Poll: MW2 PC hate overblown? YES!

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Buizel91

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can i just make a point?...

ahem...

most COD games...since 3 have had short campaigns for one reason... they are fast paced...

every little detail is in their what they want to do for the story, if they made it longer people would probably complain it's to long. the story is meant to be short, fast paced, and include alot of story. which it did. COD WAW story was short...not many people complained at that for this long and that was made by treyarch ffs =P

i admit this is the shortest campaign they have done, but i like it, at least they haven't completely de-railed the train, they are just doing what they have been for quite a while now.

i will admit the hate for this game is rediculous...i mean hate website? wow over board and i do wish people would pipe down a bit, seriously, so what if you cant MOD the game, in my opinion that's good means that maps wont be created left right and centre to clog someone's computer up.

but meh this is just me rambling on and no one will listen so pfft, speaking of MW2, think ill kick some ass =)
 

Buizel91

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crepesack said:
HAHAHA...Well anyways, I was two inches away from purchasing MW2 on my pc...literally, I decided not to because to be honest i don't like the feel of the mouse. But anyways. I agree mw2 did NOT live up to expectations, I've been following the series since cod 2. And it got better until cod 4 then just plateaued.

For everyone saying that they should stop the series...how about a big fuck no? For one, it's not even a SERIES as one would have it. For one there have been only two installments in an actual original plot so far mw1 and mw2, and secondly the other 3 games were all historical based... not really series as it was just a large player in a particular genre, ww2 fps.

They dropped the ball on mw2, i agree, for everyone, crap servers, glitches, and terrible hosting...it's not unplayable, it's just not as fun as the previous games...I can tell...mainly because I just HATE hardcore search and destroy now, when it used to be my favorite game type.

Thermal made life for everyone too easy, weapon accuracy is ridonkulous the fact that i can't have Ninja AND sitrep neuters your ability on offense as well. either A: get murked by someone with heartbeat or B: raped by explosives lying everywhere.... They basically made stealth in HCSD impossible.
urm...thermal isn't all that...try cold blooded my friend =) its for perk 2 =) and i find the stealth to be ok, not the best, i can easily sneak around and kill 5 people with a knife, while been where the enemy is =)
 

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Kalezian said:
actually, I paid right around $60 USD for it, just like WaW and CoD4.......oh wait, I see what your getting at, your a PC player and your pissed that you had to spend more money for the first time ever.
You're, you're you're

You're- you are Eg. "You are annoyed at having to pay an increased price"
Your- Belongs you you, Eg. "Is that your post which is filled with errors?"
Your point is invalid for this purpose, but for the sake of argument, I will pretend that you're going to listen.

Also, we had increased prices in the UK. The world is not just AMERIKA. IW/Activision announced that they wanted to sell the game for £50. Luckily, most retailers told them to get fucked and sold the game for a more reasonable, but still a lot for a PC game, £40.
 

Buizel91

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jonnybe123 said:
Yes its justified. People are going to buy the game regardless of its flaws because of the hype and because people are stupid sheep. If you don't at least try and stop them then Infanty Ward will keep releasing shit games that screw pc users. and problem is aswell, if they get away with it theres a good chance that other developers will take the same approach.
My opinion on Modern Warfare anyway is
Story in both games : Boring shooting scenes followed by explosion. Rinse and repeat
Multiplayer : involves elements that have been around in games for along time. Seriously. I played the first modern warfare and just though .... this is alot like firearms ... a mod for half life made 5 years before hand. Pc gamers can easily get access to games and mods that are far superior to modern warfare 2. Console games can easily find games that are far better or at least on the same par as modern warfare two that are cheaper also. Just look on the pre owned shelfs and you'll find them.

Examples of first person shooters with better stories + single player gameplay on xbox:
Half Life 2
Bioshock
Call of Juarez
Far Cry 2

Multiplayer games that are just as fun on xbox:
Bad Company
Team Fortress
Far Cry 2
Prey(yeah Really... You can walk on the celling)
Left 4 dead 1+2

Annoys me how i have friends who tell me that modern warfare 2 is the best thing since sliced bread and then 15 minutes playing the many games + mods i have they soon change there tune :)
Far Cry 2 better single player and multi-player? i beg to differ, multi-player is awful and the single player drags and bores me, and im pretty sure many other people as well.

and haven't you thought that people also buy this game, not because of the hype, but because they just wanted MW2 =S seriously, not everyone follows hype...me for example. i didn't follow it, i just got it cause i liked the first one...and oo look i also like the second, although i admit it didn't deserve the reviews it got.
 

