Poll: Movies and games in 3D. Opinions?
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I don't like 3D films, so I doubt I'd like 3D games. Although, they are two different experiences. I don't know, I'd like to try it before I completely slag it off.
I see 3D movies as a gimmick to get people to pay more at the cinema. The massive problem I have with it is that it doesn't make the film seem more real nor does everything really pop out of the screen, it all looks like it's embossed a little.
A number of years ago, I went to Disneyland and saw some of the 3D shows there and they were spectacular. They really used depth well but they also had things in the room that would spray water and the chairs would move in certain ways etc to really bring what you were seeing on the screen alive. Yes, they were more of a ride than a film but if a film was to come out that was a full experience rather than just sitting down for a couple of hours, I'd shell out the extra money.
In terms of 3D games, I'd want something like a full headset so that I'm not just wearing goggles and looking at a screen but actually feel as if I'm in the game.
A number of years ago, I went to Disneyland and saw some of the 3D shows there and they were spectacular. They really used depth well but they also had things in the room that would spray water and the chairs would move in certain ways etc to really bring what you were seeing on the screen alive. Yes, they were more of a ride than a film but if a film was to come out that was a full experience rather than just sitting down for a couple of hours, I'd shell out the extra money.
In terms of 3D games, I'd want something like a full headset so that I'm not just wearing goggles and looking at a screen but actually feel as if I'm in the game.
3D games, movies, and TVs is the "quick fix" that the entertainment industry believes is the solution to their loss in profits the past few years.
It's a waste of time and money.
If they wanna make someting good, they should come up with technology which projects the game directly into my brain by overriding the input of the natural senses and allows me to directly control the game with my brain by intercepting the output commands for my body.
If they wanna make someting good, they should come up with technology which projects the game directly into my brain by overriding the input of the natural senses and allows me to directly control the game with my brain by intercepting the output commands for my body.
3D is now becoming good, that TV that wont require glasses is a good step forward, in a few years those TVs will be cheap, just like HD TVs are now. Also, watching crappy movies in 3D doesnt mean that the 3D is crap, the movie WAS CRAP. Watch the short video that Pixar made for Toy Story 3, then watch it in 3D. It does help.
Also dont tell me that gaming in 3D doesnt add immersion. Its like saying that a surround system is just a gimmick and we should all just keep having the sound coming from our TVs.
Also dont tell me that gaming in 3D doesnt add immersion. Its like saying that a surround system is just a gimmick and we should all just keep having the sound coming from our TVs.
I think it's a waste of time. The first time I saw a 3D movie, yeah I guess I thought it was pretty cool. But this is exactly like the Wii. Pretty cool for about five minutes, then we forget about it. And the argument that 3D is immersive is completely the opposite in my case. Since I already have to wear glasses, it doesn't only look stupid and is uncomfortable, it honestly takes away from the experience. I saw Avatar with 3D and without it and personally I liked it better without it. 3D makes it harder for me to concentrate and I really don't see this as the future of entertainment, nor do I feel that way about motion controls.
A couple of years back I went to Universal Studios Florida where they had something like what you described. It was a Terminator show. Complete with 3D movies featuring the Governator and many others, fake Terminator robots around the room and and actors portraying the characters running around the room. It was pretty cool. But it lasted maybe 10 or 15 minutes.Binerexis said:
I can't help but think that in a less controlled environment, like your living room, this kind of thing wouldn't work. That's one issue with 3D. Every other experience has been in a controlled environment. The movie screen is directly in front of everyone in the room. In any actual living room, this likely won't be true. How often do you watch television from an angle?
There are currently 2 types of 3D.
Those with glasses. This requires you to have glasses. You want to watch the Super Bowl on your friends 3D TV with 15 others? Better hope he has 20 pairs of those $150 glasses or bring your own or the entire event will be a pain where you can't even enjoy the game or the commercials. Even if you do have the glasses, what would it add to the Super Bowl? Making the field goal posts really stick out? Plus, you'll probably be moving around getting, snacks, drinks, and a dozen other things all while looking like a bunch of dorks wearing your sun glasses inside. Or maybe you're all just abused by your spouses. And with so many people, you can guarantee that one pair of those glasses will be destroyed...
