Eugh. Look, I only initially engaged you to find out if there was any research or information backing your opinion.Master of the Skies said:Can belong != is. If people say fantasy that is not interchangeable with aspiration. It does not denote that it is both, it only denotes one.EvilRoy said:Actually, fantasy and aspiration have a very odd relationship. Fantasies can belong to the set of all aspirations, and aspirations can belong to the set of all fantasies. That's why you need a sample size.Master of the Skies said:There's a strong enough difference between the two that a leap like that is utterly inane and rather implausible. Fact of the matter is they are *not* one and the same, that is not what the word 'fantasy' refers to.EvilRoy said:A person can aspire to a fantasy or fantasize about an aspiration. They aren't mutually exclusive.Master of the Skies said:Not in the least bit. Only if you ignore the fact that I just pointed out one has the word fantasy right in there and the other is talking about reality and try to pretend that fact doesn't apply regardless of the fact that it's only me that pointed it out.EvilRoy said:N=1, ultimately.Master of the Skies said:I don't think I need 'research' to tell the difference between fantasy and what I'd actually want to be. Or to guess that people probably don't mean that Kratos is supposed to be something people would *actually* want to be.EvilRoy said:Snip
You don't need a fucking sample size to be reasonable in trying to parse what a phrase means, seriously.
There is more than 'fantasy they aspire to' and 'aspiration they fantasize about'. Aspiration is a word the OP has added to what people actually say.More or less. Even if the initial question had been phrased featuring Kratos as a figure of fantasy the data would still be somewhat questionable based on what I mentioned above. It's important to know if your respondents are basing their answer on Kratos as a fantasy they aspire to or an aspiration they fantasize about. Preferably we would find out the answer to both and compare them to see if there is any difference.wulf3n said:As such any data gathered as to Kratos as a figure of aspiration cannot correctly infer anything about his role as a fantasy.EvilRoy said:A person can aspire to a fantasy or fantasize about an aspiration. They aren't mutually exclusive.Master of the Skies said:Not in the least bit. Only if you ignore the fact that I just pointed out one has the word fantasy right in there and the other is talking about reality and try to pretend that fact doesn't apply regardless of the fact that it's only me that pointed it out.EvilRoy said:N=1, ultimately.Master of the Skies said:I don't think I need 'research' to tell the difference between fantasy and what I'd actually want to be. Or to guess that people probably don't mean that Kratos is supposed to be something people would *actually* want to be.EvilRoy said:Snip
You don't need a fucking sample size to be reasonable in trying to parse what a phrase means, seriously.
In terms of Greek culture, a small penis is seen as desirable and godly.delta4062 said:Kratos is always a bad example for this. He's the main character in a series about ancient Greek mythology. He's supposed to look like a Greek statue. All cut physique with plenty of muscle.