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DefunctTheory

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Shio said:
Sober Thal said:
Go to Deviant Art if you want a free for all, why muck up this site?
Would you say the same for the off-topic discussion forum? The religion and politics forum?

I see a forum for the exchange and sharing of art and ideas to be more relevant to this site's ideals than either of the aforementioned.

But you are of course welcome to disagree.
All message boards have an Off-Topic forums (It's the Misc. of the site), and this particular site has a R&P forum for the sole purpose of keeping the Off Topic forum relatively clean of, well... the madness that can occur is R&P.

Contrast that with your idea, which is something entirely different. And not relevant in the least to this sites content.

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Founded in 2005, The Escapist is a leading video gaming destination offering video game enthusiasts high-quality, innovative and exclusive content with a considered approach to its audience. The mouthpiece of the gaming generation, The Escapist aims to capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture by way of in-depth features, thought provoking articles and relevant columns authored by leading video game authorities, as well as cutting-edge video shorts, engaging forums and robust social media elements that incorporate the video gaming experience. Honored with both a Webby Award and People's Voice Award in 2008, The Escapist is responsible for the web's most viewed video game review series, Zero Punctuation, in addition to introducing the first-of-its-kind Internet Film Festival for Gamers and the March Mayhem game developer competition. The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 25 million page views each month.
 

Erana

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I'm honestly a bit hesitant about it.
The three big reasons for having an art subforum are for either critique, showing off, or attempting to create some sort of art-based user activity.

The advice forum is open game for anyone asking for artistic critique. (Which I have very rarely seen people take advantage of)

Showing off one's art is relegated to the "Artist in thee" thread. I mean, one of the primary ideals of the Escapist forum is discussion. If one isn't asking for critique, which already has a home here, then a thread in which one posts art is just various ways of saying, "I like it" or "I don't like it."

As for creating artsy community events, the staff just sticky a thread in a relevant existing subforum, and user-created events are occasionally made in the off-topic section. If you're making something specifically to amuse and entertain the Escapist community, you'll get some love. Just go search "Adventures in Ninja Cookery."
Not to mention, we have art usergroups.

The killer for me on this idea is that there really isn't much of a place for discussion relevant to the current direction of the Escapist. I'd understand creating a new subforum to cater to an apparent pre-existing audience, (as was the reason for the Advice, Forum Games and RP, and Religion and Politics subforms) but art threads here happen maybe once every month or two.

This idea has occurred to me on and off a few times since I joined the Escapist, and I keep coming to these conclusions, despite all the ways the Escapist community has changed over the years. Its a nice idea, but all in all, the notion seems to be more about fulfilling the artistic whim of the person thinking it than serving the community.
 

Wintermoot

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isn't that what Deviant art is for?
I don,t think that ti would help since not allot of people post art.
 

Shio

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AccursedTheory said:
Shio said:
Sober Thal said:
Go to Deviant Art if you want a free for all, why muck up this site?
Would you say the same for the off-topic discussion forum? The religion and politics forum?

I see a forum for the exchange and sharing of art and ideas to be more relevant to this site's ideals than either of the aforementioned.

But you are of course welcome to disagree.
All message boards have an Off-Topic forums (It's the Misc. of the site), and this particular site has a R&P forum for the sole purpose of keeping the Off Topic forum relatively clean of, well... the madness that can occur is R&P.

Contrast that with your idea, which is something entirely different. And not relevant in the least to this sites content.

About the Escapist said:
Founded in 2005, The Escapist is a leading video gaming destination offering video game enthusiasts high-quality, innovative and exclusive content with a considered approach to its audience. The mouthpiece of the gaming generation, The Escapist aims to capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture by way of in-depth features, thought provoking articles and relevant columns authored by leading video game authorities, as well as cutting-edge video shorts, engaging forums and robust social media elements that incorporate the video gaming experience. Honored with both a Webby Award and People's Voice Award in 2008, The Escapist is responsible for the web's most viewed video game review series, Zero Punctuation, in addition to introducing the first-of-its-kind Internet Film Festival for Gamers and the March Mayhem game developer competition. The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 25 million page views each month.


I would argue that if one is going down that road, there should only be a gaming discussion forum and the mods should act harshly on those who attempt to discuss off-topic subjects or roleplay. I think art has more of a place here than two forums which you point out exist solely to keep the "real" forum clean.