Those without glasses. Basically these, like the 3DS, create the effect by filtering the screen in a way similar to the glasses. The problem is that you only get this effect in a very limited range. Pretty much directly in front of it. If someone beside you wants to look at your screen they won't see much of anything. I also noticed that the 3DS allows you to turn off the effect, so I think Nintendo is aware of the limits and possible side effects of the technology. While I have heard that they have done some things to take advantage of the 3DS, I still see this as too much of a gimmick and can't see it being used heavily in anything but shovel-ware.
Long story short, I can't see 3D adding anything to storytelling. Which is the most important aspect of any form of entertainment. I mentioned My Bloody Valentine before. While it was "fun" due to the 3D, the movie itself was pretty lame and full of cliches. I hated all the characters. Felt no connection to anyone whatsoever, so the tension was nonexistent. All it had going was a gimmick that made things fly out at you. Which is all that 3D is. A gimmick that some inferior stories will use, but the truly great ones will excel without. Some want 3D to be huge, but it would be wasted on most projects. Imagine Sienfield, or Singing in the Rain in 3D.
I'm with the "as long as I don't need to buy glasses" crowd. I will get the 3DS for sure, and it is probably going to be really nice. A pity that it makes the console more expensive, but with all the software they are promoting I'm definitely sold.
I think 3D will add a lot to the experience in games like Metal Gear Solid which uses stealth. In other games and in movies it is a nice addition to the graphics, but not more than that.
I think 3D will add a lot to the experience in games like Metal Gear Solid which uses stealth. In other games and in movies it is a nice addition to the graphics, but not more than that.
Yeah, sorry about that. This is the first time I ever did a poll and I thought the "Poll:" tag was something that people just added to the title to let everyone know that there was a poll in the subject. I didn't even realize it said that until just recently. Like 5 minutes before I read your post. I was hoping no one noticed...Pirate Kitty said:It's a polloll! We're all gonna die!
That really depends on the kind of storytelling. In games in particular, but also some movies (like Avatar) the setting can be a story in itself, and the graphics is an important part of that story. If 3D can make those well-designed game worlds come to life even more, then it does add something to the storytelling.Saltyk said:
While I don't think its necessarily either bad or good in its current state, I honestly believe there is a place for it, and likewise, places where it is unnecessary.
Personally though, I'm waiting for something more along the lines of really advanced holograms. Star Trek holo-deck please and thank you!
Personally though, I'm waiting for something more along the lines of really advanced holograms. Star Trek holo-deck please and thank you!
Lol. My thoughts exactly.Pirate Kitty said:Oh... Damn it!Saltyk said:Yeah, sorry about that. This is the first time I ever did a poll and I thought the "Poll:" tag was something that people just added to the title to let everyone know that there was a poll in the subject. I didn't even realize it said that until just recently. Like 5 minutes before I read your post. I was hoping no one noticed...Pirate Kitty said:It's a poll
I mean, er, what 'post
(think I'll see if I can edit that thing that doesn't exist out...)
I'm going to disagree on a few points.WaderiAAA said:
First, graphics do not make a game. I use to think that, but now I realize that graphics are nice and pretty, but story, gameplay, and fun are what's important. Some of my all time favorite games have crappy graphics by today's standards (though at the time, some were mind blowing).
Second, Avatar was an awesome movie in general. The 3D effects added nothing. Not even as a gimmick. I can name plenty of family members who saw it on DVD and loved it without 3D effects. Like I said in the initial post, I didn't even notice the 3D effects in the movie. They did nothing to me.
Third, while the world of Avatar was important to the plot, making leaves pop out at you does not enhance the experience. To say that this made it seem more real is not true. Watch it in 2D. I guarantee the movie is just as good without 3D effects. To really make it seem real, we would need to smell the environment, the flowers, the air. That would truly enhance the experience.
I agree that well designed worlds can make the world in a movie or game come to life, 3D does not add to the experience. If anything, it detracts from the world, by making the audience concentrate on how cool the 3D is. Think of it this way, if you don't notice the effects, what is the point? Do you notice that movies, shows, or games are in color? Of course not. It's expected. So if 3D becomes the norm, how is it special? How does it contribute? Today, we seem to think that some 3D movies are better than they are because they are in 3D. Case in point, my own posts about My Bloody Valentine. But if that was common, then My Bloody Valentine would just be what it is without 3D. A crappy movie.
Thanks for posting, and I hope to hear more of your thoughts!