Zebidizy said:
lwm3398 said:
Zebidizy said:
lwm3398 said:
Zebidizy said:
lwm3398 said:
Zebidizy said:
lwm3398 said:
george144 said:
Kukul said:
george144 said:
Kukul said:
george144 said:
Kukul said:
Communism.
No other invention killed over 100 million people.
I bet Capitalism's killed a lot more indirectly.
You're talking out of your ass. How exactly would that happen? You mean those people, who died due to draconic working conditions and poor healthcare? It was 10 times worse in gulags and additionaly there were mass murders. Also all wars in the last few centuries combined didn't take as much lives as Stalin alone. It looks like you lost the bet.
So the death toll in third world countries brought low by Capitalism, sparking war and genocide across huge parts of the world and condemning millions upon millions to poverty and death across the African and Indian continents. Yeah I mean who cares about them they don't matter. I forgot to some people its only the deaths of those in the Western world that are real and the fact that communism is dead and over means its much worse then an evil that continues to persist in our world right now, constantly being supported by countries like America. When history is looked back on in the future I think we will find the scourge of Capitalism to be far worse then the atrocities committed by Communism.
The problem with you Che Guevara t-shirt sporting, socialist "rebels" is that you don't understand what exactly do you rebel against, except white guys in fancy suits.
Capitalism only defines economic system, I believe what you mean is Colonialism.
Free trade =/= financing war criminals and keeping slaves on your banana plantations.
In fact international free trade, unlike UE interventionalism to create unfair competition, would help 3rd world countries a lot.
I don't actually support communism you know I'm a Fascist actually, I also hate those "cool nonconformist, stick it to the man" type people and I believe both communism and Capitalism to be bad systems, but of the two I believe Capitalism to be the greater evil due to its continuing effects in this day and age.
America is the only powerful capitalist country. i mean,call me a troll, but why would you think capitalism is evil? we helped stop the Nazis,who i think were socialist, which is just their way of saying "we aren't communist" but believe me,socialism is a communism clone. Hitler killed 6 million civilians with the holocaust and probably a total of 7 million with the casualties added to that. and that's
one war. communism has killed much more than capitalism. i agree with Kukul,you're talking out your ass.
okok america lets seee wat exactly hav u done to date to other poorer countries
cuba a communist group rose against a dictator and freed the people yet america tried to stop that as they wer using them for cheap labour and when they finaly won america blockaded them from the rest of the world
The vietnam war that was the highlight of american brutality i mean they slaughterd how many innocents in ther ideal for it being a "just" war
Lets go back to the world war the dropped 2 nukes on two heavily populated towns filled with innocents to prove a point when it was unneeded.
I'm not saying that americans are evil assholes more their goverment but its to point out that capatolism isnt better than communisum but nor is communism better than capotalism each one has flaws just like anyother its more down to the actual goverment who enforces the ideals
and nw i apologise to any americans i hav offended
don't you talk about Vietnam like it was a mistake! i get so pissed when people ***** and moan about it! we stopped the north from making the south a communist country! and as for African poor countries, they shouldn't
be poor. they have amazingly fertile land,but it's the communist dictators that stop them from developing in to a booming produce developer. and as for Hiroshima,those two bombs stopped the Japanese from sending innocent 18 year olds to a death by forced kamikaze.it made them notice that they better not screw with the USA. And look at Japan now,i believe they are capitalist now,and are producing great anime and getting wealthy from it. all because
we dropped a few bombs and got them away from communism. china was good back in the world war 2 days,and now they're a dictatorship/communism which is totally evil. they also pollute more than America,but aren't antagonized for it because they're a "developing country". same goes for India,but i'm losing my train of thought. as a closer, communism has caused a whole lot of wars,and must be destroyed completely so the world can unify and kill all other major evils, like terrorists.
It would be best if you enw ur own histroy the bombs were dropped because the american goverment new what it would cost in american lives if the attacked japan directly they did it not to save hapanese lives but to save ther own troops in essence they murdered how many young 18 yr old boys innocent girls women men kids animals in order to save some of ther own troops i mean the effects still go on to day it was a great injustice.
as for vietnam i mean u carpet bombed a nalpmand hundereds of innocents in order to kill a few gorrila fighters, i'm sick of those who go on about nam as if they wer fighting for justice they wern't it was just a bunch of pig heads who disliked communists and so decided to go to war costing the lives of ther OWN men and the lives of innocents.
they were GOOD in world war 2 no they wern't china was in the shits in world war two and ther better nw
Most third world contry dictators are their due to countries like america i mean (going back to cuba) they dictator ther was in power due to america the same with Argentina and some other countries.
