Poll: Nintendo's Quality In Consoles (i.e. Motion Controls and 3D)

[Johny64]

It doesn't really matter. They are improving with the casual side though.

But at the price of alienating the hardcore gamers. I'd be fine if they could find a way to even it out. Hell, the PC did, anyone else can too.

Nintendo isn't about whether they have hardcore gamers or not. They only care about money and only money like a profit business is supposed to do.

But a gaming company shouldn't be about money. They should be about the gamers. And about the fun in games!

You could say plenty of things in this world that SHOULDN'T be done and what SHOULD, but no one has set the standard for this. Look around you, every game company that can afford to make your favorite games are very greedy, and have done greedy things

 

[Ice Car]

But then I rarely play my wii, I have a MANS CONSOLE

*Sigh* As if I haven't seen this enough. Are you from my school? Everyone treats Nintendo's consoles like they are for babies and camping in buildings shooting a bunch of people passing by is a "Man's Console". Nintendo appeals more to the casual side but yeah, we all decide to ignore the good games and franchises they have and look at the crappy games they put out.

If it's the lack of good games or ideas that's the problem, I suppose you want them to release a new Zelda game or Mario game every year? Just like that precious Call of Duty everyone so loves? Then those franchises would be getting crappier and crappier. I like to see my games made to the best of their ability, not rushed games to be released every year. I play the games/franchises that I have loved for a long time, not the games all of you try to mention to back up the fact that "Nintendo is for casual peoples lol and Nintendo sucks because blah". Nobody focuses on the franchises that work and are successes and great games every release, and instead they focus on the casual games nobody buys.

Why am I the only one who buys the tried-and-true, quality games they make and not the so-called "casual games" they put out? Apparently to all you people those games are non-existent.

 

[SovietSecrets]

I don't understand how you can call 3D a gimmick when its barely been out. Seriously give it some time first. Might actually add something to games.

 

[Phoenix_XIII]

the 3DS is the best hand held on the market and the Wii has the best motion controls ever made (i despise Sony and Microsoft trying to cash in on Nintendo's ideas)

And if those are gimmicks, then yeah, Gimmicks are good.

It doesn't really matter. They are improving with the casual side though.

But at the price of alienating the hardcore gamers. I'd be fine if they could find a way to even it out. Hell, the PC did, anyone else can too.

All "Hardcore" gamers want is HD Graphics and blood, at least the casual market has some worth while wants like smooth gameplay, art style, aesthetics, all form a very unique gaming experience.

Not all Hardcore gamers want just HD and Blood. I enjoyed Mirror's Edge, especially when I didn't have to shoot anyone. And there are a lot of arty games for Hardcore gamers. In Amnesia, you couldn't fight for crap and only could run. An Indie game is doing better in my eyes than most big name games are.

 

[Bakuryukun]

I think Nintendo is doing just fine, I'm pretty indifferent to motion controls and 3D by themselves, it's all in how developers USE them in their games that make the difference to me. I have plenty of Wii and DS games that I adore and I imagine that will go for the 3DS as well once it gets more of it's games out. Let's not go ahead and pretend that Nintendo hasn't always had a thing for gimmicky accessories either, all you have to do is look the LONG list of accessories for the NES and the Virtual Boy, at least THESE gimmicks actually function the way they are supposed too.

 

[Phoenix_XIII]

I don't understand how you can call 3D a gimmick when its barely been out. Seriously give it some time first. Might actually add something to games.

I've been against 3D ever since movies started sacrificing quality for 3D effects. And I've heard the 3D isn't even that good.

 

[Mr. In-between]

the 3DS is the best hand held on the market and the Wii has the best motion controls ever made (i despise Sony and Microsoft trying to cash in on Nintendo's ideas)

And if those are gimmicks, then yeah, Gimmicks are good.

It doesn't really matter. They are improving with the casual side though.

But at the price of alienating the hardcore gamers. I'd be fine if they could find a way to even it out. Hell, the PC did, anyone else can too.

All "Hardcore" gamers want is HD Graphics and blood, at least the casual market has some worth while wants like smooth gameplay, art style, aesthetics, all form a very unique gaming experience.

You forgot the strawberry jam HUD and the importance of brown.

 

[Phoenix_XIII]

I think Nintendo is doing just fine, I'm pretty indifferent to motion controls and 3D by themselves, it's all in how developers USE them in their games that make the difference to me. I have plenty of Wii and DS games that I adore and I imagine that will go for the 3DS as well once it gets more of it's games out. Let's not go ahead and pretend that Nintendo hasn't always had a thing for gimmicky accessories either, all you have to do is look the LONG list of accessories for the NES and the Virtual Boy, at least THESE gimmicks actually function the way they are supposed too.

I've had my share of DS and some Wii games I liked. Mainly "Animal Crossing", but still. I think Nintendo's biggest offense lies with what they let Team Ninja do to Samus in "Other M"....

 

[Phoenix_XIII]

It doesn't really matter. They are improving with the casual side though.

But at the price of alienating the hardcore gamers. I'd be fine if they could find a way to even it out. Hell, the PC did, anyone else can too.

Nintendo isn't about whether they have hardcore gamers or not. They only care about money and only money like a profit business is supposed to do.

But a gaming company shouldn't be about money. They should be about the gamers. And about the fun in games!

