Poll: Is there any hope Dragon Age?

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Amondren

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Ok stop reading here people if you didnt finish both games.

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DA3 is probably going to fuck it's self over in my opinion. I loved DA:O and in the end gave up my own life and in DA2 they mentioned the Warden went missing so what my body decided it didn't like the dirt their and got up and left c'mon. Story is going to be hard to fix but not impossible.

DA:O-Good customization the character felt like you had control over them, interesting spells, good dialog tree (I don't care if The warden is voice acted) and amazing story.

DA2-Decent customization of Hawke, Spell branches were better but felt lacking in upgrades, dialog wasn't as good (I like Mass Effect ok but I felt that the dialog wheel didn't suit it here), Combat was a A+ for me sure they took out those nifty execution animations but that only slowed my killing spree, Story was decent but felt forced no matter what you do the church WILL blow up and you WILL have to choose a side and you WILL have to fight both the harvester and the Knight-Captain.

Put the 2 together then lets talk about DA3

God sorry for that just needed that out there.
 
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Bara_no_Hime said:
Nicholas Woodruff said:
Is there anything Bioware could do better to save Dragon Age as a franchise, or did they pretty well kill it with Dragon Age 2?
Okay. I finished playing DA2 a couple of days ago. Here's my take:

Dragon Age 2 = Iron Man 2.

Both are very good entries that have to be compared to their better predecessor.

There is nothing wrong with Dragon Age 2. It's a great game.

It's just not DA:O.

Basically, DA2 is a massive trailer for DA3. It introduces another important character, and sets up the plot for DA3 where the character from DA:O needs to come back and fix things.

Just like how Iron Man 2 was just a massive trailer for the Avengers movie.

So yeah. Nothing wrong with DA2 other than it had to follow DA:O.
ill agree to this, it very much seems like it builds up alot of backstory for something bigger, and that everyone inevitably compares it to the first one


stand alone? not a bad game, i enjoyed it and will probably play it once or twice again before summer is over.
 

Ishadus

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I loved DA2 and preferred it vastly over its predecessor. I never understood all the whining it received.
 

Isalan

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Sometimes, I get the horrible feeling that Bioware have come to the conclusion that there's no point making a great game when a mediocre one will sell buckets with the right name attached.

Still, it would be nice to be surprised. DA:O was a damn fine game, even with the endless load times.
 

Madkipz

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Considering that Green lantern apparently gets a sequel then yea you might see the fourth installment even.

will it save the franchise? doubt it.
 

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Nicholas Woodruff said:
Bioware, Bioware, Bioware. We need to talk.

Remember Dragon Age: Origins? With it's originality, and deep world, fantastic quests and stories, characters that you fell in love with, and DLC that drew you in.
That's what we were looking for in Dragon Age 2.
What the hell happened?

I mean, look at Mass Effect. The original, Good. The Second, Fantastic. The Third, Better damn well live up to the hype better than Duke Nukem Forever.

Is there anything Bioware could do better to revive hope in Dragon Age as a franchise, or did they pretty well kill it with Dragon Age 2?
i never played dragon age 2 but i think they killed the series with dragon age origins. okay maybe thats a little harsh but DA:O was a huge disappointment to me. maybe it was because i was comparing it to the baldurs gate series but while baldurs gate felt like a simplified version of d&d, dragon age felt like a simplified version of baldurs gate. i didnt find the story particularly deep and the only characters i cared about were morrigan and allistar, and thats just because they were funny. ive come to realize im not a fan of bioware, in general. though ive never played the mass effect games.
 

lumenadducere

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Old topic is old? There've been many posts on this, dunno why it's even a thing anymore.

But as for the topic itself, we'll see what happens with the next one. If they actually listen to the criticism and figure out what to do with it, then they could redeem themselves. If not, then it just becomes another franchise that goes by the wayside...probably to be revived ten years later.
 

Ailia

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I had a great time with DA2 and 100%ed it in under two weeks. The biggest issues can be blamed on EA rushing the game out when it was only 75% done, but I have faith that with a longer developpement time the third game will be much better.
 