SextusMaximus

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Seems you're the one throwing a tantrum.

If any of what you said actually happened you:

1. Laugh at them.
2. Get on with life.

You don't

1. Get mad at them.
2. Go off in a tantrum.
3. Make a thread about it with a redundant poll.
 

skullbone

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infinity ward did it of course so they can sell the map packs and in this economic climate i can see that as a fair thing but as a console and pc gamer i have to say it does annoy me a bit but at least pc gamers dont have to wait hours to find a game whereas at least on the 360 you have to wait hours for a game.
 

Sebenko

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Kalezian said:
Sebenko said:
Kalezian said:
actually, I paid right around $60 USD for it, just like WaW and CoD4.......oh wait, I see what your getting at, your a PC player and your pissed that you had to spend more money for the first time ever.
You're, you're you're

You're- you are Eg. "You are annoyed at having to pay an increased price"
Your- Belongs you you, Eg. "Is that your post which is filled with errors?"
Your point is invalid for this purpose, but for the sake of argument, I will pretend that you're going to listen.
ooohhhhh, Ive wanted to use these two for a long time:

James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher.

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.


by the way, both are grammatically correct, and if you don't know how or why then please stop pointing out simple mistakes such as "you're/your".
Well I'm not going to stop pointing out mistakes, because I'm aware of the reasons behind those.
Buffalo- creature
buffalo- bully
buffalo- place.

And using them forms a sentence.

And even if I was unaware of those sentences, I wouldn't stop, as they are relatively obscure single examples. Your/You're, on the other hand, is an everyday term and it not difficult to work out.
 

Christemo

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Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
thread won, move on.
 

Amarok

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It's the internet. Everything is overblown. Including your reaction to the mewtwo hate. Chill aht.
 

johnman

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The fact that they hiked the price right up then made the story 6 hours long doesnt help either
DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
We are not complainging we didnt get anything extra, we were complianing that they removed whats been a staple of PC gaming for more than a decade and then charging more for it.

Pc gamers have not been spoiled brats, its console gamers who get (In my opinion) an inferior experiance, and since they are use to it, they see the Pc gamers as whiny pricks when when they should really be trying to get a service at the same level as the PC gets. Free online service, modding community and free DLC just being a few examples
 

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I'm going to say this one last time.
MW2 for console is a good game.It doesn't do anything new,but it's a solid game with good multiplayer and a short,fast paced campaign.

On the PC however,it takes out content that has existed on basically every game with multiplayer,leaving PC gamers with a subpar multiplayer and a disappointingly short single player campaign.
To top that off,they expected PC gamers to pay more money.

My little rate is biased though because I've disliked the CoD franchise since they released CoD3.
CoD1 was a masterpiece,CoD2 was awe inspiring.After that,they just released a new game every year taking elements of the previous title and copying it the new one.
Hell,I'm pretty sure the crosshair is the same since CoD2.

In short,don't talk about things you can't understand,don't try to impose your views on me,and let me be angry at a company whose products repeatedly didn't live up to my expectations.
 

pirateninj4

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Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
You sir have won the coveted OP ownage post award. Feel free to draw a massive fist on a piece of your own A4 paper.


DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
OK.. I know you're new here but I have to let you know that posts like this are generally frowned upon.

Don't flame other platforms and insult your fellow gamers.

Also, I'm a 360 gamer and even I know that consoles don't have better graphics, that's a very misinformed statement.
Also, yes please. Don't come here and start that console V PC crap. These boards are popular with people who know better and who Don't Care.
 

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Sasquatch99 said:
*Face hits wall hard*

Seriously. What is the point of this?
Actually, don't tell me. I thought we had got past all the shit about MW2 and it's problems. But no. Someone had to throw a hissy fit and post a rant against those who don't like which is flamebait tastic.
If you like this game, make a reasonable argument instead of baiting the PC community and making them look like a bunch of elitist *CENSORED* for god's sake. If you can't do that, don't type anything. At all. No wonder some PC gamers think console gamers are morons when stuff like this gets posted. Jesus.

We are still the master race though - aren't we?
 

Dys

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Kalezian said:
Dys said:
So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?

