Poll: Men Vs. Women : Rationality

[Pingieking]

From experience, I've encountered more women who make no sense in trying to convey their point of view to me than men. Not sure if that means that men are more rational, or that I've just encountered more crazy women than crazy men.

 

[child of lileth]

Girls way of dealing with problems is "I'm going be silent for a few weeks until I unleash pent up frustration"

Men are more like "this shit is what happened. I'm either going to fight you or talk through it, but it gets done now".

I think, in terms of rationality, that makes men better.

This. But to be fair, it's way more fun to be able to be mad later. I've put things off that way for almost half a year recently, just because it makes crushing them like that all at once so much better.

 

[WOPR]

on an off note about the topic

they're both emotional and less rational depending on the want

but from the stereotypes that are hammered into people this is generally what I see happen

men yelling (due to the "men don't cry" crap that sadness becomes anger)
and women crying (from all that "cry and you'll get everything dear" crap that they hammer into young women)

I should mention that I live in a certain area of California where all stereotypes are brought to the extreme, you will hardly EVER find a person being themselves here

 

[Dags90]

I refuse to vote until there's a "There is no difference" option. You're poll presumes that there must be a difference unless we go for the unfunny meme option.

 

[Blemontea]

being a man i would like to say women and i will... with my social experience i dont have much experience. both arguing and seeing women argue.

 

[JeanLuc761]

I've known many men to become physically violent and unpredictable the moment they feel 'slighted', resorting to violence as the first approach to resolving any conflict. That's about as irrational as it comes. From this I can only deduce is that men and women are, to make a gross generalisation, irrational in different ways, according to many factors, such as social upbringing, visibility, perception from others, and other factors. After all, if you live in a society that derides you for showing emotions, or is constantly watching for any sign of breakdown, or is more likely to -notice- irrationality in one gender or another, they'll all colour your sample. For example, you might think the guy's being rational, but it could simply be that he knows he is not allowed to show that, and so in his actual head he's melting down, but he'll let that out later when nobody is looking, masking his irrationality. Also, if a woman cries, it's noticed because it reinforces the belief that women are emotional, flighty creatures that cry over EVERYTHING, confirming the stereotype, whereas a guy who cries just as much, but hides it, perpetuates his own 'stoic' gender stereotype.

Fair enough, you've had a different experience than me. I won't question that, and I certainly won't say I'm any more "right" than you are. I'm simply going off of my personal life experience.

 

[Madara XIII]

yes. 'a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth'. The reason is rarely 'these stereotypes are true'.

Unless there's a grain of truth in that 'jews sacrifice babies' myth.

I've never heard the baby sacrifice one...yeesh.

In any event, I'll concede that not all stereotypes are true, certainly, but in my experience, men tend to think logically in an argument, women tend to think emotionally. In my experience, that stereotype has played out to be true.

I've known many men to become physically violent and unpredictable the moment they feel 'slighted', resorting to violence as the first approach to resolving any conflict. That's about as irrational as it comes. From this I can only deduce is that men and women are, to make a gross generalisation, irrational in different ways, according to many factors, such as social upbringing, visibility, perception from others, and other factors. After all, if you live in a society that derides you for showing emotions, or is constantly watching for any sign of breakdown, or is more likely to -notice- irrationality in one gender or another, they'll all colour your sample. For example, you might think the guy's being rational, but it could simply be that he knows he is not allowed to show that, and so in his actual head he's melting down, but he'll let that out later when nobody is looking, masking his irrationality. Also, if a woman cries, it's noticed because it reinforces the belief that women are emotional, flighty creatures that cry over EVERYTHING, confirming the stereotype, whereas a guy who cries just as much, but hides it, perpetuates his own 'stoic' gender stereotype.

You do hold the valid point that men don't show their frustration in an argument, but for some and I say for both genders I've seen people keep cool and actually think things over rather than say the first thing that comes out of their mouth.

 

[WOPR]

I refuse to vote until there's a "There is no difference" option. You're poll presumes that there must be a difference unless we go for the unfunny meme option.

If you read it more closely you'd see the "they're about the same" option
i.e. the "no difference" option

also I'd classify that saying as more of a stereotype of old sexism probably from the 40's-50's not really a "meme" per-say.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

The idea of rationality in an argument between people of even the same gender doesn't ever entirely make sense as a result of semantic noise. Going even further than that, in the context of an argument between men and women (in which case you're probably talking about an argument between two people who are in a relationship) arguments are rarely ever expressed verbally on a level that goes beyond the surface of the argument, but, as anyone who has ever had an argument in a relationship can attest, it is incredibly rare that the arguments do not have many levels beneath the surface. To the extent that women may be more readily able to express the deeper levels of the argument, because most communication research does show that women are better at conversing in emotive terms than men are, they may appear to be arguing irrationally to a man who doesn't realize the depths of argument that they are expressing, but in fact they are conversing much more honestly in regards to the full extent of the argument.

