Poll: More ads on The Excpaist - Problem solved?

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Woodsey

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More ads are fine as long as they're well thought out. Having them on captcha's when you're trying to post a comment is just obnoxious (as are the ones that jump out and fill the entire screen).

For starters, there's a banner at the top of the home page that's used to advertise LRR instead of actually advertising something. At the bottom of the page there's a big, white blank box, and there's nothing down the borders.

Oh, and if you can't afford to pay people, don't bring new people in.
 

teh_Canape

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Klumpfot said:
A better solution would be to monetize some of the content in some fashion.
imagine this

owning a 20% of Zero Punctuation

I'm okay with ads, if it would help the site

I don't get many, or at least the amount that usually makes people rage, dunno why, since I don't use blockers or anything like that

but if it will help the Escapist, I'd gladly click some
 

Racecar1994

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As most people have been saying, I think merchandise will be the more warmly-received option, but the problem there is that it takes money to produce the merch, which could be quite risky, given that they are already supposedly having money issues.

Adverts, of course, can be incredibly annoying (especially the ones which stop videos, much to my chagrin), but they are still probably the better option at the moment. However, If there are going to be more adverts, then I think there has to be a certain compromise, in order to make the increased amount more manageable and less overpowering.

Firstly, they should probably only be asides. This may seem kinda obvious and even harmful to the point of ads, but this is the compromise part: If you frontload adverts into people's faces, they are obviously going to feel as if the site is only interested in getting revenue and helping its business partners (not helped, unfortunately, by the publisher's club membership removing such ads). In order to avoid this, adverts should typically be in banners on the side and, of course, be optional to watch if they're videos.

The second point I have concerns making people interested in such adverts. Some of the adverts I've seen here - such as the one concerning a range rover some time ago - don't seem to be aimed at the people who would go to a gaming site. That's why I say be exclusive when picking adverts. While this may cut business options down a notch, it helps because the people who are interested in games (as is the case with almost everyone here) will take a greater interest in the adverts. Again however, you shouldn't frontload them, or the interest will be lost.

The third is concerning the publiser's club memberships. This is another way in which I can see the Escapist making greater revenue with little sacrifice. I think adding greater benefits to buying a membership will garner more interest and, of course, more people buying them. An example of this would be, say, a community newsletter spot on the site: members are able to write up articles for the community to read, rate and share. Another idea would be to allow bonuses in the games of certain business partners (which is sort of what they do anyway, but...), as this could both promote interest in being a member, and also in the game the bonus is in.

Of course, these are just ideas. I don't work in marketing nor do I have much experience running a business. With that said, though, I think these ideas might do some good, and if not, then they can simply be ignored.
 

Scarim Coral

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No unless you imply the extra ads will encourage us to pay for the publisher's club.
The current ads can be annoying but I can tolerant it (this website is a business after all); adding more of it will only infuriate us further.
 

lord.jeff

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I don't get people's problem with ads, most of them don't get in the way, oh no a completely ignorable ad is at the top of my screen everything is ruined, put as many as you like there I'm pretty much trained to never look at them anymore. And does it really matter if the captchas say "$up3r w4ng" or "Instant Internet" no it doesn't it's not going to ruin your day to see an ad instead of a captcha. As for ads before videos, those don't bother me much, first every site does it, and second a 20 sec ad for a five minute video, ratio of 1-15 is better then tv, 25 minute show for half hour block, ratio 1-6. Am I the only person who grow up before DVRs?

Your going to need to do more then just add ads, they also need to do some trimming, which they have already been doing recently, or maybe they left like the Extra Credits guys are doing, and whatever else can get money maybe some merchandise or a tv partnership like Zero Punctuation did on X Play a while back get some money to pay for the show and advertise the site as well.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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One word: Meebo. One more word: Cataclysm. Aw heck, have three more: Mass Effect 2. Every time TE tries to up the number of ads they have, it goes from acceptable to completely obnoxious. If they really can't fund the site with the ads, merchandise, and pub club income, they might want to look at all of the new shows they've been adding. How is it that they couldn't pay the EC guys, and yet they still added new shows after hiring them? Something just doesn't seem right here.
 

StBishop

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Vuliev said:
I honestly wouldn't mind Escapist merchandise, and would likely buy some. If that's already the case, then disregard me because I am derp.
You are derp. :) Now go over to the Escapist's Store at Split Reason and buy some swag. Maybe even a shirt which will illustrate your love of Charismatic Stallions to others. Or perhaps your status as one. Which ever seems more plausible to you.
 

lacktheknack

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I wouldn't mind, but they're trying to pay for:

-Lots of contributed content
-Salaries for a good-sized permanent staff
-Server maintenance
-Webspace

...all on merchandise and ad revenue. (I don't count Pub Club memberships, as I'm assuming those things cost their worth in ads.) More ads would help, but seeing as their finances are apparently fourteen months behind (how long it took to pay one contributor), they need some MAJOR financial intervention right about now.

