Poll: Is this feminism or just fucking madness? (Male and Female opinions appreciated)

[Vuzzmop]

Eh. I have no issue with the idea of human genitalia shaped jewellery, frankly it just cuts out the middle man. But feminist? Really? This isn't feminism, its profiteering. Again, I have no issue, I'm a dirty capitalist myself, I just wish they'd be honest. Ultimately though, most of this stuff is somewhat tasteful, and I don't see a big problem here.

 

[ThePurpleStuff]

Not something you'd wear in public or just plain buy in general, but if I did see it with a quick glance I'd give a good laugh since it's so fucking funny.

It's plain madness, I don't see any sort of feminism in it, besides the fact it's a lady-part shaped flower.

 

[smashmaniac64]

*tramatized for life*

 

[Something Amyss]

Female rights are one thing, throwing blaring reminders in people's faces every day is another. Come on girls, we can show we're strong, confident females without having to accentuate the biology into fashion motifs.

I just don't want to see it.

And as a result, vaginas remain an object of shame.

Sorry, but it sounds like the whole "keep it in the closet" argument for homosexuality.

 

[Silver_Shade]

I imagine I'd feel the same way way about a woman wearing one of these things out in public as I would about a guy who puts balls on his truck or wears one of those "The Man, The Legend" shirts (et al).

As in, 'I don't think we can be friends'.

I'm all for loving your body and taking care of yourself, but the blatant shock factor inherent in these screams "My parents didn't hug me enough".

Yes, I would like to live in a society where all parts of the body are socially acceptable and people don't think seeing breasts and penises will corrupt the youth. Unfortunately, in this society, at this time, things like this symbolize not health and pride, but shock value and desire for attention.

Also, for the people saying out society isn't heavily weighed toward phallic imagery, I think you're very wrong. I'm not talking about guns and swords and all that designed-for-function nonsense, I mean the fact that, YES, you can get wallets with penises emblazoned across them. Not to mention pretty much any kind of clothing, keychain, or other accessory you'd prefer. People LOVE to call attention to their penises, and there's a booming industry for merchandise that caters to that.

I doubt many of you own a whole lot of "I heart my privates" apparel (I hope you don't, anyway) but it's out there.

You can buy a scrotum for your car. I mean COME ON.

(Woman, equal rights enthusiast)

 

[Vraeyda]

Female rights are one thing, throwing blaring reminders in people's faces every day is another. Come on girls, we can show we're strong, confident females without having to accentuate the biology into fashion motifs.

I just don't want to see it.

And as a result, vaginas remain an object of shame.

Sorry, but it sounds like the whole "keep it in the closet" argument for homosexuality.

There's a difference between Nudity and Empowerment. Not everyone is comfortable seeing body parts on jewelry.

I'm not ashamed of being a woman, I want to respect myself by not shoving intimate portraiture of my genitals in peoples' faces. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[The_Echo]

Yes, vaginas. Women have them. Why should they boast about it? It's not like it's some kind of advanced feat of superhuman ability to attain one. It would be like if people who can taste started wearing tongue pendants and suchlike.

But hey, if you want to wear meat curtain memorabilia around town, be my guest.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Them's a lot of snootches.

I don't mind vaginal jewelry, but a bit more symbolism couldn't hurt.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

*Must resist obvious play on title*

If this is okay for women to carry around does that mean men can get penis stuff and carry it around too? I mean besides ridiculous phallic-shaped stuff...

 

[Silver_Shade]

Female rights are one thing, throwing blaring reminders in people's faces every day is another. Come on girls, we can show we're strong, confident females without having to accentuate the biology into fashion motifs.

I just don't want to see it.

And as a result, vaginas remain an object of shame.

Sorry, but it sounds like the whole "keep it in the closet" argument for homosexuality.

Vaginas aren't an object of shame unless you're ashamed of your vagina. I don't really want people shoving purses with tongues on them in my face either, doesn't mean I'm ashamed of my tongue.

 

[manythings]

I imagine I'd feel the same way way about a woman wearing one of these things out in public as I would about a guy who puts balls on his truck or wears one of those "The Man, The Legend" shirts (et al).

As in, 'I don't think we can be friends'.

I'm all for loving your body and taking care of yourself, but the blatant shock factor inherent in these screams "My parents didn't hug me enough".

Yes, I would like to live in a society where all parts of the body are socially acceptable and people don't think seeing breasts and penises will corrupt the youth. Unfortunately, in this society, at this time, things like this symbolize not health and pride, but shock value and desire for attention.

Also, for the people saying out society isn't heavily weighed toward phallic imagery, I think you're very wrong. I'm not talking about guns and swords and all that designed-for-function nonsense, I mean the fact that, YES, you can get wallets with penises emblazoned across them. Not to mention pretty much any kind of clothing, keychain, or other accessory you'd prefer. People LOVE to call attention to their penises, and there's a booming industry for merchandise that caters to that.

I doubt many of you own a whole lot of "I heart my privates" apparel (I hope you don't, anyway) but it's out there.

You can buy a scrotum for your car. I mean COME ON.

(Woman, equal rights enthusiast)

Well maybe where you live guys are psychotic about carrying about penile symbols but I have yet to even hear of or see a product with a cock on it. No cars have balls, no cock wallets, not penile chains or anything else. There are those "The man, The legned" shirts though.

