Poll: Mass Effect 2: *SPOILERS* Dealing with the Geth

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RedEyesBlackGamer

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Fenring said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Really? I talked to Legion and got all of his dialogue and, from my understanding, the heretics chose their path and saw Sovereign as a god. Sovereign then gave them the means to rewrite the rest of the Geth.
I thought it was more akin to a chemical imbalance in a human. A Geth, while unlinked to the whole, had some programming which caused a different answer something which, when he re-integrated, lead to the schism. The other Geth just caught that same imbalance.
I thought the renegade Geth came to the decision on their own and decided to impose their reasoning on the rest of the Geth. Legion is the perfect example of Geth reaching different conclusions/beliefs based on the same data.
 

CleverCover

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I blew them up and never looked back.
Honestly, I think it's the better choice.

1)Too much grief and pain they caused.
2)It can happen again. No thanks.
3)I have enough armies to help fight Sovereign. I'm good.
4)Those weren't the cool ones like Legion. That's a whole different sect. This sect tried to kill me. No. Shepard does not like that. I would have negotiated something, but it was kill on sight with them.

So...yeah, no. Not letting them live. Wish I could have seen the moments before death though like with the general. Hehehe.
 

CrustyOatmeal

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i rewrote them because i knew the reapers were coming and so my shephard made every decision with the thought "will this help or hurt me in the coming battle?" and thats why

*SPOILERS*

i let the rachni live, saved the council (was iffy on that one), and didnt destroy the space station at the end of ME2

my goal is to show up to the battle with all my frends and put on one hell of a fireworks show
 

kypsilon

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Go for the rewrite. It's just ones and zeroes and if they really cared they would be able to fix themselves anyways.

I'm bringing the galaxy down on the Reapers, I'll need every synthetic blood sponge I can get.
 

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I rewrote them simply because of the small bit about how sovereign was originally responsible for altering them (sort of like the synthetic equivalent of indoctrination) - so like others, I saw it as returning them to their organic, free-willed state.

If it weren't for that bit about Sovereign's influence, I would have killed them instead.

Legion said after I rewrote them that they were going off to "reconsider" their views - though I know that according to their mathematical logic, they would inevitably arrive at the same conclusion as Legion's Geth. During the mission, it seemed like Legion himself was confused about the situation. He said all sapients have the right to their own choices, but didn't know whether they really had full control like his Geth did. Alternatively, you could look at a rewrite as giving those Geth a second chance - and if they somehow chose on their own to deviate again, then so be it (it will be their choice in that case with no outside influence).
 

Agayek

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It was pretty simple for me. I didn't even really have to think about it for more than a handful of seconds. My personal moral code holds individual freedom/choice as the highest possible virtue. I refuse to let anything compromise that, even in a video game.
 

Agayek

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AK47Marine said:
Hmmm... you know he didn't mention it in his review but I wonder what Yahtzee did for this particular question? This is certainly one of those "real" moral choices he goes on about, and as I recall you get Renagade points either way thus freeing it from the red/blue option morality spectrum of the rest of the game...
Nope. You actually get Paragon points for rewriting the Geth. You really should get "evil" points for both, but you don't. I was rather insulted that it was considered "good" to brainwash an entire society. It kinda felt like they were saying "Hitler would've been a good guy if he'd only Clockwork Orange'd all the Jews instead".
 

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Agayek said:
AK47Marine said:
Hmmm... you know he didn't mention it in his review but I wonder what Yahtzee did for this particular question? This is certainly one of those "real" moral choices he goes on about, and as I recall you get Renagade points either way thus freeing it from the red/blue option morality spectrum of the rest of the game...
Nope. You actually get Paragon points for rewriting the Geth. You really should get "evil" points for both, but you don't. I was rather insulted that it was considered "good" to brainwash an entire society. It kinda felt like they were saying "Hitler would've been a good guy if he'd only Clockwork Orange'd all the Jews instead".