The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1

The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
actually, I paid right around $60 USD for it, just like WaW and CoD4.......oh wait, I see what your getting at, your a PC player and your pissed that you had to spend more money for the first time ever.

kinda funny, dont you think?


also, yes, it was overblown, remember the steam group that was made in protest of not having dedicated servers? and then at launch every fucking member was playing MW2? remember how people cried "BAWWWW IZ 2 LAGGY [small] note: this is how pc gamers talk, FACT. [/small] GIEF DEDICATED SURVERS NAO!" and yet there was little to no lag at launch, with the exception if your internet connection didnt suck, as I stated in numerous threads also.

yes, because a small group of PC gamers went fan-boy elitist on people like a majority of FLAC'ers ironically, people thought it was the cool thing to do.


my question; if the game is horrible, why are people still, STILL, playing it?
If Britney Spears is white trash, why do people still worship her? If smoking kills, why do people do it? If George W.Bush is a moron, how come so many people supported him?

Oh wait, no that's a stupid argument, people are stupid and will support whatever has the most persuasive marketing. Note my comparison to the Jonas Brothers, that wasn't a random choice of words, my opinion is that the two are comparable, both popular because of clever marketing.

As for the people playing it on the first day, so what? Only a minority of the people who didn't buy the game felt the need to announce to the world that they were taking part in a pretentious boycott. A page of a steam fan group showing people playing something they claim to be boycotting changes nothing, it's still nothing special. Not to mention how these people are obvious fans of the serious, caring enough to petition the developers to change it...

Little to no lag at launch? Of course not, except, y'know, for the majority of consumers who don't happen to live in the U.S.A. You see, this is why people get so pissed off with Americans, just because one system is appropriate for you guys doesn't mean it is for the rest of the world. I live in Australia, and I don't pretend to be a part of any pretentious boycott, I never bought modern warfare 2 but a few of my friends did. I've played the game a fair bit, and like every other matchmaking system I've used, it's terrible. GFWL failed for this exact reason, I'm not supporting a poor system tacked onto a mediocre game because it's a part of a familiar franchise, I'm sorry. Different platforms have different requirements, just because matchmaking is the best and most appropriate option for the consoles doesn't make it so for computers (I'll skim past the 'not all computers are born equal rant and just assume that you're intelligent enough to see what it's not the same). Oh, here's another fun addition to my argument, one of my friends who has it, hasit on PS3 and before it was patched it was unplayable due to lag, instores the game costs $110au here, kinda pricy for something that doesn't work (it does work flawlessly now, since the patch he has been able to play fine). In essence, this game is far superior on consoles than it is on PC (though as I pointed out, on release it was equally shit on at least the PS3), because the PC was a 'dumb' port that wasn't in any way optimized for the platform. If you can't be fucked releasing a game on a platform, don't. I really won't hold it against you, but it's bullshit to drop the standard of games while bumping up the price, I understand that it's an easy way to make a quick buck, but it makes you an asshole.

The game on Steam costs $90. That's the cost of it online, steam is typcially cheaper than boxed copies in Australia. I recently bought myself a new copy of the collectors edition of Demon's Souls (unfortunately it's not available anymore, however here is a linkto the base copy on playasia, as you can see it's about $71au). As you can see, a game on bluray costs $20 less, $15 after you account for postage. A few months ago, a game called brutal legend came out, I bought that on my xbox 360 (Yeah, I have all current gen consoles, assuming I'm a PC fanboy makes you look a little stupid at this point) and it cost $75 new on release from a local electronics store. Point is, I'm happy to pay the going rate for games, but not above average price for a sequal to a well established PC franchize that has been developed exclusively for consoles and ported to the PC at the last second.

***** and moan all you want about PC games being cheaper than PS3 and Xbox 360 titles, but bear in mind the dics (especially blu rays) are not cheap, and that you wouldn't pay the same for a game release on PS2 as you would for the same game on PS3 (all the guitar hero games cost less on wii and PS2, where are all the people bitching about PC games being cheaper everytime one is released?).

Again, to reiterate, I will not apologize for thinking a subpar game is shit, and I'll hate it as much as I feel appropriate. I never said it was the worst thing to happen to gaming. Swine flu wasn't the worst thing to happen to humanity yet I still hate that, just because worse things have existed doesn't suddenly make it less susceptable to my hate. The game is a peice of shit and the hate it gets (largely due to it's immense success despite it's beyond mediocre gameplay) is 100% justified. It honestly shits me how all the console only gamers sit there smugly while what is a shared hobby between platforms gets cheapened by this shit, PC gamers are worried that this will lead to paid subscriptions for all FPS multiplayers, why the fuck would you think consoles are immune to this trend if it begins on the PC?
 