Sober Thal said:
Shio said:
Sober Thal said:
Go to Deviant Art if you want a free for all, why muck up this site?
Would you say the same for the off-topic discussion forum? The religion and politics forum?

I see a forum for the exchange and sharing of art and ideas to be more relevant to this site's ideals than either of the aforementioned.

But you are of course welcome to disagree.
I see what you mean, but still disagree. I look at it as 'why add more clutter where it's not needed'.

Plus, it will only open the flood gates for people promoting 'crap'.

I like the idea that this site hates spam bots used to promote 3rd party stuff. What you suggest is a free for all self promotion spam fest. I look at this site as having more class than that. I don't mean to say what you suggest is crappy, bad, meaningless, foul, repulsive, or any other thing I can think to call a bad name... I just worry that it will open the flood gates to such things.

It would be a lot more work to moderate such an idea, and I think it would be abused by many.

Sorry to sound rude, it's directed at the 'possible potential' for the idea, not at you personally.

Cheers!
Not rude at all. You're just stating your opinion.
 

Spade Lead

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FalloutJack said:
Interesting, but why does the quote "No John, you ARE the demons." spring to mind?
Is that some kind of Halo quote? (I assume not from the games, judging by later posts.)
 

Spade Lead

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Shio said:
Sober Thal said:
Go to Deviant Art if you want a free for all, why muck up this site?
Would you say the same for the off-topic discussion forum? The religion and politics forum?

I see a forum for the exchange and sharing of art and ideas to be more relevant to this site's ideals than either of the aforementioned.

But you are of course welcome to disagree.
They created a separate forum for Religion and Politics because it was becoming flame-war inducing troll-bait. Thus, they moved it to it's own forum where the everyday users wouldn't have to worry about people posting thirty different "Try George W. Bush as a War Criminal" threads.
 

DefunctTheory

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Shio said:
AccursedTheory said:
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I would argue that if one is going down that road, there should only be a gaming discussion forum and the mods should act harshly on those who attempt to discuss off-topic subjects or roleplay. I think art has more of a place here than two forums which you point out exist solely to keep the "real" forum clean.
No, R&P is to keep Off Topic clean. And Off Topic is a Forum that EVERY message board has.

Unless they want to try and manage this mess (Which is whats going to happen if we start giving out sub-forums to everyone).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/boardlist.php?category=5
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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thiosk said:
I certainly wouldn't ever browse it.

Link it on your books of face or maybe do that twitter with the rest of the deviant artists? Ya damn whippersnappers and yer music
*waves cane*

Get back to bed you old foggy, can't you see a new generation is running things now!

*pops out teeth to clean them*

OT: Not only would this come into conflict with the Advertising rules on this site, it would probably just end up being a "LOOK WHAT I MADE!!!111" fest. If you need someone to critique your work, why not make a Deviantart account and then link it to a thread in the Advice forum?
 

FalloutJack

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Spade Lead said:
FalloutJack said:
Interesting, but why does the quote "No John, you ARE the demons." spring to mind?
Is that some kind of Halo quote? (I assume not from the games, judging by later posts.)
FalloutJack has never played Halo. The reference, as the OP got it, was to a fanfiction...of Doom.
 

Berethond

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No. No more sub-forums. They just splinter the community, and are annoying. If you want an art section, go to an art forum.
 

Shio

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FalloutJack said:
Spade Lead said:
FalloutJack said:
Interesting, but why does the quote "No John, you ARE the demons." spring to mind?
Is that some kind of Halo quote? (I assume not from the games, judging by later posts.)
FalloutJack has never played Halo. The reference, as the OP got it, was to a fanfiction...of Doom.
And it is totally awesome!

Berethond said:
No. No more sub-forums. They just splinter the community, and are annoying. If you want an art section, go to an art forum.
You make a point, but I don't see it as meaning much. Example: some people use only the off-topic forum here. Others rarely leave the religious section. I think providing somewhere for people to share and discuss art is more relevant here than all other forums bar the actual gaming discussion.
 

