn't want to provide false balance. As soon as it was explained how it would not be false balance, I had no objection to a neither option.

People provided arguments the entire time, and you didn't find them 'logical'.

Actually no, until then people provided statements and reiterations without detailing the logic by which they reached their conclusions nor addressing the points I made in response to their statements.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't your first thread on this subject talking about what you would do with Peter Molyneux in a room alone?

Yup, to see what people would do. I wanted to chant bait and switch at him, some people wanted to give him milk and cookies, others wanted to do more violent things.

Justify it as you will. I still hardly see how it would have been a false balance, but you obviously have your opinion on it and I'm not likely to change it.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

First and three- You curretnly have a thread asking if Molyneux is a Liar or and Idiot on this very page as I type.

The existence of other threads is not relevant to the content of this thread.

You also happen to include an option for those people that belive Molyneux is a conning them out of there cash.

Oh how horrible!

A lot of people apparently think he's a delusional dreamer, and a lot of people apparently think he's a con man. I provided a 'for fun' option for both, and even a Cheese Cake option, because everyone loves Cheesecake.

Your suggesting that he shares certain qualities to Narissists. I don't belive I have ever heard him talk about his past Achiviments,

But he's got a reputation for exaggerating things about his games, IE exaggerating his achievements. In any event I said I put the things in bold that made me think of him. I wasn't directly accusing him of anything.

He dosen't force you to buy his game

I never said he did.

so I don't see how he manipulates people.

You don't have to force someone to do something in order to manipulate them.

I don't belive he gloats about his power,Success, or about how he looks.

I never said he did.

The only one that is proably true is him setting Unreleastic goals.

That's why I included Delusional Dreamer.

Fourth:Your thread titles says them all.

It's a question, for a Poll.

To be honest I'm surprised that you didn't get suspended and got your past thread locked when you made a one way street with the polls.

Well this poll clearly isn't a one way street poll. In any event, I'm glad you're just a poster and not a moderator, you obviously don't like me.

Finnally: Yes I read your post and I still belive that this is a simple hate thread.

Then you're misinterpreting what you've read.

1) Just as a person uses evidence to explain his arguement I use your previous thread as evidence. I am simply using it to prove my point of you having a history with Anti-Peter Molyneux threads.

2)The Yes or No and possible maybe would have sufficed. Joke options don't offer any discussion and are actually a pet peeve of mine.

3)Fair enough

4)Fair Enough

5)Then it's not maniuplation. You can't manipulate if you have no control over them.

6)You bolded. Giving people the Idea that he does in fact gloat about it.

7 + 8) Once again referring to the past Anti-Molynuex Thread.

9)How can I misinterept my own opinon.

 

[Valentine82]

BULLLLLSHIT.

Sorry, but like I said I didn't call him a bad person. I said the things that made me think of him were in bold and I listed off the full criteria for Narcissim highlighting only a few things that made me think of him, and I was sure to point out that I don't think that he's a Narcissist and that some of the traits listed were common in most people. All of the things in bold involve the type of games he makes and the things he says about them.

 

[GrinningManiac]

Good god, what are you, ten?

Actually, I feel bad for all the clever, thoughtful ten-year olds I've met.

Including Ashley. Damn that kid is awesome. Awesome 'fro too

Reported, and Ash hates you

 

[Valentine82]

1) Just as a person uses evidence to explain his arguement I use your previous thread as evidence. I am simply using it to prove my point of you having a history with Anti-Peter Molyneux threads.

I have a history of three threads that have to do with Peter Molyneux, one was just to see what people would do, one was for serious discussion, and this one's just for fun. I only use PM because he's a big name in the industry and he has a history that many already know, and also because he's working on Fable 3 putting him in the public mind more.

2)The Yes or No and possible maybe would have sufficed. Joke options don't offer any discussion and are actually a pet peeve of mine.

But it would be so much less fun!

5)Then it's not maniuplation. You can't manipulate if you have no control over them.

Deception is a form of manipulation.

6)You bolded. Giving people the Idea that he does in fact gloat about it.

Or giving the impression that he exaggerates the contents of his games.

9)How can I misinterept my own opinon.

You misinterpreted my thread, not your opinion of it.

Good god, what are you, ten?

Actually, I feel bad for all the clever, thoughtful ten-year olds I've met.

Including Ashley. Damn that kid is awesome. Awesome 'fro too

Reported, and Ash hates you

Well that contributes nothing. I have violated no rules in any event, so reporting me doesn't really solve anything.

 

[Shycte]

He does his job, very well. I seriously don't see the problem. No onne is forcing you to buy his games. So if you don't think that they will live up to the hype, then just don't buy the game.

Problem solved!

 

[Valentine82]

He does his job, very well. I seriously don't see the problem. No onne is forcing you to buy his games. So if you don't think that they will live up to the hype, then just don't buy the game.

Problem solved!

What does that have to do with anything?