Poll: Ladies and Gentlemen, a hypothetical situation concerning homosexuality in games

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Treblaine

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Beats the hell out of the usual standard of the protagonist having virtually no sexuality at all.

But then again I am a big fan of Half life style storytelling in games where you don't give to protagonist so much a personality as a basic persona that you can easily inhabit. It's hard to "role-play" saviour of the universe while your character is doing things you may not do yourself. Even if you would have done them, you don't get the feeling they are YOUR decisions.

I don't mean rigidly stick to a 1st person perspective, but don't have the character say or do anything that you didn't directly initiate. You character doesn't necessarily have to be silent, but they shouldn't say anything that the player doesn't at least consent to. Body language would have to be quite neutral.

Then again it would be interesting in a game like Half Life 2, perhaps you could have the choice to choose, will your partner be an Alyx or Alexander? Perhaps it could tempt the (bi)curious?

Maybe the game could just give you no choice but an Alexander, a guy who does "find you cute" and I think it would be an interesting experience, for gay players but also for straight players in interacting with gay characters who aren't just there to act camp and make lame jokes. Ah well, it can't e any more not as awkward than it must be for straight women who play Half life 2 and have to have Alyx look lovingly into their eyes and say "ohhh, Doctor Freeman". Doesn't seem the MOST platonic relationship, they seem to be more than just friends. Course I like it.

I realise now why Lara Croft never shacked up with a guy, because most of the people playing her are straight males, and to an extent they feel like they are her. Would they really like to do it with a guy? Maybe that's why Lara acts so weird sometimes, not just because she is an artificial creation of mostly men, but because she is made mainly for men to fulfil the ultimate cross dressing fantasy, they want to be a woman physically but want to retain the male mentality and continue acting like a man.
Though then again there is the "remote control car" viewpoint that Lara is just a "toy" to be driven around some caves, but I don't follow that perspective, I don't get a sense of freedom ordering something or someone else to jump around pyramids, I project myself onto Lara.

I think this same effect is seen in Mirror's Edge, which tries hard to get you immersed in the role of this young feminine woman... yet as far as I know she remains completely asexual, because as much as straight female and gay males gamers may have liked effectively forming an intimate relationship with a guy... straight male gamers (an I guess lesbians too) would have found it awkward and could only have gone along with it as a joke.
 

belderiver

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Mattallica said:
As long as he wasn't just gay for the sake of it, then I'd have no problem with it.
Gay for the sake of it? What, should it because someone burned down his peasant village or something? I'm pretty sure most IRL gayness is "for the sake of it."
 

lacktheknack

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It depends. Heterosexual or homosexual, it doesn't matter until it gets explicit, then in both cases, I don't like it.
 

drzoidbergmd

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It would certainly liven things up just a little bit. Homosexuality really isn't a big deal to me. The only way it would affect my purchase or non-purchase was that I might buy it to see if its any good.
 

Susan Arendt

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Why on earth would I possibly care? If the game involves a romance, so long as it's a solid one, I couldn't possibly less what bits are hitting what bits. And if it's not a solid one, it won't matter much who's doing what to whom, it's still going to be cringeworthy.

And let's be honest - hetero or homo, until the uncanny valley issue is solved, any boot-knocking we see is going to be hella awkward.

If there's no romance involved, then it really doesn't matter who the main character wants to get in bed, now does it?
 
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See there's a problem here.

If the character was homosexual, no problem, possibly even quite interesting; but there's no real way of it altering the story without it distorting the basic aspects of the game.

Have you ever played a game where you're certain of the Protagonist's sexuality? After however many years you've been alive, can you even be certain of your own?

What, really, differentiates a homosexual and a heterosexual character apart from what they desire to sleep/romance? And if you just have that, then isn't that itself just a railroad?

Especially if you think of all the characters in the past that have had purely single sex characters. What makes you think that Jak and Daxter, for instance, don't fancy each other? Keira's meant to be the love interest but...

And did anyone ever play this game?

