Poll: It is foolish to expect a decent single-player campaign in an FPS.

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iLikeHippos

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I like how there's more 'meh' than 'yes' in the poll.

As for FPS... Just what KIND of FPS have you been playing to find the stories bad? I can't see it, as I stay away from the 'hardcore' ones.
 

emeraldrafael

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Disagree. your Campaign should be the intro to your Multiplayer, and should be good. Not only that, but it should be good, because not everyone has access for multiplayer, except split screen (thats why I believe all games should have splitscreen too).
 

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Digitaldreamer7 said:
Do it right, or don't do it at all is my opinion.
I completely agree. I tend to prefer single-player over multiplayer, but I don't want developers to tack on a weak story just so they can say they have one.
 

Spencer Petersen

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Jedihunter4 said:
Call of duty black ops single player was a fun campagain an decently written, an that's one you you use as an example, so tbh i don't know what the hell your talking about? you want a FPS with a half arsed single player play the console version of battle field 2, that's half arsed, not attachment, nothing felt empty. People are too critical, in a FPS is two main criteria 1 fun shooting shit 2 some kl situations. everything eles is a bonus, in a FPS i want to shoot stuff, its in the genre name!
Black Ops was atrociously written without any real antagonist. The campaign is scripted to the point of absurdity, with much of the gameplay feeling like a glorified quicktime event. The "twist" ending undermines almost all the actions you took in the story, and the gun-waving, straight-faced patriotism was sickeningly overdone many times. It was too short, required very little player input, and for a game called "Black Ops" it had almost no stealth requirement.

Overall, if a company wants to build a Multiplayer game, build a fucking Multiplayer game. Don't divide your resources between a poorly designed single player and poorly designed Multiplayer. If you want to provide a single player experience for your offline audience, then make it worthwhile, not just an introduction to shooter mechanics for your multiplayer.

The problem comes from the act that most shooters that comes out today are built on a gimmick. MW2 had the gimmick of ultra-modern weaponry. BLOPS had the gimmick of being based in an era of secret wars and top-secret weaponry. Homefront was based on the gimmick of the N. Korea invasion scenario. These games wouldn't make sense without the single player campaign, so a half-assed single player needs to be introduced so the multiplayer makes some sense. Really, in a game like Homefront, the only reason for the single player to exist is so you can even comprehend why N. Korea is fighting America on American soil, and even then it is conveyed rather poorly.

We need a multiplayer narrative, a reason as to why were fighting. You cant just throw us in a combat scenario and expect us to follow direction without any support or motivation. Why would I want to fight as a N. Korean soldier in the Homefront multiplayer, whats my motivation?

This is why I'm looking forward to Brink, it looks to try and actually provide reason for the multiplayer conflict beyond "kill they ass dead" with the dynamic between the Security and Resistance. WoW does this well, with the single player questlines, environments and characters affirming your belief and resolve in that what you fight for. Modern Multiplayer focused games tend to rely too much on disconnect, which never really should count as a thing in a games favor.
 

Irriduccibilli

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Its sad to see that more and more FPS games skip on the story just so they can polish the multiplayer. I prefer the singleplayer part of the games because I am that one loner guy that only plays with his friends. Its not often I dare going into the hate-filled, trash talking, squeeker screaming mayhem. I heard that Crysis 2 actually has a pretty good story and length. It should be around 12 hours long. I cant say wether the story is good or bad since I havent played it yet (DAMN YOU EU RELEASE DATES)
 

Thunderhorse31

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Spencer Petersen said:
We need a multiplayer narrative, a reason as to why were fighting. You cant just throw us in a combat scenario and expect us to follow direction without any support or motivation.
I dunno, games like Team Fortress and Timesplitters work just fine independently of a "motivation" to play them.

I'd rather have no narrative at all than one that's tacked-on. That's part of why I think Valve is so damned successful. They make single player games (Half-Life, Portal), and then they make multiplayer games (TF2, L4D). They don't smash them together and divide their resources, giving you a game that's strong in one area but weak in another.

Then again, maybe that's why we have a high opinion of them. We don't instinctively have to say "well the SP is good, but the MP is shit" or "Wow they really just threw that SP on the package didn't they?" Since there's no need to compare, we just accept the experience for what it is and enjoy it. Every other game combines them, so there's usually some disappointment over one area or the other.

Hmm...
 

