Poll: Necromorphs vs Flood

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Geo Da Sponge

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Sonicron said:
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Necromorphs eat dead bodies. Nids eat biomass. Flood eat everything.
What do you think Necromorphs and Flood are...?

They're biomass. All of them. One Tyranid hive fleet (even just a splinter fleet) would be the doom of both other factions.
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Why? I know it's the cool thing on these forums to go on about how all powerful and epic the Warhammer 40K races are, but has anyone actually thought about this? Tyranids: an entirely organic army. Flood: capable of infecting and directly controlling any significantly sized organic being. One infection flood form could infect an entire Tyranid hive fleet and the only easy way to stop them properly is an orbital bombardment, something the Tyranids can't do. Add to that the fact that the Flood gain access to the knowledge of those they infect so it's entirely possible they could hijack the Tyranid hive mind.
 

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Whenever I saw the flood, I laughed loudly and got my Energy Sword/Shotgun out.
I don't even want to play Dead Space because the Necromorphs scare the shit out of me.

So yea I think the necromorphs would win.
 

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Flood win when it comes to damage and power. However, I like the Necromorphs much more overall, mainly because they scare the hell outta me.
 

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Can't tje Flood infect plant material also, or at least slowly convert it give enough time? I seem to remember there being Flood plants on their planet in Halo Wars. And if Nids were attacking the Flood, couldn't the flood just bombard them with Carrier Forms or their weird octupus drop pods? Eeverytime one died the Nids would have at leat a half dozen infectors to deal with.
 

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You are mistaken. Intelligence is required if you want to take over the world. Flood and Necromorphs don't care about ruling it. They just want to destroy it. IF either one was intent on world domination intelligence is an asset. But when it comes to world destruction it is a weakness.

And that was just one example. There is plenty in movie history. Freddy almost always gets taken down by his pride. Bud the zombie helped the survivors. The list just goes on and on.
You sir made me face palm hardcore. Flood want to infected everything in its path. Not really kill it. The Gravemind believe it is superior to everything and it truly is if it was real. Its able to gain the memory and knowledge of its infected victims. learning EVERYTHING about them. Their strengths, weakness, possible how to fire their own weapons as well as use their vehicles.

I don't know much about nerco, they do seem like a threat but come on. If you wanted something to infected the whole universe which would you choose? nerco or flood. Flood is the better choice as they can infect world leaders or military leaders and learn all their tactics and use it against them.

To the Gravemind, he is playing chess with all the other races. Moving one piece at a time and learning how the other player plays and BAM. Checkmate man. As well as GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!
And your whole post explains why the Necros are a more frightening force to deal with. The flood are akin to a trained soldier. Necros are suicide bombers. With the soldier they will use tactics. You can counter those tactics (hard as it may be but not entirely impossible). Necromorphs just keep coming until they deplete your resources. There is no tactics. Sheer numbers will defeat any strategy any day. Pirahna are smaller and stupider than a tiger. But put them on an equal playing field and the pirahna are the deadlier force hands down.
Flood as just about the same number if not more then the nercos. Also you are forgetting that once a necro is dead..their dead. With a flood you have to make sure you destory the whole body as a flood infection form will just regenerate it and BAM..another flood combat form ready to fight. Also the pure forms are hard as hell to kill and will change its form to a range or tank form if need be.
You misunderstand what I am saying. Flood have a survival instinct. The fact that they are willing to change to win alone says that. Necromorphs don't care if they die. That gives them an advantage. Necromorphs have nothing to lose and that is how they fight. That is far more dangerous. I am not debating who can do what and where. What I am saying you give me the choice of fighting a planet of Flood or a planet of Necromorphs I'll take the Flood any day. Sure I am gonna most likely gonna lose but at least I would have a sporting chance. On the Necro planet it is just a matter time til I run out of resources. My chances of survival are nil. The only thing I can do is back myself into a corner and hold out as long as I can.
 

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This thread seems to have turned into a giant nerd-off.

OT: Necromorphs, just because I enjoyed Dead Space more than Halo.
 

Sonicron

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Sonicron said:
paragon1 said:
Necromorphs eat dead bodies. Nids eat biomass. Flood eat everything.
What do you think Necromorphs and Flood are...?

They're biomass. All of them. One Tyranid hive fleet (even just a splinter fleet) would be the doom of both other factions.
...

Why? I know it's the cool thing on these forums to go on about how all powerful and epic the Warhammer 40K races are, but has anyone actually thought about this? Tyranids: an entirely organic army. Flood: capable of infecting and directly controlling any significantly sized organic being. One infection flood form could infect an entire Tyranid hive fleet and the only easy way to stop them properly is an orbital bombardment, something the Tyranids can't do. Add to that the fact that the Flood gain access to the knowledge of those they infect so it's entirely possible they could hijack the Tyranid hive mind.
Nids have a head start, so to speak. They are literally innumerable. And even if a Flood form managed to infest a Tyranid organism, the others would just dispose of it (it's a question of numbers in this case, Nids would overwhelm the Flood in a metaphorical heartbeat, I think). Hijacking the hivemind is also out of the question, because even if the Flood get their greedy mitts on a synapse creature, the link is easily severed, and seeing how the hivemind is completely decentralized, taking it over isn't a possiblity.

Yes, yes, I know, it's all just theory. How should I know if a biological feedback screech is possible or not? I simply don't think it can be done. Maybe the Flood could tap into the knowledge of the hivemind, but I don't think they could bend it to their will.

