Poll: ME3 EC didn't fix anything

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I saw EC endings on YouTube, and now I'm here to vent.

Endings didn't fix any of the major problems. Plot holes that retroactively destroy the trilogy are still there. These endings were designed to satisfy emotional players who wanted character closure and who don't give a flying fuck about logic behind it all. BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOGIC! It's still the same shit it was before. It's still A, B, C, and now D ending based around the assumptions that synthetics will eventually kill all organics even though I spent 3 games proving that little retard wrong.

Why are so many people happy with this? Did you all forget that the existence of starchild practically turns the entire plot of Mass Effect 1 into one giant plot hole? Why did Sovereign need Saren to fix the Citadel signal if starchild was always there? How did the protheans manage to sabotage the Citadel if the starchild has the ability to get into your head? Should we simply assume that a bunch of protheans were able to do all that and there was nothing the starchild could have done to stop them? We shouldn't assume that, because most people know by now what the original plot was supposed to be. And there was never any starchild in it.

Who created the starchild? Organics? Then why doesn't he simply protect the organics against the synthetics? Why don't the Reapers simply destroy the synthetics? Why are they waiting in dark space? Wouldn't it be easier for them to just roam around the galaxy making sure we don't create A.I.? Seems like an easier solution. And a more logical one.
What if synthetics created the Catalyst? That's even dumber. Synthetics created an A.I in order to protect the organics against the synthetics by killing organics.

What about the Crucible? It's still space magic. It still doesn't make any god damn sense.

Can't you see? As long as the starchild exists, the entire plot of Mass Effect makes no sense. And it's not like Bioware didn't have the easy way out. Jesus fuckin' Christ what a mess.

 

[boag]

If they had not been complete and utter dicks to the fans by calling the people disatisfied with the original ending, and I quote "Whiny, homophobic entitled brats", then Yes i would have been satisfied with the EC.

As it stands, I cant wait for Bioware to burn down and join the likes of Bullfrog and Westwood in the graveyard of companies EA has raped to death.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

Well aren't you just precious.

I reserve judgement for Extended Cut until I get off work tonight. I'm one of those weird people who liked the original Mass Effect 3 ending. More clarity to my questions certainly isn't going to hurt, though.

Besides, it is free.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Besides, it is free.

Of course it's free. It's 10 minutes of cutscenes. And you have to replay the last 3 hours of the game to get them. And even then it still doesn't fix anything. Who the fuck would pay for something like that?

 

[Jandau]

Well, at least the three original endings blow less now.

Seriously, they stated they won't be overhauling the ending sequence, so I'm not quite sure what you expected. Yes, the whole Starchild thing is crap, that much has been established. However, the extended endings are more bearable and you do get the "Screw you, Starchild!" ending that everyone demanded. Granted, when I saw it, I kept waiting for a trollface image with the words "Problem?" to show up on the screen, but to be honest that ending makes sense...

EDIT: Though, I gotta admit, while watching the new "Control" ending and listening to Shepard I kept waiting for "Still alive" from Portal to start playing...

 

[Kahunaburger]

Yep. Basically all they're doing is polishing their space magic turd.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

Of course it's free. It's 10 minutes of cutscenes. And you have to replay the last 3 hours of the game to get them. And even then it still doesn't fix anything. Who the fuck would pay for something like that?

I'm not sure what you were expecting Extended Cut to do. Of course it's 10 minutes of cutscenes, it's clarifying that which has already been established, not fundamentally reworking the existing endings.

Replaying the last three hours of the game is fine by me, as it's been a few months since I played. More for me to experience once again.

Ok, so maybe it wasn't what you were expecting. Fine, but it's the best we were given. If that isn't good enough for you, then well, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Ok, so maybe it wasn't what you were expecting. Fine, but it's the best we were given.

biowareinanutshell.txt

The real question is why there are 3+ threads about 10 minutes of slideshow.

 

[Atrocious Joystick]

Frankly, with the extended cut I think the ME3 endings are better than your average video game ending. I too only watched them on youtube, because frankly it's not like it would make a difference if I played them myself. And I have to say, with the extra cutscenes and the new ending I think it's really quite solid.

It's too bad they didn't just take that extra month to do this before they released the game.

CAPTCHA: Take it all.