Not with Nintendo. It is all about money. Why do you think they still focus on Wii fit?

I always figured it was insanity. XDD

 

[SovietSecrets]

I don't understand how you can call 3D a gimmick when its barely been out. Seriously give it some time first. Might actually add something to games.

I've been against 3D ever since movies started sacrificing quality for 3D effects. And I've heard the 3D isn't even that good.

Give it time. Honestly what do you expect? Its going to be amazing right off the bat? Nintendo is at least trying new things here and there with motion controls and got MS and Sony to do them, I wouldn't call that a gimmick. I call that a victory for Nintendo. Now they are trying to get 3D to work without the glasses for systems, what other company do you know of has tried that? Give it time, it cant be called a gimmick until it has been proved one and no way in hell has enough time gone by to give that judgement. Nintendo is fine where it is.

 

[Valeran]

But a gaming company shouldn't be about money. They should be about the gamers. And about the fun in games!

There's 10s of millions of people who are enjoying their games on the Wii, many who probably didn't play many games before. Nintendo's aim at the casual crowd might seem like it's about the money, but it's giving fun to people who normally don't have fun with video games. Is that wrong?

Also a game company always needs to think about money, if they go bankrupt they can't do anything, let alone "think about the gamers."

 

[MasterV]

I think the "gimmick" they're getting into now is more of a retro-gaming thing. Anyone agree?

I do.

And at thesame time disagree. They did that at the beginning. Now they're going back to servicing the "hardcore", where, in essence, the true core Nintendo gamer was he who bandoned them from the N64 owards and came back with the Wii and the DS.

 

[Mr. In-between]

I think the "gimmick" they're getting into now is more of a retro-gaming thing. Anyone agree?

I do.

And at thesame time disagree. They did that at the beginning. Now they're going back to servicing the "hardcore", where, in essence, the true core Nintendo gamer was he who bandoned them from the N64 owards and came back with the Wii and the DS.

N64 had its share of killer titles.

 

[BreakfastMan]

I think they are still doing pretty good. I mean, they have been releasing quite a few excellent games lately, and that is what really matters, amirite?

 

[2xDouble]

Eh. It's ok. Its a neat idea that nobody felt like getting into and really playing with. The DS, no matter what anyone says, has been a great success. It will continue its success in spite of the cool but underwhelming dance with 3D. The Wii, in spite of being little more than a children's toy, got the attention of lots of folks who wouldn't otherwise have gotten into video games.

I'd call that more or less even. When one of these gimmicks or new ideas actually catches on (i.e. developers actually thinking about and designing for it), Nintendo or whoever comes up with it will be unstoppable.

EDIT: To put a little different spin on it: I didn't particularly care for it, but I know it needed to happen. And I'm glad it did.

 

[Ice Car]

You know, if they cared only about money they would be releasing Mario, Zelda, and other games annually. They wouldn't be spending years creating a new one, unless *GASP* They actually care about the games they put out! Why would they not milk a large money-making franchise dry if they "Only care about money"? Anyone care to explain that to me? This all reminds me of Call of Duty.

 

[RatRace123]

Their in-house software is still top notch, that's all I ask from them. Sure dealing with the gimmicks can be annoying at times, but I consider it worth it to play the latest Mario/Zelda/Metroid/etc...

Call me a fanboy, but from where I stand, Nintendo's still making great games.

 

[Phoenix_XIII]

the 3DS is the best hand held on the market and the Wii has the best motion controls ever made (i despise Sony and Microsoft trying to cash in on Nintendo's ideas)

And if those are gimmicks, then yeah, Gimmicks are good.

It doesn't really matter. They are improving with the casual side though.

But at the price of alienating the hardcore gamers. I'd be fine if they could find a way to even it out. Hell, the PC did, anyone else can too.

All "Hardcore" gamers want is HD Graphics and blood, at least the casual market has some worth while wants like smooth gameplay, art style, aesthetics, all form a very unique gaming experience.

Not all Hardcore gamers want just HD and Blood. I enjoyed Mirror's Edge, especially when I didn't have to shoot anyone. And there are a lot of arty games for Hardcore gamers. In Amnesia, you couldn't fight for crap and only could run. An Indie game is doing better in my eyes than most big name games are.

Nintendo take a middle ground. They're definitely not all-out casual, they're somewhere in the middle. Which is a great spot

Also, Define Hardcore. I dare you.

Hardcore gaming is when you actually work on attaining skill in a game rather than just sitting down and being able to do it.

Game Requiring Skill: Mirror's Edge
Game you can sit down and Play: Bejeweled.

And for me they don't seem to take a Middle Ground. It seems like when they try, we get "Other M." Or "Mad World." Games that could be fun, but sometimes are hindered by what we're trying to use to play it. I am, of course, refering to the Motion Controls.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

They're making more money than a triple-cunted hooker the day after the troops come home..

Wait what's that a quote from? Ahh this is gonna bug me now!

OT: i don't really mind, it's not like the 3D isn't optional and the console is pretty good anyway, in my opinion. Hell, if people enjoy it, they're clearly doing something right. I don't get this culture of self-entitlement where the company must pander to your wants and needs, and yours alone. A lot of people clearly like motion controls, 3D and other such gimmicks, so I say leave 'em to it.