Poll: Is Xbox 360 done?
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No, the 360 isn't dieing and this generation of consoles isn't over yet.
Also, your spelling and sentence structure are offensive.
Also, your spelling and sentence structure are offensive.
Oh god, please stop quoting the new guy, he'll have about 20 messages when he gets back.
On topic, I stopped reading after "this gen is coming to a close".
No.
On topic, I stopped reading after "this gen is coming to a close".
No.
You know something just because someone may be mistaken doesn't make them a troll. Has it occurred to some of the people in this thread that the OP may be under the assumption that console generations last about five years? This was after all the major trend before the arrival of the Playstation.
One other thing I have noticed is a severe lack of news about the system in terms of upcoming games within the last year. All of this while their direct competition has been steadily improving over that same period of time.
One other thing I have noticed is a severe lack of news about the system in terms of upcoming games within the last year. All of this while their direct competition has been steadily improving over that same period of time.
While some people are still lapping up new Halo and Gears of War games, most people realise that they're not even as good as multiplatform games, and the hype will die out. That's why Epic is working on Bulletstorm and Bungie is done with Halo. They're quitting while they're ahead.MercurySteam said:
Blue Dragon off hand with 3.
Wow even got Susan mad at me that got to be a new one. I was not trying to troll I even wanted to be proven wrong to be honest. I myself felt like me only games are the strength of a console. I woul have replayed sooner but well the net went down on me an I just got it back. Thank you for replaying I'm sorry if I came out as a troll it was not my intent with losing Mass Effect an Bungie I was just asking to see others views on the subject in a nutral place with many voices. Again I am sorry i kicked up so much dust. Still proud of getting a responce from Susan thought even if it an angry one. Even the wrath of go means he's paying attition to you.Susan Arendt said:
Lets be honest the PS3 as always is still living on future potential. Whenever a discussion about the consoles come up the PS3 arguments are usually among the lines of "Look at all these games that will be coming out" 360 Is in the point where the Ps2 was when the first X-Box and Gamecube came out. It still has a few more years left in it, and it certainly will be the most played (next to the wii of course.)console of the next few things I think.
Bungie is done with Halo because every developer eventually needs to eventually say farewell to their greatest creation (Square Enix could learn much from Bungie) and Epic Games isn't making BulletStorm, People Can Fly are actually the ones making it. (they're a Polish studio owned by Epic) Plus CliffyB is doing something most developers don't do; he's not overdoing it by making too many games for one series. In three Gears of War games Epic will have accomplished that which it set out to do: make a series of awesome games, tell a half-decent story and leave people wanting more from Epic.migo said:
So you see they're not "quitting while they're ahead", they're just simply finishing what needs to be finished. Ending a good series is praiseworthy, not something your insult a developer over.
By all rights the next one "should" start soon, as since 1985 there hasn't been more than 5 years between a console of one generation being newly released and the next one being released.Vanguard_Ex said:
But companies have invested so much in this generation and all are pretty well each in their own way, I don't think anybody wants to reset.
Normally what triggered the next generation was a platform lagging behind wanting to regain market share with newer and more powerful system. But today, there are many more options than that and not just releasing new peripherals. Considering the market leader, the wii, is a whole generation weaker, this discourages ANY company wanting to try to get ahead with more expensive and more powerful hardware as that won't be "following the leader".
So in a way the next gen HAS started with these new motion controls if the next generation is not about hardware processing power but new motion controls.
If I can trick someone to buy shit by convincing them it s chocolate... just because they buy it that shit doesn't magically turn into chocolate.Snarky Username said:
Microsoft blows hundreds of millions of marketing and the way Xbox locks in their users they also have generated millions of rabid fanboys to always vigorously defend it in online discussions. This prevents any popular backlash ever gaining any significant momentum.
I said as I have said before: I think the console is "done" in terms of a system really worth caring about, but that doesn't mean everyone else does. See it is NOT dying, I never said it was, I think if anything I'd call the platform undead, devoid of any soul it continues trudging on lost, unthinking and now almost impossible to kill.
The problem I am seeing is the UTTER contrast in how Japanese and Western console companies approach consoles. In Japan there is the INCREDIBLY powerful idea that if you simply make the best product and best service at the best price for the consumer you will find success... utter deference, respect and care for consumer satisfaction. It is the capitalistic ideal that dragged them out of the poverty of World War 2.
