Poll: MW2 and little kids

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rokkolpo

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Discon said:
Okay, I'm fifteen, and I don't think that you're a "kid" when you're fourteen, your mind is growing and you can have other oppinions than "I made a doo doo" or whatever.

I think most NORMAL children can handle these kinds of games. There are obviously kids with certain mental diseases that easily get influenced by what they read/watch/play, and they shouldn't play these kinds of games. (I know first-hand, as my step-sister has asperger, she's 17 and she still only allowed stuff like sonic games, and no manga/anime)

If anything a game like this will prepare the "kids" for real-life incidents that may happen, and prevent post-traumatic stress (or whatever you call it).
dude i have asperger and i,m 16. i,m more intelligent then most others. i question everything that isn't scientificaly proven and have never been influenced by a game of any sorts.(i also watch anime and read manga)

youre step-sister might be a ''special'' case.

kids from 14 might be intelligent but most kids just think they are(that's way worse)
 

JoshGod

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i believe it more to do with the individual than their age for instance i played god of war at 11 and im fine.. no seriously, shut up! stab stab stab. lol seriously tho im fine.
 

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CORRODED SIN said:
Do you dislike kids online as much as i do?
There's the kicker. You don't actually care if they play from a moral point, but your stance is that you hate kids...

No there should not be more AO games. In fact pretty much no game should be AO (except porn type games) I can think of no game that has deserved an AO rating...

Also I have been playing GTA since I was about 13 (18 now) and it doesnt serve a problem. I think by the teenage years kids are smart enough not to replicate this stuff.
 
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Parents are truly uninformed about video games, that's the harsh truth. They view games as nothing more than kids toys, i don't know why, the very first video games were aimed at adults.
It's a bit of a stereotype, but there's nothing that can be done about it, unfortunately.
 

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When i was underage my dad bought me anything that was 18+
He knew i was responcible for what i want and view. He looks at a game and goes "oo thats bloody" but he doesnt care.

oh i forgot, my dad is also a huge fan of fps (He loves his world war history) so i dont think he minds, he nos how bloody games can be and he doesnt dis it. I questione dhim on it before for college study and he said its better for a WW game to show blood and action because it gives us an idea what it was like for the men and women back then.
 

The Great JT

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Parents suck with ESRB ratings. Maybe it's because they don't bother looking at that stuff because they're too busy doing...something, I don't know because my parents were good about that kind of shit. However, the inattentive parents are really the big targets in why 14-year-olds are getting games like Modern Warfare.
 

TheFacelessOne

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Dear god, won't everyone just shut the hell UP.

Parents should decide what's appropiate for their kids.

Just because someone is young doesn't mean they aren't mature, and they have no idea how the world really works and that if they see one inch of *gasp*"boobies!" they're instantly corrupted for life, or if they see one pixel man getting shot, it means they're going to become serial killers just because they see blood spewing out of a pixel man.

I say we just let people enjoy what they freaking please. Yes, parents are typically bad at this kind of stuff, but still, games aren't going to corrupt anyone. If a child is responible, liable, mature, and intelligent enough to realize, "This game is just for fun. I should in no way follow the example set forth in any game I play."

My dad did a good job in deciding what I should any shouldn't play. He realizes that I can seperate games from reality and would never do something crazy just because I saw it in a video game.
 
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Discon said:
A bank gets robbed, and a cashier gets shot. There are two kids in the bank, one has played MW2, the other hasn't touched a game in his life. Which one do you think is more likely of getting permanent mental scars?
If you think playing a game gets you any closer to dealing with that level of mindfuck, then that's the danger I'm talking about.
It doesn't. At all.

I KNOW I'm young, but 14-year old "kids" don't usually "run through the field" or play hide and seek all day anymore.
Dude, when I was 14 we were all playing computer games or trying to get off with girls as well. My folks probably were doing similar. (apart from without the computer) Their folks as well. No-one ever "ran through the field" for entertainment unless it was with someone special.
"Kids" mature way faster now. Hide and seek started being considered childish about when I was twelve.
Really, they don't. I've seen kids exposed to real PTSD and what it does is scar them, no matter what level of "insulation" they've had.