Fitzcaraldo

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AccursedTheory said:
Shio said:
AccursedTheory said:
Much Needed Snip
I would argue that if one is going down that road, there should only be a gaming discussion forum and the mods should act harshly on those who attempt to discuss off-topic subjects or roleplay. I think art has more of a place here than two forums which you point out exist solely to keep the "real" forum clean.
No, R&P is to keep Off Topic clean. And Off Topic is a Forum that EVERY message board has.

Unless they want to try and manage this mess (Which is whats going to happen if we start giving out sub-forums to everyone).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/boardlist.php?category=5
Oh my God, a sub-forum dedicated to graphing calculators? Someone needs to talk to those people. But otherwise, I think an art forum could be cool, but it really mustn't snowball into anything like gamefaqs.
 

DefunctTheory

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Shio said:
I think providing somewhere for people to share and discuss art is more relevant here than all other forums bar the actual gaming discussion.
You keep saying that. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Perhaps this can clear up some things.

Fitzcaraldo said:
AccursedTheory said:
No, R&P is to keep Off Topic clean. And Off Topic is a Forum that EVERY message board has.

Unless they want to try and manage this mess (Which is whats going to happen if we start giving out sub-forums to everyone).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/boardlist.php?category=5
Oh my God, a sub-forum dedicated to graphing calculators? Someone needs to talk to those people. But otherwise, I think an art forum could be cool, but it really mustn't snowball into anything like gamefaqs.
Did you see that the sub-forum for Anime had it's own sub-forums? It's like descending into Hell, only instead of 9 circles, they have a shit ton of descending tunnels that just keep getting deeper and deeper into the bowels of damnation.
 

viranimus

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On the one hand, considering roughly 2-3 times a week theres some sort of "Heres my stuff, share your stuff" sort of thread popping up, so it makes sense to have a centralized location for it.

On the other hand... Isnt that what deviantart is for?
 

Shio

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AccursedTheory said:
You keep saying that. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Perhaps this can clear up some things.
Sure.

In my view, art, be it in the form of story telling, poetry, music or design, has more place on a website dedicated to "the gaming lifestyle", something defined by its artistic place in society, than off-topic discussion and politics. One could use the same argument to suggest that if you want to talk off-topic, go to a chat room.

Again, that is just my subjective opinion.
 

Fitzcaraldo

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AccursedTheory said:
Shio said:
I think providing somewhere for people to share and discuss art is more relevant here than all other forums bar the actual gaming discussion.
You keep saying that. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Perhaps this can clear up some things.

Fitzcaraldo said:
AccursedTheory said:
No, R&P is to keep Off Topic clean. And Off Topic is a Forum that EVERY message board has.

Unless they want to try and manage this mess (Which is whats going to happen if we start giving out sub-forums to everyone).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/boardlist.php?category=5
Oh my God, a sub-forum dedicated to graphing calculators? Someone needs to talk to those people. But otherwise, I think an art forum could be cool, but it really mustn't snowball into anything like gamefaqs.
Did you see that the sub-forum for Anime had it's own sub-forums? It's like descending into Hell, only instead of 9 circles, they have a shit ton of descending tunnels that just keep getting deeper and deeper into the bowels of damnation.
Really? I didn't notice that, I saw the graphing calculator one, got scared and closed the window.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Probably not, but it should certainly be given its own area on the forum.

Fitzcaraldo said:
AccursedTheory said:
Shio said:
I think providing somewhere for people to share and discuss art is more relevant here than all other forums bar the actual gaming discussion.
You keep saying that. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. Perhaps this can clear up some things.

Fitzcaraldo said:
AccursedTheory said:
No, R&P is to keep Off Topic clean. And Off Topic is a Forum that EVERY message board has.

Unless they want to try and manage this mess (Which is whats going to happen if we start giving out sub-forums to everyone).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/boardlist.php?category=5
Oh my God, a sub-forum dedicated to graphing calculators? Someone needs to talk to those people. But otherwise, I think an art forum could be cool, but it really mustn't snowball into anything like gamefaqs.
Did you see that the sub-forum for Anime had it's own sub-forums? It's like descending into Hell, only instead of 9 circles, they have a shit ton of descending tunnels that just keep getting deeper and deeper into the bowels of damnation.
Really? I didn't notice that, I saw the graphing calculator one, got scared and closed the window.
And that's why no sane people use the gamefaqs forums.