 

[Krafty_Krocodile]

Isn't there laws about indecent exposure, and shouldn't this be a part of it? but in all seriousness i do see anyone wearing it at all.

 

[Natmonkey]

Oh yes, I've always wanted a vagina dangling just above my breasts to show off how much of a feminist I am! Yeah... No.

 

[manythings]

*Must resist obvious play on title*

If this is okay for women to carry around does that mean men can get penis stuff and carry it around too? I mean besides ridiculous phallic-shaped stuff...

The title wasn't intentional but hey it worked out.

 

[C95J]

WTF!?! Vagina jewellery and accessories, the worlds gone mad!

 

[my_ledge_ends]

There's no real point to showing off a vagina or penis except to prove that you have a vagina or penis. .

So now you're saying I can't wear a vulva pendant just because I'm a guy?! [font color=white]jk, jk[/font]

At no point did I not say you "can't" wear a vulva pendant (and certainly not "because you're a guy"), just that you "shouldn't" wear a vulva pendant because it's pointless. Unless you can give me a good reason why

I don't think it's a bad thing that the designers of this type of jewelery want to replace the culturally-enforced image of female genitalia as something "obscene" and to be hidden. I think you're wrong that it's necessarily "meaningless self-aggrandization" to wear a vagina-flower-- this really isn't about exposing yourself to people (certainly much less so than skinny jeans), it's about accepting the reality of the vagina.

Like, really? "Accepting the reality of the vagina"? I'm going to go wear an apple around my neck so you "accept the reality" of gravity. Or maybe I'll go paint myself black so you "accept the reality" of color-equality. All of those statements are meaningless because the debate is long over. The colors are equal, objects attract one another, and vaginas exist. There's nothing to deny.

I'm not going to spend time arguing about the "point" of any style of fashion-- all people have different motivations for publicly expressing themselves the way that they do.[...]Or something. If you just think it looks nice, then that's all it's really about.

Just because someone thinks something is nice (or thinks something at all) does not mean other people agree, or should agree, or that they are not harmed by it, or they are wrong for objecting. "Statements", whether they be visual or verbal, can affect other people negatively, whether that effect is mental or physical. That is why we have libel laws and why we have obscenity laws (once again, the legal definition of obscene is not 'disgusting', it's simply 'tending to stir the sex impulses'). Showing off a vagina or a penis can and will negatively affect people.

The question, then, is not "he has an opinion, therefore we should accept it", but "which opinion, when put into practice, will cause the least amount of harm to the general public"? You could make a very convincing argument why, say, a pederast deserved to be murdered by a serial killer, but it was still murder and still should be punished because without that murder law there would be no recourse for the general public when they, too, are harmed by that same serial killer. The harm for allowing pederasts to live is outweighed by the benefit from not legally accepting murder.

 

[Divine Miss Bee]

i don't know that it has as much to do with "feminism" as much as the idea that censorship of our bodies stems from a bad place. there are people who believe that the modesty inflicted upon the world by religion and laws is a bad thing that should be removed. think more of nudism than feminism-it's a counterculture thing, not a female-specific thing. nudity for everyone, don't take shame in the bodies we were born with when you could be finding beauty in them instead, etc. the basic idea is the body as art form, and these representations shouldn't be seen differently than a picture of someone's lips or hands.

 

[Silver_Shade]

I imagine I'd feel the same way way about a woman wearing one of these things out in public as I would about a guy who puts balls on his truck or wears one of those "The Man, The Legend" shirts (et al).

As in, 'I don't think we can be friends'.

I'm all for loving your body and taking care of yourself, but the blatant shock factor inherent in these screams "My parents didn't hug me enough".

Yes, I would like to live in a society where all parts of the body are socially acceptable and people don't think seeing breasts and penises will corrupt the youth. Unfortunately, in this society, at this time, things like this symbolize not health and pride, but shock value and desire for attention.

Also, for the people saying out society isn't heavily weighed toward phallic imagery, I think you're very wrong. I'm not talking about guns and swords and all that designed-for-function nonsense, I mean the fact that, YES, you can get wallets with penises emblazoned across them. Not to mention pretty much any kind of clothing, keychain, or other accessory you'd prefer. People LOVE to call attention to their penises, and there's a booming industry for merchandise that caters to that.

I doubt many of you own a whole lot of "I heart my privates" apparel (I hope you don't, anyway) but it's out there.

You can buy a scrotum for your car. I mean COME ON.

(Woman, equal rights enthusiast)

Well maybe where you live guys are psychotic about carrying about penile symbols but I have yet to even hear of or see a product with a cock on it. No cars have balls, no cock wallets, not penile chains or anything else. There are those "The man, The legned" shirts though.

Oh man, where do you live? I want to come live in this wondrous land of magic where men don't put balls on their trucks.

 

[RJ Dalton]

I think the feminist tag is more of a cheap attempt to grab customers.

Yeah, same.
A lot of companies do shit like this. Movies do it, too. Mulan and Pocahontas were both written the way they are in an attempt to make feminists happy. Joss Whedon does the same with many of his female characters. It's all pretty much the same (although on a slightly less shocking/possibly pornographic level); shallow, formulaic attention getters serving no greater purpose than to attract an audience when it otherwise wouldn't have one, giving the appearance of feminism without having to actually understand what the movement really represents and means.
What bothers me is that people actually buy it.