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DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and
superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Obvious troll is obvious.

OT: Meh, enjoyed MW2 for a little more than a month, got new computer, tested CoD 4 and realized why I loved it in the first place i.e. everything in the game is golden. Not saying MW2 is a bad game, it's just a lousy PC game. Though I can understand why IW don't give a flying fuck about us since in their eyes we are all pirating scums[footnote]All hails Valve![/footnote]. But that is not an excuse to rip everything that was excellent in the first game, that will say, excellent maps, excellent guiding system and excellent guns. (Why the fuck didn't they add the fucking Dragunov, it was skinned ready and looked amazing! Why?!)

No Dragunov, No M1911, No fun.
 
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danpascooch said:
All of the PC users who HATE MW2 WITH A PASSION! Just because of some of Infinity Ward's new policies are (in my opinion) mostly whiny douchebags with a ridiculous ability to hold a grudge. Yes they made you pay ten dollars more, yes they dropped dedicated servers, yes both of those things suck, yes you should be angry.

No you should not be THIS angry, and no you should not think the game is the "biggest fail of an FPS ever!" or that Infinity Ward is "The worst company EVER!"

Here's what you do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that it is overall a good game
4.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that the company has *some* merits
5.) let rage simmer down to annoyance
6.) Buy or don't buy future IW products based on level of annoyance
7.) In extremely angry cases maybe write a letter or something

Here's what you DON'T do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) Get more pissed
4.) Throw a fucking tantrum
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
6.) Use website to engage in a massively overblown "gamers scorned" smear campaign
7.) Call it the "worst FPS in history!!1!1" (A lot of people)
8.) Call Infinity Ward the "worst company in history!!1!1" (a lot of people)
9.) Make a petition (MWfail.com)
10.) Make another petition (MWfail.com)
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
12.) Spam their forums in an attempt to create disorder (MWfail.com)
13.) Try to create cheats and hacks to prove the game is unstable and sucks (MWfail.com)
14.) Throw another bigger fucking tantrum
15.) Never give up your uncontrollable rage, and call everything related to IW the worst thing ever, forever, with no regard to the actual quality of the product in question.
So you thought you'd help use all my bringing this back into public knowledge and dredging up the hate again bravo you idiot, flame baiting annoyance. Bravo you deserve a clap.


More on topic yes a lot of the hate is deserved because IW fucked over the people who bought the game whe nthe franchise started and no it is not elitist for wanting something that has been there in all PC games since the begining.

EG.1) What if Sony decided to charge for all online services would it be fair to ***** and moan about since you have always had everything free online?

EG.2) Would it be ok to complain if Microsoft decided to up it's online sub price by a $/euro/whatever15 a year?

EG.3) Would it be ok to complain if Nintendo released a patch making all normal Wii controllers useless and forcing people to the Wii+?

To answer all those for you yes it would be ok to complain that is why pc gamers were complaining. Price hike we could live take away dedicated servers, console commands, mods and lean and you start to take the piss as it took more effort and cost them more money to do these than if they had left them in. Since I was a paying customer of IW yes I have rights and as a person helping to keep them in business I want value for what I pay for. I'm not paying 60 euro of my money for a good but not amazing single player with a half done online from a game ported from a console.

imahobbit4062 said:
People bitching because they are getting the same treatment as everyone else, then they ***** about the length of the campaign which was the same length as the one they loved.
People are idiots, learn this.
Just to make this clear you know Counter Strike that was a mod so yes we are allowed to complain about losing what we have had since day one of PC gaming this is the point that some people don't seem to get. I don't see why console players don't complain about not having dedicated servers as the system is far superior to P2P and actually prevents pirating.

DOCTOR DEVICE said:
PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)

Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Ok I can you are new here so let me say this make sure you know what you are talking about before you post. Pc gamers are not spoiled elitist brtas that is like me saying that all console players are idiots who scream down mics and are all under the age of 12. For fuck sake with the people going on about extra things nearly everything that is extra is online on the PC because consoles are stripped down PC how can't handle what a PC can. Even though lean could be on consoles.

To sum up what I think about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and because of that people are entitled to think it is shit or the second coming of Jesus but stop making stupid threads about it that are flamebait. If you don't understand the issue or the limiations of your platform you shouldn't post in such threads so audaciously with such zeal that make you look worse than the PC gamers who signed this petition.