True, and it does raise the question about where insults should be taken between different cultures and the underlying feelings of entitlement from one culture looking at another. Just reading replies here, I get a strong sense that a lot of 4chan hate is remarkably similar to a feeling of judging one culture through the morality, norms and lens of another. Like how Europeans would judge the habits and rituals of natives because it affronted their moral standards, so to do many whine about 4chan for the same thing. Use of bad or negative words in a joking manner, trolling by everyone, laughing at misfortune, general dickishness all around, they all are aspects most society detest and fight against, and yet they are all aspects that are based on a moral or cultural norm rather then some universal standard.chadachada123 said:
Now I do often call 4chan the asshole of the internet myself. The amount of trolls there and my own dislike of them makes it hard to like, but even I can understand that a subculture like it having its own place does have a point, a right and even a meaning in existence. Certainly enough that it should not be used as a reason to say the internet is bad.
This also raises a secondary question about entitlement to insult or insult avoidance. Is someone, by virtue of being a different culture then someone else, entitled to not feel insulted by them? Should one culture change or behave in a different way to avoid insulting another unintentionally (if they are being intentional, then sort of a moot point of respecting them when the goal is to actively insult, but that is beside the point). I hear complaints about language use and insulting nature from people looking in, yet, it seems more like how the religious butt into things then anything else. If my friend calls me a fag, I don't take offense, he didn't mean it as offense and yet someone else may say it is offensive. Who decides and why, and what culture gets to be most deferred to for moral outrage and why? It really seems more about imposing a norm on a group then anything else. Are there racists, sexists douches there? Yeah, and they should and often are called out and mocked for that, least according to my morality and opinion, but while in their own home, so to speak? Or making fools of themselves by taking a bunch of trolls seriously? idk, seems like over-stepping the bounds of moral indignation into the realm of pushing that moral outrage into changing how someone behaves in their own area.
now if it was a religious morality pushing that way into a sexual one, so many get pissed, and rightfully so because they do not have the right to try to say one group has no right to exist or that their ways are wrong just because it is not understood or judged through a culture that the group itself does not have. Idk, maybe I read too much into this.