And hide and seek is only childish if you're not playing it with the opposite gender or with guns ;)

Excuse any grammar errors or typos, as English usn't my native tongue and I had to type with one hand as I'm having a nosebleed.
Meh, your point's been made. I can't criticise for different English. But it's not so much about maturity as it is about protecting your pysche from the things that are going to come.

Playing a Mature game does not protect you from the effects of a sanity shock in ANY way. Otherwise most of the "Mature" people here would be immune by now. :)

Enjoy being a kid. Maturity sucks.
 

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CORRODED SIN said:
Do you think parents address game ratings enough?
Should the "AO" rating be thrown around more to wake people up?
Do you dislike kids online as much as i do?
Sometimes.
HELL NO..
Why do you hate them? I hope your only talking about the ones that scream and sing and not the nice non rude ones because it pisses me off when they get made fun of for no reason...
 

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CORRODED SIN said:
today i was at mcdonalds and i heard a kid say "modern warfare 2." i went up and asked him, "are you getting MW2?" he said yes, he preordered it, than corrected himself saying his father preordered it. this worried me a bit. knowing how violent and explicit this game will be, just from seeing the trailers, i think this is not the game for children, or anyone under 18 really. these kids were not older than 14, and thats pushing it. my first thought was "why did this kids dad preorder this game?" Kids dad is stupid. and my second thought was "why the fuck arent these kids in school? its 12:30 on a tuesday!"Lolwat. Stupid kids.
The game isn't for anyone 15 and under, really. I'm 16. I've taken BioShock to the face, I can take this. But that stupid kid is probably getting it only for the multiplayer.
 

Discon

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dude i have asperger and i,m 16. i,m more intelligent then most others. i question everything that isn't scientificaly proven and have never been influenced by a game of any sorts.(i also watch anime and read manga)

youre step-sister might be a ''special'' case.

kids from 14 might be intelligent but most kids just think they are(that's way worse)[/quote]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I was just using it as an example.
 

Discon

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Discon said:
A bank gets robbed, and a cashier gets shot. There are two kids in the bank, one has played MW2, the other hasn't touched a game in his life. Which one do you think is more likely of getting permanent mental scars?
If you think playing a game gets you any closer to dealing with that level of mindfuck, then that's the danger I'm talking about.
It doesn't. At all.

I KNOW I'm young, but 14-year old "kids" don't usually "run through the field" or play hide and seek all day anymore.
Dude, when I was 14 we were all playing computer games or trying to get off with girls as well. My folks probably were doing similar. (apart from without the computer) Their folks as well. No-one ever "ran through the field" for entertainment unless it was with someone special.
"Kids" mature way faster now. Hide and seek started being considered childish about when I was twelve.
Really, they don't. I've seen kids exposed to real PTSD and what it does is scar them, no matter what level of "insulation" they've had.

And hide and seek is only childish if you're not playing it with the opposite gender or with guns ;)

Excuse any grammar errors or typos, as English usn't my native tongue and I had to type with one hand as I'm having a nosebleed.
Meh, your point's been made. I can't criticise for different English. But it's not so much about maturity as it is about protecting your pysche from the things that are going to come.

Playing a Mature game does not protect you from the effects of a sanity shock in ANY way. Otherwise most of the "Mature" people here would be immune by now. :)

Enjoy being a kid. Maturity sucks.
I don't want to turn this into a flame-war, but I just want to point out that you're being kinda self-contradicting.

First you say that kids are becoming non-sensitive (can't remember the correct word) to violence in real life, and then you say that video games don't make it easier to handle real-life situations (like the bank robbery).

Then you say that "normal" kids should be out playing, and in your latest post you say that not even my grandparents played outside when they were in their teens.