By the way, don't the Tyranids basically do the same as the Flood when it comes to utilizing an enemy's strengths? I know they don't literally take over bodies, but they do incorporate possible design strengths of defeated organisms into their own biostructure.
 

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As much as I enjoyed the Flood levels in Halo, I can't help think why these mutated creatures use human and alien weaponry when they are clearly little more than feral beasts. As for Nercomorphs, these represent a more 'realistic' versions of infected and mutated humans.

Therefore, I prefer the Necromorphs as they are more frightening and as realistic as any realisation of an alien race.
 

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I say Necromorphs I mean doesn't the Flood need the human alive in order for it to become a Flood? I just assume if a human is throw into a pit like area with both of them and chances are the human would be dead and thus become a Nercomorph.
 
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I love how this thread is about Flood and Necromorphs and people think it is relevant to talk about other things...

Anyway

OT: Flood would win, they are super intelligent and can use technology.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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Sonicron said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Sonicron said:
paragon1 said:
Necromorphs eat dead bodies. Nids eat biomass. Flood eat everything.
What do you think Necromorphs and Flood are...?

They're biomass. All of them. One Tyranid hive fleet (even just a splinter fleet) would be the doom of both other factions.
...

Why? I know it's the cool thing on these forums to go on about how all powerful and epic the Warhammer 40K races are, but has anyone actually thought about this? Tyranids: an entirely organic army. Flood: capable of infecting and directly controlling any significantly sized organic being. One infection flood form could infect an entire Tyranid hive fleet and the only easy way to stop them properly is an orbital bombardment, something the Tyranids can't do. Add to that the fact that the Flood gain access to the knowledge of those they infect so it's entirely possible they could hijack the Tyranid hive mind.
Nids have a head start, so to speak. They are literally innumerable. And even if a Flood form managed to infest a Tyranid organism, the others would just dispose of it (it's a question of numbers in this case, Nids would overwhelm the Flood in a metaphorical heartbeat, I think). Hijacking the hivemind is also out of the question, because even if the Flood get their greedy mitts on a synapse creature, the link is easily severed, and seeing how the hivemind is completely decentralized, taking it over isn't a possiblity.

Yes, yes, I know, it's all just theory. How should I know if a biological feedback screech is possible or not? I simply don't think it can be done. Maybe the Flood could tap into the knowledge of the hivemind, but I don't think they could bend it to their will.

By the way, don't the Tyranids basically do the same as the Flood when it comes to utilizing an enemy's strengths? I know they don't literally take over bodies, but they do incorporate possible design strengths of defeated organisms into their own biostructure.
Well the Tyranids only have a head start in numbers if you're counting from the Flood's position in the Halo games. Before then they tore through all the life in the galaxy and brought down the Forerunners, an incredibly advanced race. Considering that the Tyranids have also done that, we should consider them on an equal footing in terms of numbers. It also seems unlikely that other tyranids could deal with the infected ones that quickly; compare the physical abilities of a human to an infected human (especially how far they can jump) and then imagine this down to a tyranid. Consider also that, unless you have personal shields, the basic infection forms are very deadly. They've been shown to be able to dig through a marine's armour, through his rib cage and then turn him into a full combat form in about five seconds flat.

Also the Flood wouldn't have to take control of the entire hive mind, they could attempt to do so on a smaller scale, using synapse creatures they've gained control of to give contradictory orders to uninfected non-synapse creatures.

As for the Tyranids utilizing an enemies strengths, they have to hoover up an entire planet and spend a lot of time incorporating that into their next genration of predators. The Flood can do it in seconds.
 

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To be honest, I'm more interested to find out what happens if a Headcrab tries to "couple" with a host who already has a Facehugger on it. Or vice versa.

Cause if it were a Facehugger on a Headcrab zombie, then the whole chest-bursting bit's already been done, so does that make it easier to get out or does it just fall out of the shattered ribcage pre-germination like some kind of alien embryo?

And if it were a Headcrab on a Facehugger corpse, then it would probably eat the Facehugger, but then the Alien would explode out of it and kill it maybe?

Shit, I don't even know, but it would be awesome to spectate the whole event in either case.
 

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Well Necromorphs are mutant corpses and Flood are mutated people/aliens so there's no reason the two couldn't co-exist.

Flood get the living subjects and when the hosts die the Necromorphs get the corpses and anything left of the corpses when the Necromorphs are slain can be used as Flood material.

It could work.
I see the start of a beautiful relationship :)



Also, in a fight between the Necromorphs and the Flood, the Flood would win, however in terms of which would be more deadly to humanity it would have to be the Necromorphs -- they don't just eat you like the Flood do, they give you horrific nightmares, drive you crazy and cause you to commit suicide.
 

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WILL PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SAYING TYRANIDS?!! this is about the flood and the morphs anyways im going flood for a few simple reasons
A. No need for a marker, can infect anything at any time.
B. Never seem to die (the fore runners used a ring and they came back).
C. Can use guns
D.Grave mind has all the inteligence of every single flood infected being there is and has been. (infect isaac or someone else who knows about markers and you know how to destroy them.)
E. Can infect morphs
 

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Random question would the flood not infect a ship or planet of Tyranids then attack another Tyranid infested world so you would have a infected tyranid vs normal tyranid war.

If that would happen the tyranids would never be able to win as the biomass used by the infect tyranids would increase there size.

So you would have infected tyranids and the flood vs tyranids