That is to say that saying "do men or women argue more rationally?" is a gross oversimplification of the question because often people of different genders (and even people of the same gender for that matter) aren't even arguing about the same things. Trying to blame a misunderstanding of an argument on gender is just an attempt to run away from the real body of the argument.

 

[Dags90]

If you read it more closely you'd see the "they're about the same" option
i.e. the "no difference" option

also I'd classify that saying as more of a stereotype of old sexism probably from the 40's-50's not really a "meme" per-say.

"About the same" is a qualified statement. The poll, as is, presumes there must be some difference.

 

[FalloutJack]

If I've seen examples of both sexes being irrational, then neither side is more rational than the other.

 

[Grayjack]

Shut up and make me a sandwich.
It depends on the person. Some people are more rational than others.

 

[Madara XIII]

I refuse to vote until there's a "There is no difference" option. You're poll presumes that there must be a difference unless we go for the unfunny meme option.

Uuuum...There is...it's the 3rd option..READ

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Dang, I wanted to post that graph.

I think that, with a little variation of course, they are about the same. The ways we argue discuss things may be different but they are still charged by emotion rather than logic.

 

[CrazyMedic]

it is scientific fact that men in general IN GENERAL are more logical, men have less irrationality hormons we do have more murder eat meat and screw hormons.

 

[Serenegoose]

it is scientific fact that men in general IN GENERAL are more logical, men have less irrationality hormons we do have more murder eat meat and screw hormons.

Murder: Rational since 2010.

Hey I can say silly things too!

 

[FinalHeart95]

Although it varies, men tend to be more rational than women, I think. Women have advantages in other areas, but rationality is not one of them.

 

[Stuntkid]

From experience, a woman can irrelevantly go for low-blow insults and you'd have to hold back when argueing; unless you want a bunch of people jump you a week afterwards.

I'd tried to forget this, but here's the most I can recall. A girl and I got into an arguement about the continuity of an anime, I think it was Naruto(GOOD GOD, I cant believe I watched that crap). I brought up logical trivia and research to support my viewpoint (I get serious when I'm into something, and all she did the whole arguement was saying "Yes it is" louder and louder (Once again, I completely forgot what I was arguing about), and she would insult my appearence, intellegence, and family issues(cause she knew about that and wanted to use it as her "trump card"). Her friends gladly interfened. I kept from yelling to the point where all everybody heard was thier screeching voices. What really gets it in my ass, is when people are saying that she's winning the arguement, because she is louder and has more conviction. But, as a pathetic attempt to get that assumption wrong, I continued not to yell, and I got to a point where I got her to a verbal checkmate. Then at that point, she started swinging. There was no bruises, but I could taste blood. And the hell of it is that everyone around me, even the fucking athorities, that it was humorous. Then I shoved her, called her a psycho ***** and she fell on some chairs. The entire place was silent. Shortly afterwards some burly men grabbed me and threw me out of the building. The girl wasn't hurt. I wasn't submisive after that night, like the girl, her friends, and my parents thought I should be. So 5 days later, what looks to be her brother and his friends cornered me shoved me around and told me to "stop using my smartass mouth" after I said "yeah" the most badass way I could, they walked away. And I stood clear away from her, then I moved away.

Of course, I can't difine an entire gender stereotype by one example. But this is just one example. this happened multiple times, with different women. I've moved 8 times in my life, and I've lived in most sides of the spectrum: North, Midwest, South, Big City, Small Town. And it's basically the same.(Although the south has a bigger issue with this in general.) I don't know, maybe I'm just that unlucky with finding groups of women. Maybe it's one huge coincidence. I don't know, but I'm just speaking through experience. No offence.

At the same time I'd have men do the same thing, but you'd don't have to be aware of there emotions as much.

...I hate Otakus

 

[Stryc9]

It really all comes down to the individual. I've seen men that become totally irrational when arguing with people and I've seen women that are completely capable of keeping their act together and getting straight to the point of the matter.

 

[Ashtovo]

i would have to say men, but not by much. Everybody i argue with seems to be off in their own little world where history/politics/physics/etc works according to them. the only reason women lose this is because of the tendency to ***** at me and change the subject to how men oppress women.