Poll: Is realism killing video games?

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PinkyM44 post=9.68566.635325 said:
Realism is shit.Everything is same, look at gears of war.Grey is fuckin everywhere.though its still a good game and it is still fun butt once u see one screen, youve seen them all
First, the color scheme is a visual problem, not a problem with realism. Actually, if a game is realistic, not everything would be gray. Gears of War is not realistic. You seem to have taken your opinion, and tried to back it up with something totally unrelated. This is like saying basketball sucks because Microsoft made Halo.

Second, perhaps you should learn to use proper grammar, capitalization, spelling, and punctuation. Maybe try just relearning the language?

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Johnn Johnston post=9.68566.635336 said:
A bit of realism is good, but add too much and the game becomes mundane and boring. There's a reason we're playing a game - and it isn't so that we can act out our dull lives.
I think you have overblown the idea of realism. There is a middle ground between "freaking crazy" and "the Sims." The sweet-spot of realism, where you take all the rules of reality, and put them in an unusual situation. So you take average Joe, and put him in the center of an alien invasion or something. Knowmmsayin?

EDIT AGAIN: Sorry! I copy-pasted my edit in the wrong place, and it looked like I thought you had bad grammar and all. Fixed.
 

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PinkyM44 said:
Realism is shit.Everything is same, look at gears of war.Grey is fuckin everywhere.though its still a good game and it is still fun butt once u see one screen, youve seen them all
I don't think that an interplanetary defense of earth by a handful of over armed douche bags quite qualifies as realism.

Sci Fi is going to have to take a lump for that sin.
 

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Mistah Kurtz post=9.68566.635280 said:
That's like asking if the invention of sound killed movies.
Er, no its not. Though the advent of "talkies" did utterly destroy the careers of many great actors simply because their voices were not very good. You could call it a similar situation but I don't think its utterly the same. "Realism" may have been a gradual evolution in gaming but its also a consciously-applied mechanic; you can still make unrealistic games and have them be acceptable and good. Heck, you can still make silent films and some people adore them.
 

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DeadlyFred post=9.68566.635471 said:
Mistah Kurtz post=9.68566.635280 said:
That's like asking if the invention of sound killed movies.
Er, no its not.
Yeah. Sound has become almost essential. Look at how many games today don't have really any realism. Like many Nintendo games.
 

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DeadlyFred post=9.68566.635471 said:
Mistah Kurtz post=9.68566.635280 said:
That's like asking if the invention of sound killed movies.
Er, no its not. Though the advent of "talkies" did utterly destroy the careers of many great actors simply because their voices were not very good. You could call it a similar situation but I don't think its utterly the same. "Realism" may have been a gradual evolution in gaming but its also a consciously-applied mechanic; you can still make unrealistic games and have them be acceptable and good. Heck, you can still make silent films and some people adore them.
Er, yes it is. I'm aware that the invention of sound destroyed the career's of many people in the film industry because they could not adapt to the change, but that does not mean that film itself was destroyed. Realism isn't killing games, it's just phasing out more classical abstract styles of gaming, just like how we no longer have many silent or black and white films today. Video game's are evolving, not dying, but despite that fact there are still many old style games coming out from things like homebrew developers, indie game makers and XBL Arcade with games like Schizoid.

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asmodaus post=9.68566.632951 said:
In COD4 it was pretty much everything
how is CoD4 even remotely realistic? Spoilers: IT ISNT.
Knock it off, COD is one of the most realistic shooters out today. When people talk about realism in first person shooters they mean moving at human speed, noticeable recoil, 1-2 shot deaths. You can pick any game apart to death pointing out aspects that aren't 'realistic' and I defy you to point me to an online shooter that is significantly more realistic than COD4.
 

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umm... americas army....., did you know that you can strafe jump in COD4? Did you also know that shooting a gun is actually you know.... not just hold and spray... Cod 4 is not realistic in the least. Can you run and shoot and actually hit anything in real life... not likely. Can you jump off a building, go into iron site, and shoot someone mid-air in real life.

Stupid argument.
 

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Mistah Kurtz post=9.68566.635683 said:
DeadlyFred post=9.68566.635471 said:
Mistah Kurtz post=9.68566.635280 said:
That's like asking if the invention of sound killed movies.
Er, no its not. Though the advent of "talkies" did utterly destroy the careers of many great actors simply because their voices were not very good. You could call it a similar situation but I don't think its utterly the same. "Realism" may have been a gradual evolution in gaming but its also a consciously-applied mechanic; you can still make unrealistic games and have them be acceptable and good. Heck, you can still make silent films and some people adore them.
Er, yes it is. I'm aware that the invention of sound destroyed the career's of many people in the film industry because they could not adapt to the change, but that does not mean that film itself was destroyed. Realism isn't killing games, it's just phasing out more classical abstract styles of gaming, just like how we no longer have many silent or black and white films today. Video game's are evolving, not dying, but despite that fact there are still many old style games coming out from things like homebrew developers, indie game makers and XBL Arcade with games like Schizoid.