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Amondren said:
Ok stop reading here people if you didnt finish both games.

SPOILERS:

DA3 is probably going to fuck it's self over in my opinion. I loved DA:O and in the end gave up my own life and in DA2 they mentioned the Warden went missing so what my body decided it didn't like the dirt their and got up and left c'mon. Story is going to be hard to fix but not impossible.
In that situation, the Warden is probably referring to the Warden Commander, who was the Character in the Awakening expansion if you didn't import a character from Origins, or your character died.
Or that could just be one of the plot holes, either or.
 

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When Dragon Age 2 was first announced, Bioware said they wanted to make DA their hardcore RPG series and have Mass Effect as their more action-oriented series. That's what annoys me so much about DA2 - Bioware turned DA into an action-heavy button masher. There's already plenty of games like that around and there's less and less available for those of us who like our complex tactical RPGs. And we don't want an "awesome button".
 

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It's not like a movie where the bad sequel can kill a franchise with a good first movie. They can always improve and I personally think they need to make all characters abilities done by the player similar to the Star Wars KotOR, but alas that is not marketable and they will probably dumb it down more then the second did the first.
 

Amondren

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RatRace123 said:
Amondren said:
Ok stop reading here people if you didnt finish both games.

SPOILERS:

DA3 is probably going to fuck it's self over in my opinion. I loved DA:O and in the end gave up my own life and in DA2 they mentioned the Warden went missing so what my body decided it didn't like the dirt their and got up and left c'mon. Story is going to be hard to fix but not impossible.
In that situation, the Warden is probably referring to the Warden Commander, who was the Character in the Awakening expansion if you didn't import a character from Origins, or your character died.
Or that could just be one of the plot holes, either or.
I certainly hope that its the Warden Commander lol.
 

Hectix777

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This is getting seriously old, the game got an 8/10 that's pretty alright. Origins gotta perfect 10, you can't expect something tonged perfect 10s on all 3 shots. Just calm down, don't be that guy no one like that guy...*sigh*Now I gotta play Dragon Age and get %100 again, thanks.
 

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I think the crap given to DA2 is largely undeserved. This is not to say it is without its flaws. The constant reuse of the same dungeon schemes, even in different areas, has no excuse. Things such as re-imagining the dark spawn look, giving them skin tight chainmail . . . was not only a step in the wrong direction, making them look less threatening and even perhaps comical, but doesn't make much sense given what they are. I can forgive them changing the Qunari, because they state that not all Qunari have horns, and that explains Sten.

But seriously, it was still FUN. I mean a lot of fun. The characters, great. The story, . . . fragmented but great. The combat, entertaining.

So I would argue it doesn't even need saving. So long as they take some of the criticism to heart the next one will be great.
 

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Nicholas Woodruff said:
Bioware, Bioware, Bioware. We need to talk.

Remember Dragon Age: Origins? With it's originality, and deep world, fantastic quests and stories, characters that you fell in love with, and DLC that drew you in.
That's what we were looking for in Dragon Age 2.
What the hell happened?

I mean, look at Mass Effect. The original, Good. The Second, Fantastic. The Third, Better damn well live up to the hype better than Duke Nukem Forever.

Is there anything Bioware could do better to revive hope in Dragon Age as a franchise, or did they pretty well kill it with Dragon Age 2?
Dragon Age :Epsiode 4 A New Hope...... DA2 was good, bt lacked the immersion of DA1. I wanted more fu**ing enviorments and maps for sure, butttt it was good enough to beat twice.
 

bob-2000

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The writing of DA2 was far better than that of DAO. If you can't look over the gameplay flaws to the more important parts of the game, then maybe the series isn't for you.
As good as the original was, the plot of DAO was mindbogglingly unoriginal. It's not the devs problem if you are afraid of change.
 

MetallicaRulez0

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I hope DA3 is more like DA2 with the story and atmosphere from the first game. I greatly preferred the actual gameplay from the 2nd game compared to the slow boring combat from Origins.