Sony has earnestly put as high a specifications into the PS3 and at as low a price as they dare to sell it at while also investing in so many simultaneous development studios
Microsoft is NOT looking at this from a technological imperative perspective but business wheeling and dealing perspective... they want money for nothing. Like have an ultra low price entry model then a thousand dollars on top for accessories, subscriptions and repair/replacement costs. THAT is why 360 has sold so poorly in Japan as the average consumer IS a technophile, they can see right through Microsoft's bullshit, they don't fall for concealing costs by "only X dollars per day" they can tell that adds up to Hundreds of dollars over the years.
You say they're not quitting while they're ahead, but the parts I bolded show you're actually agreeing with me. You're just in awe of them so you want to present it differently. The fact is the more they make those games the more people will realise their shortcomings. People already realised it with Halo 3 - that's why the series is already getting a lot of flak despite the fans. People are also twigging it on Gears of War - there's a much better way to do the game overall. It's a great concept, but concept doesn't get you far.MercurySteam said:
The big reasons to get a 360 are the back catalog, not the forthcoming games. The early exclusives that never got ported (Dead Rising) and that were too graphically advanced to run on current PCs of the time, and the early multiplatform games that had the 360 as a lead platform or were just generally handled badly on the PS3 (Bioshock). For the rest of it, right now, there's a huge overlap in 360 and Windows games, with far more and better Windows exclusives than 360 exclusives. A bunch of the games, such as Batman Arkham Asylum, were clearly designed with a keyboard and mouse in mind, as is evident in pressing A to run, and for those games that were designed with the 360 as a lead platform there's always the ability to use the 360 controller - or any other one.
The strong titles for the 360 are the ones with system link and split screen support, and there's a huge number of them from 2005 to 2007, but from 2008 on the feature became less and less prominent and is almost entirely missing now. A 360 is a bit more portable than a PC, so it's handy for LAN parties in that aspect, particularly since you need just 2 systems and 2 screens to handle 8 players for a number of games. For modern games though, you rarely get spliscreen and multiplayer requires Xbox Live. If you look at the cost of a 360 now it's $300 for the system, $80 for a 3 year product service plan, $240 for 4 years of Xbox Live Gold, putting you at $620. For $600 you can build a triple core system with 4 gigs of RAM and a DirectX 11 GPU. There's simply no value left in the 360, compared to 4 years ago when it would take a $2000 system at least to provide comparable performance. The PS3 is also a better value since the $300 you spend is just $300, nothing more, and it'll last you 8 to 10 years, while the 360 will die within a year of leaving the warranty period.
The 360 is still being sold, but so is the PS2. It's a last gen system that still gets support, but the only current gen system still in the running is the PS3, and of course the PC.
I'm sorry but I just have to disagree.Garak73 said:
I think the new design is great but not that many people who don't have a 360 already would buy it because of the new design, it doesn't really change much.
I don't know about other countries but in Australia there was no marketing for it whatsoever outside of store promo's.
I don't know what you mean about the new controller design, if you mean the D-pad spinning and changing from an x to a disc... What?!
How will that affect anyone outside of die hard, fight gamers. I'm sorry but I don't see how that would convince anyone to buy a 360.
Also, if the only way to go is down, then it is by definition at the pinnicle. Therefore, your supposition that it's dying is false.
Just putting it out there.
Oh and the post below the one I quoted mentions Wii 2 heralding the next gen of consoles. Ha!
If anything the Wii 2 would be Nintendo catching up hardware wise to the rest of the current gen.
I see what you're saying, but the thing that I'm arguing is whether the XBox is done as a selling console, which it is most definitely not. The point is not whether the XBox is shit or chocolate, but whether or not Microsoft can sell that shit/chocolate. I see what you're saying with the PS3 and to be honest, I agree with it. But the question is whether the XBox will have staying power on the market, and you have to admit that it does, for better or for worse. From a technological standpoint, though, I agree with you completely. Sony, in my eyes, is much more concerned about quality and customer satisfaction than Microsoft, but Microsoft has a cheaper product that most consumers are satisfied buying.Treblaine said:
mass effect 2 wasnt 360 exclusive unless my pc is a 360 with keyboard and mouse...and better graphics but seriously though a fair few of the 360's exclusives are also on the pc so no the ps3 joining the me2 bandwagon is not going to kill the 360