Poll: lack of cheat codes in most games

[cyber_andyy]

Cheats are being replaced with the console. Which is actually more intertaning if you know the right commands, as thats all a cheat code does, imput a command into the console.

 

[THEMANWHOIS]

I still have a lot of fun popping in Goldeneye and shooting big-headed Russians with what appears to be paintball pellets coming out of an extremely powerful magnum with infinite ammo. I play games to have fun. If cheats provide that, what's the problem?

 

[onioftheash]

cheats were made when games were so hard you played till your eyes bled and you fingers fell off now there is really no need for them what with save points and checkpoints you can just pick up were you died like 10 minutes ago

 

[MiracleOfSound]

They're not morally right or wrong, so I won't vote.
But cheats can make the game more fun. I enjoyed going on endless rampages in GTA: SA with cheats, for instance. Spawning a jet to make my getaway was always pleasing.

In a sandbox style game where a lot of the focus is on fun rather than challenge, then cheats are a good thing.

When used to overcome a challenge.. well then you're just not challenging yourself and feel a little dirty. The only game I had to use cheats for to beat was San Andreas. that ************ was insanely tough at times and the slow mo was the only way I could get past one off road race...

I never used cheats to actually beat parts of the game, I don't think.

Then you are either a gifted gamer or a very persistent one... those flying missions were hell!

 

[LisaB1138]

Using cheats in an online setting is . . . really cheating. You're not playing fair.

Using cheats in a single gamer situation? Who cares? It's your game, have fun.

 

[coldfrog]

Cheats, as they are commonly known, are actually testing tools, allowing game developers to jump to specific areas of a game or test specific features without having to dedicate hours of time to completing previous levels, or worrying about enemies killing them.

When I was working on Prototype, the designers were able to take me to any level and load up my weapons so that I could test them all.

In previous generations it just wasn't practical to adjust the code to remove cheats before release. Modern game development allows for testing tools and testing code that are isolated from the core game, making them much more easy to remove.

Cheats are often included as an homage to classic game culture, a decadence a lot of developers don't have the time, resources, or inclination to include. The new "cheat" is unlockables which are all too common in modern games, and rarely offer enough to re-play most titles. (OK, that last bit is an opinion, but the rest is actual factual)

Yeah programmers! With the advent of the modern computer language and object oriented programming testing is much easier... I've never tried to study how they used to make them but I imagine it was far more difficult than it is nowadays. I'm working on a C# adventure game framework right now, it's so simple when you've got classes to work with... Ah, programming. My second love.

In any case, my take on the whole cheat thing is, it makes it less fun for me so I will never use them, just like guides and walkthroughs, but as long as you have fun with the game it's all up to you. Do what you like as long as it doesn't hurt any other players (you know who you are, online cheaters!)

 

[orangebandguy]

I only use cheats AFTER I beat the game, do fun if there's no challenge.

 

[Video Gone]

Cheats are great if they're cheats like in the old days,like in San Andreas,Vice City,GTA 3,those kind of cheats,y'know?I'm sad that they're dying.

 

[Valkyira]

I think that cheats are fine once you have completed the game and got the most of it. It is true that cheats show us things that we may not know, they can also make the game more fun. Like the GTA cheats to spawn various vehicles and weapons. I don't like the cheats that unlock things early because you should work for them, if you just get them without doing anything your not achieving anything

 

[new_age_reject]

I like the cheats that give the characters big heads and stupid stuff like that, they can make the game more fun!

 

[vamp rocks]

i will play games and beat them and then go back through and have fun... or in the case of modern-nes... lol i will get all the achievements then go back through...

 

[Kogarian]

Some cheatcodes definately made the game more interesting. I don't see what the problem is.

 

[jonnopon3000]

Using cheats is OK, I think. However, using them and saying you're good at the game isn't. Personally, I don't really use cheats, unless you count using an online walkthrough to get help on the last part of the Thieve's Guild questline in Oblivion, or whatever. However, I occasionally cheat for the fun of it. There's a certain satisfaction to be had seeing a Ford Mondeo (or whatever car it is) driving around the Japanese countryside with a laser killing people from a time about 2000 years before cars were even invented...

If you can guess the game then you get a cookie

Age of empires
Am i right or am i wrong?

please tell me i'm right, i REALLY want that cookie...

 

[Trivun]

Yep. Someone else PMed me to ask, so they don't get the cookie. You do, however, but it's chocolate chip so I really hope you like it, since I ate all the others...

 

[jonnopon3000]

Oh YEH!!!

I could make a living out of this......

 

[likalaruku]

I've noticed too. I'm not good at strategy, so I usualy play in cheat mode the first time around so I know where all the suprises are & then play regularly. If I'm still not bored, I'll play again at higher difficulty. It's understandable that someone with no respect for authority would not like to be challenged. Haha. Plus, if I didn't cheat in Serious Sam 2, I'd have 50 guys on my ass all at once with a grossly unfair advantage against me. Then there's those levels with unexpected difficulty curves that you play over & over again but still can't pass. Damn you, Psychonauts! Lastly, there is the all-too-rare easteregg you can only access by cheating, like in Diablo.

 

[Taylorcrw]

I play games to have as much fun as possible, so yes I use cheats on any game that has them.

 

[Rational-Delirium]

What's your problem with walkthroughs? I pay good money for all my books and I use them regularly. They do more then just tell you what to do. They also provide helpful and vital tips and strategies for those extra hard modes.

I don't have anything against walkthroughs, not at least the ones that come in a book. I've found them very helpful as well, take Jak 2 and Oblivion for example. What I'm warning against is using them less as a guide and more as a crutch. It's just more rewarding knowing that you beat a hard part all by yourself without any help on how to do it; that's all I'm saying here.