/end of discussion
 
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Discon said:
I don't want to turn this into a flame-war, but I just want to point out that you're being kinda self-contradicting.
I don't believe so.
First you say that kids are becoming non-sensitive (can't remember the correct word) to violence in real life, and then you say that video games don't make it easier to handle real-life situations (like the bank robbery).
Ok, two points here. If I said they were becoming desensitized (which I didn't), then wouldn't the word have been included in my post?
Secondly, desensitization isn't the same as handling situations in RL, in fact it makes you numb to them.

Then you say that "normal" kids should be out playing,
Nope. Didn't say that either. Check back if you want.
and in your latest post you say that not even my grandparents played outside when they were in their teens.
Again, nope. I said that they were doing similar things to what you believe you are. I.E. Playing games that their folks didn't approve of and believing they were more mature than their parents thought they were.

/end of discussion
If you're going to end a discussion without listening to counterpoints, don't you think that perhaps that's what the M is there for? Because we've already been through it, had to wait in line for the M rated thing of the generation, and then found that it was so much sweeter when we finally got it.

And we probably accused the generation above us from not understanding at the time as well. As did our parents, and our grandparents...
 

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I'm 15 years old, and I'm getting this game. My parents have consented, and know about various aspects of it. The real problem is kids around the age of twelve buying and playing these games. After all, they're still (to be quite honest) kids, and shouldn't really be exposed to these kinds of games, especially when they're two age ratings down. But then, age ratings aren't really suited anyway. Getting to a certain age doesn't define whether or not you can play a game baed on its content. Sure, it's a general assumption that people of Age X can play Game Y with Content Z, but again, t's not as easy as that. I personally know that I will not be affected by playing this game (aside from enjoying myself, and considering ideas the developers are presenting), and neither will alot of other people.
 

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I'm 13 here and i am getting this game.
In my opinion parents should evaluate if they really should get them the game.I have a high morale and i don't act like a 11 year old in xbox live.I have my morale which i use online.
Parents should understand the age limits.This is a topic questionable only on behavior.
Call of duty games have been a favor to there story.This story has helped me understand what people were fighting for.What people try to tell with these games.About that our fathers fathers were fighting for in world war 2 and what the soldiers are fighting for now.Bet then there's the part of the popluation which think's only about the "Killing" part.Not the part of peace.These are the real people who should be banned.The rating are what they are.But how about a mental evaluation before giving someone these kind's of games ? it would be not only fair, but we understand what we should do.

(and i would like to apologies for my bad english)
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
StarStruckStrumpets said:
You need to base this on maturity, not age. I'm a lot more mature than the kids you are describing, and I'm only 14. The scenes I've watched don't alarm me for a moment. Know why? Because it's only a game. I'm not going to spend my time worrying about something that isn't real. I've played plenty worse.
Exactly, I'm 15 and the airport scene did not bother me at all. A mate of mine who is 17 felt sick after watching that.
badgersprite said:
Some people are just idiots. If your child appears to be an idiot at a certain time in their life, then do not buy them such video games. If you yourself happen to be an idiot, then please do not use the online feature. Remember, age is just a number, but idiocy is for life!

This has been a public service announcement. =3

(Serious answer: I don't really have any strong opinions on violence in video games, but the thing I find kind of sad about this is that a lot of kids playing MW2 probably won't understand the themes of the game - i.e. the fact that the game is anti-war. I do worry that at a young age they'll interpret it as a glorification of war & violence, rather than appreciate its more complex message. But, then, there are much older people who would do that too, albeit in fewer numbers.)
Many, MANY Americans will see this whether they are 15 or 25. Knowning that every Cod game has a happy ending, IW will through in a mission where the Americans take part in some heroic battle to push out the Russians, there will be way to many Americans seeing that as another glorified act of how "Badarse" there Marines are.
Yeah, that's why I said age probably wasn't a factor in it. Besides, I wasn't talking about people your age (since fifteen year olds can play the game in my country). I was talking more along the lines of kids who are, like, twelve and just want to see blood and explosions. And I stand by my statement that idiots come in all ages.