Hmmm... that's insanely lame, where did I hear you got ebil points for both? I feel like someone told me and I saw it somewhere on here.... Extra Credits maybe? Either way at the very least the fact that we're all still talking about it and have such diverse reasoning for our decisions proves it was a damn good decision point.... I agree with the rest of you statement even if it does invoke Godwin's law lol.
 

Agayek

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AK47Marine said:
Hmmm... that's insanely lame, where did I hear you got ebil points for both? I feel like someone told me and I saw it somewhere on here.... Extra Credits maybe? Either way at the very least the fact that we're all still talking about it and have such diverse reasoning for our decisions proves it was a damn good decision point.... I agree with the rest of you statement even if it does invoke Godwin's law lol.
They mention in Extra Credits that BioWare should have made it Renegade points for both, but they didn't. That's probably what you were thinking of.
 

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Agayek said:
AK47Marine said:
Hmmm... that's insanely lame, where did I hear you got ebil points for both? I feel like someone told me and I saw it somewhere on here.... Extra Credits maybe? Either way at the very least the fact that we're all still talking about it and have such diverse reasoning for our decisions proves it was a damn good decision point.... I agree with the rest of you statement even if it does invoke Godwin's law lol.
They mention in Extra Credits that BioWare should have made it Renegade points for both, but they didn't. That's probably what you were thinking of.
Yeah that's it, curse my mind for making the universe better then it is >.<
 

Archemetis

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I sat for a long, hard time thinking about it.

I talked it over with Legion as much as I could, he made it so much more difficult to decide with his 'Do what you like, I'm not programmed to give a shit'. Attitude!

In the end I rewrote them.
I was still uncomfortable with my choice, granted it's a step better than Genocide (I don't know if there's an adequate term for the mass murder of computer beings, Although they're considered a 'species')

But at the same time, I've still wiped out an entire way of thinking, which is pretty much like a mass lobotomy, removing a races free will and chosen right to hate me...

Still, like I said, lesser of two evils in my mind.
 

Ilikemilkshake

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i agree with you that re-writing them is actually the evil choice, but i still chose it on my paragon becuase i didnt want to seem out of place blowing it up, and i also wanted the geth as allies, but in an ideal world, killing them would have been the paragon option and i would have picked that.
 

darth.pixie

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Rewrote. Geth armies sound awesome.

Also...a programming error made them like they are.

As a programmer, I don't much see it as changing, like we change opinions. Programs make mistakes and in AI especially. I didn't really feel as though they had some sort of choice in their error so changing them to Legion's point of view was a normal choice. At least that's how I remember it. Haven't played them game in a while.
 

Internet Kraken

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Internet Kraken said:
It's not really brainwashing. Thing is, the Reapers infected that portion of the Geth with the virus in the first place. They didn't willingly join the Reapers. They were indoctrinated like organic species can be. The re-purposed virus would clear their minds, allowing them to rejudge their actions. Hence why there's a chance for them to remain hostile; they may reexamine their actions under the Reapers, and still judge them to be the best course for the Geth and rejoin the Reapers.

At least that's what I gathered from what Legion said. Anyways, I'd much rather give someone a chance for reform than kill them, so I rewrite the heretics.
Really? I talked to Legion and got all of his dialogue and, from my understanding, the heretics chose their path and saw Sovereign as a god. Sovereign then gave them the means to rewrite the rest of the Geth.
Yeah, it's confusing. The game isn't exactly clear on how the whole thing started in the first place. Could have used some better writing there.
 

AlexLoxate

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I've chosen to kill them. It's a quite interesting dilemma. Meeting Legion showed me that the Geth are not just machines. In that respect I didn't treat them as just something you can reprogram. Really though... who's to say what's right. And yes both options should be considered as renegade.

What also made me wonder was why did everyone seem to disagree with my decision to not destroy the Reaper ship. Even the Cerberus operatives themselves. I mean the Reapers will eventually come to Earth in ME3 and I understand that the technology may be too much to handle, but why not learn more about them.