Poll: marajauna legalization
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... said someone who'd never touched ethanol (beer, cider, wine, brandy, gin, vodka, whisky or whiskey), nicotine (cigarettes, cigars, gum and patches), salicylic acid (feverfew, willow bark, aspirin), paracetamol (tylenol), ibuprofen, caffeine (Coke, Pepsi, Dr Pepper, Mountain Dew, Irn Bru, black tea, green tea, coffee), any kind of antibiotic, any opiate in any form, any other painkillers or anaesthetics whether local or general or nutmeg in his life ...pete240 said:
... right?
It would be good for the economy but I think it would make workers lazy, but there would probably be guidelines not allowing the use of pot at work, but it still should be illegal for a military active duty to smoke while he/she is serving his/her term in the military.
It should have the same kind of rules and regulations as alcohol. You can't do it on the job, you can't smoke and drive, you can't give it to minors, you can't do it in public, etc.Srkkl said:
When Canada legalized marijuana for medical use they found that the use of marijuana increased while the use of other drugs such as cocaine and heroin decreased. If the gateway drug theory were true wouldn't the use of heroin and cocaine have increased also?
Marijuana has virtually no toxicity. There is some evidence that dependence on cannabis can exist in some HEAVY users. But compared to the addictive properties of legal drugs (sleeping pills, alcohol, tobacco, pain killers) marijuana is much less dangerous, and legalized would allow people access to much safer treatment alternatives for medical illnesses.
Having looked at the data for it, I can tell you why. According to what little data is available and assuming humans are similar to chimps ( or dogs :-\ ), you'd have to eat 1% of your own bodyweight at 10% by mass to stand a chance. Anyone fancy chewing through a big bag of spinach [http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1249933280916] in one go?GonzoGamer said:
That's based on LDlo, the lowest recorded lethal dose, which is all that's available on THC. You can get the LD50, the dose that kills 50%, for intravenous, subcutaneous, oral or inhaled for rats and mice, but it doesn't kill chimps so often in such doses.
Of course, the dose required to trigger latent schizophrenia ten years down the line may be a lot smaller than the dose required to prevent someone seeing ten hours down the line. If someone's terminally ill, effects ten years down the line cease to be a concern.
Gynecomastia, fyi, means that men grow their own boobies.
For comparison, α-amanitin (as in Destroying Angel) has an LD50 of about 0.1mg/kg; ricin has LD50 30µg/kg orally and about 3µg/person intravenously; botulin's LD50s are estimated at 1ng/kg injected or 3ng/kg inhaled (so 1kg is enough to kill the human population of Earth by injection) ... and ethanol's LDlo for a child is 2g/kg, so 1 25ml English pub measure per 3.5lb of body mass is unlikely to (directly and outright) kill someone. Make someone very ill indeed for several days and/or the rest of his or her life, sure.
The problem is that by then it might be too late and someone will have gotten hurt or killed.Agayek said:
pete240 said:
pete240 said:
You made the statement. I called you on it.pete240 said:
Edit: "drugs that don't make you better" defined how?
Painkillers mask the problem. Anti-inflammatory painkillers can help. Aspirin can help reduce a fever. These are good things. Taking painkillers to mask the pain of the injury you are causing yourself by lifting and twisting in unsafe ways makes it easier to work in even more unsafe ways and means you hurt yourself more. There is evidence that marijuana helps with some chronic medical conditions, i.e. makes people better. Depending on the circumstances, you'd have to swap painkillers into your list of bad drugs for stupid people and marijuana out of it, wouldn't you?
No?
No, you wouldn't, because your list was a list of illegal drugs. Mm-hm. You sent the government your encryption and decryption keys too, did you? Do you keep a record of all your 'phone calls just to save them having to do a warrantless wiretap? If the law said black people had to give up bus seats to white people or had to travel in the baggage cars of trains, or that a black's testimony was worth one third of a white's, would you support that too?
Really the only reason it was illegalized was because it couldn't be controlled by the U.S. Gov., its's been proven to be better for you than alcohol and tobacco, and it's not even chemically addicting, and as and added bonus Pot gives us music, so i'm all for it
