Poll: Kid Banned From Scoring For Being Too Awsome
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I really thought this was going to be a thread about a child who was booted from a server for using cheat codes and didn't want to admit it.SacremPyrobolum said:
Get 'em while they're young!
Let 'em know that you don't want to stand out too much, or excell too well beyond your peers.
It's not strict at all. This looks like a good balance of "allowing excellence" and "promoting teamwork".
Specifically, if the team actually uses team plays beyond "Pass it to Demias", then the restriction probably will never be reached.
Specifically, if the team actually uses team plays beyond "Pass it to Demias", then the restriction probably will never be reached.
We're in the day and age where everybody has to be included evenly even if they suck or really good. This been done in classrooms for years you have to really talented ones, you got the middle ground and you got low tier. You can't build up the lower players if they don't show talent because not everybody is good a certain sports. I'll use myself as an example I sucked at basketball while most people in my high school gym class were good, really good. Yet when it came down to soccer, football, dodgeball, baseball that's where I really stood out I showed talent in those games. Yet these days parents expects their kids to be godlike at everything. I hate this mentality because you're just BS'ing the child. Let'em find what they're good at and build up their talents from there. Don't gimp the great because the others suck, hell they need to observe that good player and try to mimic what he does instead of having him benched.Rem45 said:
After reading the article, I must say it's fair.
Why?
Because everyone besides this kid is still in the process of developing their core skills. And they won't get to do that if this kid keeps practicing/playing with them. He should, though, be allowed to continue to play, but in a different team.
Why?
Because everyone besides this kid is still in the process of developing their core skills. And they won't get to do that if this kid keeps practicing/playing with them. He should, though, be allowed to continue to play, but in a different team.
Pft that kid is loving it. "Dude I was so good they had to add rules to the game to give the other kids a fair chance. Hahaha."
It's dumb, but as long as you spin it the right way it can be healthy for his ego.
On that note, why is he not being moved into a higher age bracket then? Does the U.S. Not do that?
It's dumb, but as long as you spin it the right way it can be healthy for his ego.
On that note, why is he not being moved into a higher age bracket then? Does the U.S. Not do that?
I saw this on my radio stations FB page but wasnt sure if I wanted to put it up.
Anyway, I commented on the youtube video of it. But since I cant find it now, I'll just post what I htink i said and hope it comes out similarly enough.
I think its wrong. They've beaten the kid down and said yeah, youre better then everyone else, so we're going to hold you back. You're retarding his potential, even if its just for a few years. Competition breeds better things, and by removing it, or having people say you should practice a little harder, so you can all be like ____________ (something jackson), instead of just "Oh no, he's better then everyone, we cant let people tihnk tehy're better then everyone.
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BUt I dont know. this may just be a kids league, and yeah everyone needs to play or else the parents will ***** and say my kid isnt getting enough time. my church basketball league was like that through regular season, where every player had to have 6 minutes out of the 60. So when you had players like me, who couldnt shoot for crap but where good for getting the ball down court, you had to think of when to use them so they didnt realize they sucked (though it was pretty obvious to me). During the playoffs, you were free to bench someone an entire game (though my coach was always good about it and let me play 6 minutes of every game. but I've seen teams where kids who were over weight or just not as good as the others would sit the entire game). So I get that. I just dont think he should be limited from doing what hes good at. Maybe not through to him too much and make the other kids carry their weight. whiel still letting him play.
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Anyway, I commented on the youtube video of it. But since I cant find it now, I'll just post what I htink i said and hope it comes out similarly enough.
I think its wrong. They've beaten the kid down and said yeah, youre better then everyone else, so we're going to hold you back. You're retarding his potential, even if its just for a few years. Competition breeds better things, and by removing it, or having people say you should practice a little harder, so you can all be like ____________ (something jackson), instead of just "Oh no, he's better then everyone, we cant let people tihnk tehy're better then everyone.
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BUt I dont know. this may just be a kids league, and yeah everyone needs to play or else the parents will ***** and say my kid isnt getting enough time. my church basketball league was like that through regular season, where every player had to have 6 minutes out of the 60. So when you had players like me, who couldnt shoot for crap but where good for getting the ball down court, you had to think of when to use them so they didnt realize they sucked (though it was pretty obvious to me). During the playoffs, you were free to bench someone an entire game (though my coach was always good about it and let me play 6 minutes of every game. but I've seen teams where kids who were over weight or just not as good as the others would sit the entire game). So I get that. I just dont think he should be limited from doing what hes good at. Maybe not through to him too much and make the other kids carry their weight. whiel still letting him play.
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In a way thats what a grade curve is.azzxl said:
We had to do that before, our rugby team was very strong and against several teams we were told to artificially limit ourselves. On the one hand, yeah it's embarrassing to have your arse handed to you. On the other hand you don't punish excellence. We were a GREAT team, we were simply stronger, faster and technically far superior. Punishing us for that is ridiculous and it annoyed us all.
So, maybe hint at him to cool it down but no, don't hold him back.