I'd say that merchandise is their only hope, except the one thing I've learned in my time here is that gamers generally are some of the cheapest bastards in existence.

I honestly don't know how much longer the Escapist can keep going like this. I wouldn't be surprised if March is the only month they really turn a profit.
 

beefpelican

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unabomberman said:
I'll take the ads any day. All I have to do is not click on them if they bother me.
Word. The escapist has better, more thoughtful content than any other gaming site out there. Ads are easy to ignore, and I like me my Extra Credits.
 

Lenin211

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I would be okay with more ads so long as they are not those awful popup ones that take up half of the monitor.
 

Canadamus Prime

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TestECull said:
Where's the "I'm already highly annoyed by the spam of ads we currently have so if they add even more I'm going to leave" option? Because that's what I'll do. I already think there's too many ads as it is. They add more and I'll just take my business elsewhere, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I second this! Besides I don't think they know how to deal with the money they have, nevermind what to do if they get any more.
And I don't care if it does mean the survival of the Escapist, I fucking HATE advertising! I hate have ads shoved down my throat. I'd rather see the Escapist die than have to put up with any more than I already do.
 

StBishop

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lacktheknack said:
I wouldn't mind, but they're trying to pay for:

-Lots of contributed content
-Salaries for a good-sized permanent staff
-Server maintenance
-Webspace

...all on merchandise and ad revenue. (I don't count Pub Club memberships, as I'm assuming those things cost their worth in ads.) More ads would help, but seeing as their finances are apparently fourteen months behind (how long it took to pay one contributor), they need some MAJOR financial intervention right about now.

I'd say that merchandise is their only hope, except the one thing I've learned in my time here is that gamers generally are some of the cheapest bastards in existence.

I honestly don't know how much longer the Escapist can keep going like this. I wouldn't be surprised if March is the only month they really turn a profit.
To be honest you have a point. The easiest way to generate traffic (and therefore revenue) it to hold fun competitions, like MM, where the only winners are games/game characters/game developers. I'm aware that people win shit in MM but that's not why I participate. I do it for the love of my favourite devs.

If they held similar vote based comps more regularly they could easily generate more traffic.

What about a similar competition for worst publisher (although they couldn't do that, because it's not only rude, but possibly slanderous) or best FPS hero, Best RPG hero, best platformer hero etc.

This is genius. Someone do it.
 

souper soup guy

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I'd be fine with more adds, but I'm not sure how much more revenue that would actually get the escapist. Still, the people here do good work, and if they could get a little bit more money I'd be all for that.
 

lacktheknack

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StBishop said:
lacktheknack said:
I wouldn't mind, but they're trying to pay for:

-Lots of contributed content
-Salaries for a good-sized permanent staff
-Server maintenance
-Webspace

...all on merchandise and ad revenue. (I don't count Pub Club memberships, as I'm assuming those things cost their worth in ads.) More ads would help, but seeing as their finances are apparently fourteen months behind (how long it took to pay one contributor), they need some MAJOR financial intervention right about now.

I'd say that merchandise is their only hope, except the one thing I've learned in my time here is that gamers generally are some of the cheapest bastards in existence.

I honestly don't know how much longer the Escapist can keep going like this. I wouldn't be surprised if March is the only month they really turn a profit.
To be honest you have a point. The easiest way to generate traffic (and therefore revenue) it to hold fun competitions, like MM, where the only winners are games/game characters/game developers. I'm aware that people win shit in MM but that's not why I participate. I do it for the love of my favourite devs.

If they held similar vote based comps more regularly they could easily generate more traffic.

What about a similar competition for worst publisher (although they couldn't do that, because it's not only rude, but possibly slanderous) or best FPS hero, Best RPG hero, best platformer hero etc.

This is genius. Someone do it.
I'm always up for more competitions! Of course, none would be as traffic-attractive as "Best Developer", but at this point, their best bet IS more traffic... You gotta do what you gotta do, right?
 

The_Echo

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The Virgo said:
If you look at most of the ads here, they are mostly for other features on The Escapist, like the Miracle of Sound, Jimquisition and the like. And I just watched the latest Zero Punctuation episode and there wasn't an ad while the older ones have ads. And I don't even have ad blocker!

Really, it doesn't take a genius to realize that they actually need to run ads for non-Escapist stuff! -_-' Methinks that their lack of funds is due to bad management.
This. Completely this.

So much of the ad space here is put toward things that are on the Escapist, and that most of the users already know about.

A good place to start would be using that space--ad space we're already familiar with and used to--for real ads.
 

Korolev

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If it helps I wouldn't be adverse to seeing a few more ads on this website. I'll even click on them to send the escapist a little money.

If they are struggling to play 20,000 dollars, then the Escapist is in SERIOUS trouble, and they need to find new revenue raising methods fast. The Publisher's thingamajig was good, but clearly it's not cutting it, since I already see that most of the people on the forums are not subscribers.