Poll: Kill one, save millions: A Question of Morals.
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Holy crap, I know that. I was just saying that "no question about it" is a stupid thing to say. In no way would anyone ever know that millions of people would die if you didn't kill this guy. The question is as moot as it gets. Nobody sane would kill the guy because there are always other ways to deal with situations. Nothing is as simple as "there are two and only two options." That's what makes Two-Face fukken crazy.XMark said:
No I wouldn't, I don't have any context to judge the situation so killing this person would be very irresponsible.
On the other hand pay me enough money and I would kill him.
On the other hand pay me enough money and I would kill him.
Kill a stranger to save a million? Yes
Kill my father/mother/sister to save a million? Yes, barely
Kill the love of my life to save a million? Still undecided about that
That is in theory though, I can't know for sure until I'm in such a position (heaven forbid). Killing a family member would be really hard, and though I'd want to do it, I'm not sure I'd manage to. I'm somehow doubting I'd manage to kill the love of my life.
You know, I once read that some scientist had found that a normally functioning brain would not allow you to kill one to save many more, and the ability to do so should actually be considered some kind of brain damage. I'm not sure whether to believe that or not - especially considering how many answered yes in the poll.
Kill my father/mother/sister to save a million? Yes, barely
Kill the love of my life to save a million? Still undecided about that
That is in theory though, I can't know for sure until I'm in such a position (heaven forbid). Killing a family member would be really hard, and though I'd want to do it, I'm not sure I'd manage to. I'm somehow doubting I'd manage to kill the love of my life.
You know, I once read that some scientist had found that a normally functioning brain would not allow you to kill one to save many more, and the ability to do so should actually be considered some kind of brain damage. I'm not sure whether to believe that or not - especially considering how many answered yes in the poll.
Out of curiosity, what if there was a situation where A) the stranger or B) the family member was not actually responsible for killin a million. I can't think of a proper scenario, but let's say they are completely ignorant of what is going on, but killing them will still save all those lives. What would your answer be then?SilverUchiha said:
Yes, I see the issue here. It depends on how directly you actually kill the guy. Pushing him off you will touch him and you would hear his scream, and I must admit I'd much rather pull the lever - or even shoot him with a gun.Scorp123 said:
Here is another one. On one boat is thirty doctors on their way to a conference, on another is 50 criminals and 5 guards, who are to be moved to a different prison. Both run towards a waterfall, and it is only possible to save one of the boats. Which one do you choose?
No. I would not shoot the unknown guy in front of me, especially since i dont now him, i got no proof, he cant defend himself (does he talk? does he cry? Laugh? Does he listen to celine dion?)... nor would i shoot any random person in front of me for any reason than someone ask me to "shoot him, you must for XYZ obscure reason".Instant K4rma said:
The gun,.. what is it? A pistol? sniper rifle? A 400mm naval artillery gun? An orbital lazer? Distance matter. THe farther you are, the better. Even better if you order someone else to pull the trigger for you.
Im aware of the Milgram's experiment and the fact that people tend to obey authority (when some factors are used, suprisingly effective, also, scary as hell).
Im also aware they could have shot him themselves hours ago... especially if it would save "millions", so why didnt they do it already? Its obviously a trap.
Who is doing the "asking", your dad? the president ? a lab scientist? A military general? Superman?
Basically, your example is too vague and too open. Would we shoot a random unknown person when asked, for a baseless, unproven reason?
Im more likely to shoot the person/s asking me to do that.
I wouldn't believe the people who told me that killing him would save millions and so, no.
If I knew this to be true, probably also no.
If I knew this to be true, probably also no.
Assuming that I knew that the man was telling me the truth, I believe that I could pull the trigger and murder a stranger for the greater good of millions.
I would not kill a family member or a close friend to save those same millions however.
Strange how that works.
I think the key is that the man your about to shoot is a complete stranger.
The greater good is more important after all.
I would not kill a family member or a close friend to save those same millions however.
Strange how that works.
I think the key is that the man your about to shoot is a complete stranger.
Easy, the doctors get to live.WaderiAAA said:
The greater good is more important after all.
I guess it just comes down to.. 'where does it end?'
Would he really be the only one to die? I just doubt that...
Killing a person, an individual, is not something that should be taken lightly. We are, each of us, a multitude.
A loss of life is always a tragic thing, even if it benefits many.
I would like to have time to think about it.
Ultimately, I think I would do it
Would he really be the only one to die? I just doubt that...
Killing a person, an individual, is not something that should be taken lightly. We are, each of us, a multitude.
A loss of life is always a tragic thing, even if it benefits many.
I would like to have time to think about it.
Ultimately, I think I would do it
A couple of questions:
1. Who told me that if I shoot him I will save millions?
2. Who is the guy I'm supposed to shoot?
3. How will killing him save millions?
4. Why am I, of all people, given such a task?
5. What makes you think that I am sane enough to make the right choice?
6. How do I even know that you're sane enough?
7. Maybe you can do something that doesn't involve killing someone?
8. Wouldn't it be better to shoot his legs and take him prisoner?
9. What would Jesus do?
10. Hello?
11. Anyone out there?
12. No?
13. I'll be going then, bye!
1. Who told me that if I shoot him I will save millions?
2. Who is the guy I'm supposed to shoot?
3. How will killing him save millions?
4. Why am I, of all people, given such a task?
5. What makes you think that I am sane enough to make the right choice?
6. How do I even know that you're sane enough?
7. Maybe you can do something that doesn't involve killing someone?
8. Wouldn't it be better to shoot his legs and take him prisoner?
9. What would Jesus do?
10. Hello?
11. Anyone out there?
12. No?
13. I'll be going then, bye!