So, maybe hint at him to cool it down but no, don't hold him back.
I'm ok with this rule tbh, I've seen it happen in grade school sports where one team is just so good the other team just gives up and doesn't care.
I remember for one year my gradeschool basketball team was just insanely good, ended up leading games by like 20-30 points and the other team just stopped playing. The point of gradeschool games is to let kids have fun, and when a team just gives up its no longer a fun game.
I remember for one year my gradeschool basketball team was just insanely good, ended up leading games by like 20-30 points and the other team just stopped playing. The point of gradeschool games is to let kids have fun, and when a team just gives up its no longer a fun game.
I disagree with this, with an apology to all the left wingers on these forums, school is supposed to be about education and competition, not self validation. The fact that the kid is better than they are does not mean he should be held back. What's more it sends the wrong message to the kids getting stomped, because later in life nobody is going to hold the other guy back to make it fair when they are after the same thing you are.
What's more one of the problems with the school system is telling kids that they are "special" and "can do anything" and providing a positive enviroment to nuture that. Kids grow up unprepared to deal with the fact that they are some poor schlub, who is never going anywhere, and it turns to resentment, depression, and anger whichs leads to a lot of problems for the person involved, and society in general. With all the testing and such in schools I think kids need to be groomed with realistic expectations right from the beginning, with validation in proportion to their actual accomplishments and potential. 11 years old is definatly old enough to be giving those messages.
This kind of competition should inspire the other players to rise to the challenge, those that can't are both learning something about their capabilities, and demonstrating them to others. Hell, I wonder how many kids have had their lives destroyed because they pursued dreams of playing for the NBA/NFL/NHL or whatever because teachers grilled it into their head that they could "do anything" and "not to give up" when they just didn't have that kind of talent.
What's more one of the problems with the school system is telling kids that they are "special" and "can do anything" and providing a positive enviroment to nuture that. Kids grow up unprepared to deal with the fact that they are some poor schlub, who is never going anywhere, and it turns to resentment, depression, and anger whichs leads to a lot of problems for the person involved, and society in general. With all the testing and such in schools I think kids need to be groomed with realistic expectations right from the beginning, with validation in proportion to their actual accomplishments and potential. 11 years old is definatly old enough to be giving those messages.
This kind of competition should inspire the other players to rise to the challenge, those that can't are both learning something about their capabilities, and demonstrating them to others. Hell, I wonder how many kids have had their lives destroyed because they pursued dreams of playing for the NBA/NFL/NHL or whatever because teachers grilled it into their head that they could "do anything" and "not to give up" when they just didn't have that kind of talent.
I understand why they instituted the rule, I was the quarterback for my high school and am currently the quarterback for a semi-pro team. I have been on both ends of the beat down spectrum, worst loss was 77-17 and best win was 70-10. Losing by a huge margin like that can extremely demoralize everyone on the team (I can only imagine what it would feel like if I were only 11 years old.) Also when you win by a huge margin you start to fell like a jackass, when my team is up by 40+ points our running backs start taking knees and I'll intentionally mis-throw to my wide recievers. So again I understand why the rule is in place, but as to if it's fair, that's up for debate.
This. Isn't the point of school (particularly at that age) to encourage, foster and inspire talent?azzxl said:
The major appeal of sports, regardless of age, is that everyone has to play by the same rules - causing dedication, ability and (where applicable) team cohesion to define.
Furthermore, the grades hypothetical works very well here in the UK, since grade boundaries (what percentage you need to get a specific letter grade) are moderated based on the average for everyone taking the exam. Arbitrarily handicapping someone who is gifted/diligent/lucky lowers the bar for everyone else, hurting anyone who attempts to make any judgment (eg: regarding employment) based on their grades. This devalues the whole process.
Usually I'm against this sort of thing and if this was academia I certainly would be, but given the context of the rule, the age of the players, and the allowances that are made, I'm fine with it.
Basically, if this kid can take the ball and run it into the endzone every single time, at 11 years old that's just pure natural ability and his growth isn't going to be stunted by limiting him to 3 touch downs a game. His important development time is still a few years away, he has all the time in the world to become a star. And like others said it makes a good story for him.
Basically, if this kid can take the ball and run it into the endzone every single time, at 11 years old that's just pure natural ability and his growth isn't going to be stunted by limiting him to 3 touch downs a game. His important development time is still a few years away, he has all the time in the world to become a star. And like others said it makes a good story for him.
I also see both sides of this. on the one hand, you are stiffing a talent just because he makes everyone else look like scrubs.silverbear002 said:
But on the other hand, by instituting this rule, his school admitted that he makes everyone else look like scrubs. I don't know about you but if the president of my uni came to me and said I could only write 2 papers a semester because i was embarrassing all my classmates, i would be ok with it.
So far I haven't seen a post chastising the Arkansas school for trying to hold back a black kid by reinstating a rule they used two decades ago to hold back another black kid, and questioning if the situation would be the same if the two had been white.
This is that post.
This is that post.