Two thin, well-dressed guys - in tight clothes - and a big hairy guy wrestle lots of other guys in uniforms in toilets. Apart from the one on the left, who's a transgender. There's subtext and then there's bold, italic, underlined subtext.
 

thirdsonsaburo

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
See there's a problem here.

If the character was homosexual, no problem, possibly even quite interesting; but there's no real way of it altering the story without it distorting the basic aspects of the game.

Have you ever played a game where you're certain of the Protagonist's sexuality? After however many years you've been alive, can you even be certain of your own?

What, really, differentiates a homosexual and a heterosexual character apart from what they desire to sleep/romance? And if you just have that, then isn't that itself just a railroad?

Especially if you think of all the characters in the past that have had purely single sex characters. What makes you think that Jak and Daxter, for instance, don't fancy each other? Keira's meant to be the love interest but...

And did anyone ever play this game?

Two thin, well-dressed guys - in tight clothes - and a big hairy guy wrestle lots of other guys in uniforms in toilets. Apart from the one on the left, who's a transgender. There's subtext and then there's bold, italic, underlined subtext.
She's only transsexual in the US version, though. The change was made, pretty infamously, because the ones adapting the game for the Western world didn't think it was kosher to hit girls.

...because it's so much better to beat up transwomen who haven't fully transitioned yet. Right.
 

darkkan2125

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to me it would depend on the setting of the game but it would simply affect the immersion

ex: mass effect sure why not

dragon age no

as time goes buy people would tend to be more open to homosexuality back then you'd be burned wif fire
 

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thirdsonsaburo said:
Flames66 said:
For me, it would have a negative affect unless it didn't involve the player character. This is not because I hate gays or anything like that, it's because I am not gay and I would not be able to play as a character who is. My character in a game is a fictional representation of me so I have in the past stopped playing a game because the main character does something I would not do myself. It just breaks the immersion for me.
What if the player character had a set personality? Cloud Strife could only be so much of a "fictional representation" of the player, as he had a set personality, goals, and interests.
That's why I don't play Final Fantasy. To be immersed my character has to be an extension of myself, not me remote controlling someone else.
 

Cleverpun

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I tell myself it wouldn't matter, but I guess I don't really know until the game comes out.

There was one article here where the author talked about his half-life mod: it was full of horrible gameplay and bad plotting, but everyone focused on the one word which implied a gay main character. He also mentioned that his editor had recommended he edit his mentions of his sexual orientation from a previous article and that he agreed with it.

Clearly maturity, reader identification with the protagonist, and social mores are all in play here. Hopefully one day they won't be as big a deal.
 

MintsMan

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hehehe...
like "GTA: The Chronicle of Gay Tony" or something...
The gaming industry beat you to it
 

Dys

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I've selected it would have a negative effect, I can't see any reason why I'd care about the sexuality of a character in a third person (or for that matter, any perspective) shooter. I don't care for pretentious points, it can make sense to include homosexuality in RPGs if sexuality in general is an issue dealt with, I don't want it forced on me when I want to sit down and mindlessly blow shit up.
 

Kouen

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I Judge the game on its quality rather than sexual preference of the lead protagonist.
 

BehattedWanderer

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I wouldn't mind, as long as it isn't repeatedly forced in our face that the character is gay. We don't see our other protagonists constantly spouting "Why, yes, that is interesting, also, did I mention that I'm straight?", so it would be ridiculous for any game to do so.
 

Tdc2182

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If there was a homosexual situation in a game... I would giggle. That is all. (exits the room)
 

Snowden's Secret

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As long as the main character didn't constantly remind us of his sexuality (like John Barrowman on Doctor Who/Torchwood) i wouldn't mind at all.
Also: Hypothetical situation?! http://xkcd.com/248/
 

Regiment

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If the character's homosexuality was handled well (that is, not made into a joke), I wouldn't mind, and I might be more likely to play the game, just because it makes a statement.
 

imaloony

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One of my favorite series, the Fable series, has lots of homosexuality. I still love the games.