Poll: Japanese or Western Mecha?
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Yeah um...... Gundam for the win!Asturiel said:Perhaps I just havent seen enough of both but I would have to say that the Japanese mechs look cooler in my opinion, perahaps watching Gundam Wing as a child had a wee bit of an effect on my opinion, maybe
Plus Japan wins because of the life sized gundam model they made.
Why is there no option for a Korean one? They actually have(errr, plan to have) a real one guarding the international airport (bigger than the one in Japan just to start robot wars =]). I'd take that any day.MystRunner said:Yeah um...... Gundam for the win!Asturiel said:Perhaps I just havent seen enough of both but I would have to say that the Japanese mechs look cooler in my opinion, perahaps watching Gundam Wing as a child had a wee bit of an effect on my opinion, maybe
Plus Japan wins because of the life sized gundam model they made.
Ouch. When considering any mech, Western or Japanese, you're already flouting the square-cube law, and at least a few other points. We're talking degrees of suspension of disbelief.Xom said:
That said, are there any shows or movies based around combat with walking tanks? It seems kinda anti-dynamic. But then I suppose you could look at it as a challenge rather than a limitation.
You lost me there, because that sounds like a description of MechWarrior -- particularly, that MechWarrior 5 combat trailer, or the MechWarrior 2 intro (substituting terrain for buildings).JohnReaper said:
both really have rather defining aspects. Japanese mechas are a bit more agile and faster, Western are known for their defining strength and intimidating size.
Umm...ok. Heard of the Hatchetman? I'll admit, it was the only canon mech in the battletech universe to carry a melee weapon, and all it really was ended up being a giant frigging axe on one arm instead of another gun. (To those who don't know, take a Mid-mech, add the giant axe on the right arm, an autocannon on the left, mount a few medium lasers on the torso, and load the thing up with armor like you wouldn't believe for the weight class.) And I do know that it wasn't used much outside of arena fights (in canon, anyhow) because it wasn't practical, but neither was the Firestarter. Or the Raven, for that matter. Those birds were horrible once you got inside LRM range...TheMadTypist said:
Actually...you're right. Nobody carried melee weapons. I just got lazy, misread the post, and went on a tanget about the silliest design I've ever come across on a western mech. Well...the silliest outside of Gungriffon Blaze, that is.
It's a close call for me. I like the fantastical Japanese Mechs, but I can never fully suspend disbelief when watching them. I always know that what's on screen is make-believe and will never happen and mechs wouldn't be able to jump like that and what's the point of having a sword on a walking tank and...so on. It's fun to watch but there is always that problem
On a western mech I can see the logic behind the design. It's on legs to have better maneuverability on rough terrain and the arms are there to be able to manipulate complex objects and of course you'd cram as many guns as would be possible on it.
Japanese Mechs often just seem like giant people, and they never seem to have enough guns. Swords and...Scythes...sure, but not as many direct GUNS.
On a western mech I can see the logic behind the design. It's on legs to have better maneuverability on rough terrain and the arms are there to be able to manipulate complex objects and of course you'd cram as many guns as would be possible on it.
Japanese Mechs often just seem like giant people, and they never seem to have enough guns. Swords and...Scythes...sure, but not as many direct GUNS.
My vote goes for wester mechs... I mean, the Japanese mechs always seem to follow the gundam look. I have never seen a mech in an anime that didn't just scream "GUNDAM!".
I mean, western mechs have all these:
EDIT: Although, I will have to say that I love the Tachikoma robots from Ghost in the Shell, but they don't count..
I mean, western mechs have all these:
EDIT: Although, I will have to say that I love the Tachikoma robots from Ghost in the Shell, but they don't count..
I'm not sure how to interpret that other than as a rejection of my statement. I disagree, so I resubmit as evidence the two referenced videos:Xom said:
Anoctris said:
Both of these are obviously "Combat," and considering that said combat is point-blank face-to-face, I think it would be fair to call it "Close Quarters." Also present, we have in the MW2 video two mechs concealing themselves behind rocks (proxy buildings), and one briefly taking cover from machinegun fire. In the MW5 trailer, we again have two mechs concealing themselves behind buildings, and the "self" mech takes cover behind buildings more than once.
This seems quite clear to me, so perhaps your concern was that in gameplay combat could or even often did occur at significant range (though with CQC situations). But this is also true of Japanese-style combat, so the point is moot.
Variable Fighters, Gundams, Arm Slaves, Orbital Frames, Armored Cores, Metal Gears, Big O, Gurren Lagann, Ideon. They're all so much cooler (and powerful) than anything the west has to throw at them.
C'mon, Megas? Transformers? Warhammer?! Seriously...
C'mon, Megas? Transformers? Warhammer?! Seriously...
A: What kind of mech anime have you even seen if you think it all looks like gundam? Ever seen Macross (or that American rape of it called Robotech)? Ever seen an Orbital Frame? Ever played Metal Gear for that matter? You'll actually be hardpressed to find the Gundam look. Even Gundam itself has created mechs don't look anything like gundams.IxionIndustries said:
B: Why don't tachikomas count? Just a scaled down version of other multiped tanks.