We've long known it has sentience. Recently we learned it has an agenda. Now we know what that agenda is.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

Christ you people are bitter about nothing.

It's cool that you love the Mass Effect series and all, but in actuality, it's not all that important to throw a fit over.

Just make up your own ending for your Shepard if it bothers you that much.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Christ you people are bitter about nothing.

It's cool that you love the Mass Effect series and all, but in actuality, it's not all that important to throw a fit over.

I assume that was in response (in part) to my comment. I don't have much stake in the Mass Effect story - IMO it was always pretty mediocre. Out of the series, I only played ME2. I can really only speak for myself, but I would submit that some of the reactions that you interpret as "you ruined mass effect biowear T.T" are actually just "lol, bioware."

 

[ZehMadScientist]

I knew the extra scenes wouldn't fix anything the moment the creators said "We won't change the ending, we'll just...".

At least I got a shot that the krogan seem to be doing well. For now.

 

[raptor1181]

Let me start by saying that i love all the masseffect games and i love all of 3 apart from the ending. Now i like the ec and if it had been with the game it would of made the ending avarage instead of broken. But thats the problem!!! Mass effect is not avage, it has never been avarge and the fect that the ending is, thats the problem but its to late now so im going to enjoy the 100+ hours you can get froms these games and forget the last 15min. In my ending shephed slaps the star child and tells him to get the hell out of our universe!!!!

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

I assume that was in response (in part) to my comment. I don't have much stake in the Mass Effect story - IMO it was always pretty mediocre. Out of the series, I only played ME2. I can really only speak for myself, but I would submit that some of the reactions that you interpret as "you ruined mass effect biowear T.T" are actually just "lol, bioware."

Exactly.

It's alright to be passionate about a given medium, but the reactions people continue to write about this just send completely the wrong message. If so called "fans" of the story enjoy it so much, why is it all of a sudden acceptable to be outraged at the mere audacity of Bioware doing what they want with their own lore.

So there are those who don't agree with how things turned out. Ok, so Bioware released a free DLC to help clarify things. Those individuals either accepted the new endings or continued to swear off Bioware as fodder for EA.

I don't buy into that shit. I just play video games.

 

[everythingbeeps]

The extended cut didn't fix anything because it CAN'T. The problem is fundamental in the entire ME3 game, in the fact that none of your previous actions have any affect on the ultimate outcome.

Eh, I've seen this argument and I'm not buying it. Most of your previous actions DO affect the outcome, it's just that the effect is felt much earlier in the game, and isn't necessarily as impactful as you might have expected (but then, it's just unreasonable to expect ALL those decisions to have a huge impact.)

No, the problem with the ending is that there's no happy ending whatsoever. That's my problem with it. And the writers can fuck right off with their stupid "life doesn't always have happy endings" bullshit, because this is a game, not life. I played a badass superhero in this game, and I expected to save the universe in a more significant way than merely preventing the extinction of all life.

 

[Kahunaburger]

I don't buy into that shit. I just play video games.

And, apparently, get mad when people criticize and/or mock Bioware.

 

[Erttheking]

They didn't fix anything, I am not surprised. Kinda depressed though.

 

[Jynthor]

I watched the Destroy and Synthesis endings on Youtube and am currently downloading the EC to see Control for myself.
From what I've seen all the plotholes are still there. And it seems to me the endings went from "Everyone dies!" to "Everyone lives a happy life and everything gets rebuilt because we say so!" and "The Normandy crashed on a planet and is nearly destroyed? No Problem, they will fix it in a day and fly away like nothing ever happened because we say so!"
And since when is the Normandy capable of vertical flight?
Whatever.

Edit: And how were we supposed to get any of this from the original endings?

 

[Fishyash]

It's better...

Obviously since it's the same ending, it can't be fixed. I still feel it lacks coherence, even with more insight towards the consequences. As you said, as long as that kid, and the fact that our actions throughout the trilogy only amount to three choices, a sacrifice for a cinematic ending that I personally disagree with.

I don't really care, I think Bioware should have just keep it as the sucky ending it was... At least it would be a lesson for other developers to learn from making a game in a similar vein to the mass effect trilogy.

At least the ending is a little more satisfying, despite being a bit more optimistic than what I was expecting.