XT post=9.68566.635379 said:
asmodaus post=9.68566.632951 said:
In COD4 it was pretty much everything
how is CoD4 even remotely realistic? Spoilers: IT ISNT.
Knock it off, COD is one of the most realistic shooters out today. When people talk about realism in first person shooters they mean moving at human speed, noticeable recoil, 1-2 shot deaths. You can pick any game apart to death pointing out aspects that aren't 'realistic' and I defy you to point me to an online shooter that is significantly more realistic than COD4.
Operation Flashpoint.
 

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Realism can spawn truely excellent games, that give off a feeling of overwhelming immersion. Accomplishments in it become somewhat more rewarding, and you can generally compare with the protagonist better then you could compare with Bicep Mc' Kill-a-whole-friggen-Nation. Personalyl it depends entirely on the games atmosphere. If realism is misapplyed to a ridiculous over the top game then the whole thing falls to shit. Now if its applied to games like GTA4, now you have something beautiful going on. OH and realistic shooters can happen as messily proven by Call of Cthulhu dark corners of the earth (only recommended though if you don't mind incredably frustrating stealth segments).
 

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Its most important that the game is fun, if its not, it can have all the seriousness of a oscar movie but still bore you. games need to be fun, before everything else.
 
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Realism is good for some games, but I do think that the endeavor to make a game look realistic may keep developers from using a more artistic style. I'm one of the few people I know who likes games that are cell shaded. and look at the screen shots for MadWorld, thats more artistic and I'm drawn to it more than say, Gears of War 2.
 

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If it is a shooter, there needs to be less realism because if it was anywhere close to the real thing then no one would play it afer the first hour.

But most other games sure, I'm down with that.
 

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Well, we know we have lost when The Sims becomes completely realistic. That would be the epitome of dull.
Realism does drive a lot of games too. GTA 4 didn't exactly gain an advantage from going towards realism but others like...well.. Far Cry 2? Yeah that's about it. Well they seem to have gained something from it.
There is a lot of bullshit about "Ultra Realism" though. Like Saints Row 2 is apparently meant to be Ultra realistic. Its just so obvious when you look at it, I mean who doesn't burn down shopping malls with a flame thrower these days and slaughter people with shock paddles.
I rest my case ;)
 

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Codgo post=9.68566.634193 said:
The fact you say GTAIV and COD4 as ?realistic? games just made me laugh, i don't find anything realistic about them. I think some people have some very strange ideas about what is realism. Just because a game is visually realistic it does not make it so.

Guys sprinting around like Olympic athletes carrying heavy equipment and assault weapons tossing grenades and taking 3 bullets in the chest in Call of Duty 4 is NOT realistic.

If you wanted GTAIV to be realistic you would have to make lots of changes. Cops would arrest you for breaking the speed limit and other minor driving offenses, one gunshot would likely kill you, any crash would be very serious. etc etc

When they start doing that you should be worried.

Some more realistic games are still fun like Operation Flashpoint. Mafia is similar to GTA but it had a more realistic take on things. People still found it a great game.
You're taking realism too literally. Realism means it's MORE realistic, not entirely realistic. If you had a game that imitates reality right down to a tee, why the hell would anyone play it?
 

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Anyway, that one option in the polls just makes all the other obselete, i.e. 'I don't care as long as they're fun'. A game could argue that Hitler was the greatest man alive and it could insult every racial minority on the planet so much that it brings a tear to your eye, but as long as it's fun, that's really the primary intention of the game. Cue random know-it-all to tell me I'm wrong.
 

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Its not that I dislike realism in games, its the fact that almost every game out there is trying to maximise the realism. This means that gamers like myself who like our arcade style games like DOOM have few (if any) releases to look foward to because they're either all military shooters or RPGs (and Resi 5).
 

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Vanguard_Ex post=9.68566.637108 said:
Anyway, that one option in the polls just makes all the other obselete, i.e. 'I don't care as long as they're fun'. A game could argue that Hitler was the greatest man alive and it could insult every racial minority on the planet so much that it brings a tear to your eye, but as long as it's fun, that's really the primary intention of the game. Cue random know-it-all to tell me I'm wrong.
Well, if you take it to extreme measures like THAT then yeah the option is absolete. But that option would be for games that are/arn't realistic, I don't care wether a game is realistic or not as long as it's fun for me to play.

But who would find a game that shows Hitler was right and was the greatest man find that fun?

...I shouldn't be saying things like that, this is the internet afterall.