EzraPound

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Flac00 said:
Disagree, its not the genre that makes bad games, its the developers. In fact, FPS's are great games by their own merit, as their gameplay is far beyond RPG's, TBS's, etc. The only problem is developers forget that gameplay isn't everything, and they don't focus on level design, story, or balance.
Yeah, FPSes are far beyond those shitty games like Civilization II and Planescape: Torment. [http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php]
 

ImprovizoR

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There are a few FPS games with good campaigns. Half-Life 1 and 2 and the episodes. If you're looking for something newer then Crysis 1 comes to mind and Call of Juarez 2. Now, Call of Juarez 2 is really good. Deus Ex is a must if you don't mind how old it is now. And I think CoD 4 and MW2 had a pretty good campaign. Short, over the top, but damn fun.
 

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PayneTrayne said:
I thought that the Halo FPSes were quite fun actually. Not the most innovative story, but it was still fun.

Also, I liked playing Left 4 Dead's campaign with bots before I learned to play with friends.

Now, go ahead and flame me for liking Halo, I know you want to.
As badly as I want to, I can't. Halo, for all that it hasn't changed in ten years, did do one thing right, it told a story.

It wasn't Mass Effect, not by a long shot, but it told a consistent, well paced story from CE to Reach and honestly, I walked away from each satisfied. I had a ton of fun with it, the story wasn't amazing, but it was engaging enough to keep me interested in it from start to finish and I honestly can't say that there was any point in it where I wanted to skip the cutscenes. Hoenstly it's everything one should expect out of what was essentially the "Summer Blockbuster" of the gaming world. It wasn't deep, it wasn't meaningful, (Unless of course you overthink the theme way too much, thanks for that, Moviebob) but damn if it wasn't fun.


On topic though, No, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a game to stand up on it's Single Player, in fact if we want games to be taken seriously as a medium then we should be putting more pressure on developers to release games that are more mature and thoughtful, something that I don't think can be accomplished right now with the current trend of "Multiplayer games with a singleplayer tacked on, because, you know, we could," that seems to be overtaking the shooter genre.
 

MAUSZX

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I think this last 3 years FPS have been falling a lot, but think about it, the thing you should be asking is WHICH GAMES CAN I EXPECT TO HAVE A DECENT SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIGN??
The answer is not in COD, or Halo, why?? because this games are focused on the multiplayer.
HalfLife 2, Bioshock, Duke Nukem Forever (will have at least 20hours of single player, that's the rumor) Buy this franchises, if you are like me that enjoy playing the single player more than the multiplayer.

If you want a game that has a great story then you should try Alan Wake(not a FPS).
 

MAUSZX

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manaman said:
Mass Effect2 was pretty much an FPS.

Which is my answer.

Now talking about strictly a shooter: Bioshock. No it's not wrong to expect a single player to be decent if they offer a single player experience.
Mass effect is a THIRD PERSON SHOOTER AND RPG. Is not First Person Shooter.
 

Thamous

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I think it depends on the game really. Some games simply weren't developed with the single player in mind, and as such one shouldn't really expect any included single player to be of excellent quality. However, games such as Homefront that tout their fantastic single player should be held to a higher standard and one should expect a much higher quality than games such as the Call of Duty series, which we all know is focused on it multiplayer.
 

Twilight_guy

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No. I'm sure if played an FPS primarily built for single player then it would put more focus on single player. Right now most popular games focus on multiplayer because that's what people want so single player gets less time.
 

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Companies aren't going to care about campaigns again until enough POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS get mad about how shitty they have become. The average MW2 player dove straight into multiplayer and maybe played the campaign when his internet went out.

I don't see any hope for military-themed shooters in the near future. Campaigns will continue to exist solely to justify the maps and sides for multiplayer
 

Tdc2182

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No it's not foolish seeing how the Modern Warfare games were both rather good campaigns (I'll let you say that MW2 was lacking, but I have not found a single player FPS to date that was better than CoD4).

But I agree. It seems like they've stopped caring.

What happened to you FPS?

Bad Company one was witty and fun, just a wreck everything in your sight. Sure, it was clunkly and the enemy AI had a 360 vision. But hey, it was fun.

Call of Duty, it seems like after your success you stopped caring. You just put out crap and crap single players because you know we can't help ourselves from that well toned multiplayer.

I... I miss you FPS single player. I want you back.