But getting over that u missed my point the ideals of communism are very good everyone works for the betterment of the country every1 is equal its not the ideal but ht people. I mean u hav to agree that america's ideals are good amazing my country drew inspiration from the war of independence but its ur leaders that ruin it and the pigheadness of some people how esily we are corrupted
okay,okay, i'll admit,communism is an ingenious plan,but people stop working but still get paid equal to their partner. it's like schoolwork, i do nothing,you do all, we still both get an A+. that's why it doesn't work.
and Hiroshima saved both American people and Japanese people. it stopped the war with Japan.
in war, it's a penny for a penny. we kill to save. that's what Hiroshima was. and
as i said, look at Japan now. a booming capitalist country.
and hell no,we did not put the dictators in Africa there. if anything, we want to help them. hell, if they have fertile land that we can have them plant and harvest stuff to sell to us, why would we want them not to? we did NOT put the African dictators in place.
as i said,by eliminating communism,we can unify the world and destroy small evils like terrorists and evil extremists and the liberal party. when the world becomes a Conservative Capitalism,we will be completely indestructible.
if i had to go for capitalism then it would never be conservative wen uve lived here in ireland u grow to h8 those arseholes the very word pisses me off how can a race hope to evolve and change if ur a conservitive, thats my view and the word terrotist is over used i could be called a terroist and alot of people i respect would b called that by others its a point of view and not one i hold 2,
and no matter how u put it Hiroshima can not be justified it was unneeded a simple display would hav been enough but humanity has always had a need for revenge.
and i'm not talking about africa i'm talking about south america and yeas ur goverment had put in place several dictators i mean every goverment does it brition did it with Uganda.
u say by destroying communism u can unify the world i mean will shiite and sunni muslims work together just because ther is no communism would a loyalist irish and a republican irish work togehter just because ther is no communism i'll tell u frankly ur way of thinking is an ideal that won't work unless u kill and destroy everything that doesnt agree with ur point of view
you hate conservatives/republicans? whatever. anyways, by destroying the idea of communism and replacing it with capitalism over time the world will become more conservative than not.
a world without communism,liberals,terrorists,extremists,or corruption would be the most amazing world ever.think of it, Africa and South America could use there amazing soil to make great produce, Mexico could use their beach side property for resorts, and it would all be run by the UN, a few representatives from each country (the # of representatives is relative to the population of said country) and they would collect taxes to put into making schools,houses,jobs,an army and other things needed. everyone could worship how they wanted, they could own weapons,and there would of course be an FBI type thing to keep order. aside from this,with many scientists coming in from all countries,we could get cures for many things,also vaccines against diseases,and after quite a few years, a cure for cancer,stem cell research would increase,and maybe we could get a cure from that. of course every country has one leader,and they meet to discuss laws and things like that. and then after a ten year term, the country leader (CL from now on) would be taken from power and then there's an election. it would be an election like America's, people vote,and then other people above them vote slightly based on the peoples votes. every 2 years, new country representatives would be elected. i forgot to mention what the representatives do at their meetings. they would vote on which laws are to be passed that were suggested by the CLs in previous meetings.
and it would utopia. crime would not stop,nor would extremists, but it would be an amazing system.
no i h8 conservitives wen i used the word republican it was direct reference to a person who believed in a united ireland free frm british rule, conservitive doesnt allow change r hates it it is also wat most loyatists parties are as they dont want to break free of england.
To make that truly work u have to make each country forgo their individuality u then hav to make sure each one will be willing to forget past greviences against others, you would then have to absolve all religous disputes between every single relgion out ther after by some miricle u did that u need to be make sure every1 agrees with ur way of thinking and ill tell u this ur going to have destroy most of europe for that to happen
You also need to factor in humanity as a whole how long do u think we could last working together without some outside enemy that we all hate not very long.
to abolish communisum and institute capitolism wont be enough u will destroy the freedom of people ond ther own thoughts if any sort of goverment was to be in place it would b democracy that is probably one of thee best goverment types.
I would maby agree that for each person to work together would be amazing every1 would love it but it will never happen unless ur willing to commits genocied to reach it.
our definitions of conservative must be different. mine is the same as a republican is in american.
well,as i said, in my dream world, there is nothing BUT these views. there are no liberals,or communists,extremists or terrorists. the views of conservatives,republicans, and capitalists are all that exist here. as for forgetting past grievences, i believe that when we destroy communism,countries under communist rule would be too thankful to think about grievences. to destroy communism, all i have to kill is the leaders of communist countries. than all the people living in the former communist country would get freedom. and everyone
would love it.
most people living in communist countries think they are living in utopia. that's the idea implanted on their brain. "this is as good as it gets" say the leaders. "and try to find out if that's true,you die." and that's about how it works. that's how Chinese think,how north Korean think,how North Vietnamese think. (but only if they still live in that country,not somewhere else) but by killing the leaders,giving them freedom, using my grand master plan,i would be a great world.
if all the good countries team up and go on some kind of super amazing tag team WWIII super battle we could kill the leaders,subdue the armies,give everyone freedom,and get the ball rolling. and from then on,we have my unified world.
but you're right,the casualties would be immense, and it might be worth it,but no one would ever,
ever,EVER go for it. but people can dream,right?
