Poll: No Reality In This Classroom!

[Internet Kraken]

Do you know what I'm talking about? A student getting a week of detentions for writing an essay about the essay question not having depth. Another student getting suspended for yelling at a teacher because he wouldn't break up a fight. I got suspended (and nearly expelled) because I said, "Right, because there's no place for the real world here."

So you mean the school punishing students for being idiots?

Seriously, that's the impression I get from this. You complaining about the school punishing you for doing unnecessary things. Writing an essay about how the essay question has no depth is just plain stupid. Just answer the damn question. I imagine the person who complained about the teacher did so in a rude manner. And you're comment was completely unnecessary.

In school, you're told to sit down, shut up, and do what you're told. In the real world, people who do that rarely do more than scrape by. Why is it that school is penalizing us for wanting to succeed?

In the real world, you have to do what people in positions of power say. I don't know where you got the idea that you don't.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

If I could go back in time and confront my Grade 6 teacher, I'd tell her she's a ***** and eat veal sandwiches, covered with cheese in her face and say the veal wasn't organic.

She has made me hate enviromentalists. It may be unfair but... she got me suspended because I took a plane to London. (Also I told her to fuck off when she said I'd get detention for that trip, but.... c'mon....)

Wait, she threatened to give you detention for flying? That's grossly unproffesional. I'm with you, go back and make her eat veal.

 

[Thaius]

Two words: General Education. Honestly, in college, GE is a joke. They're forcing us to take classes in subjects we can already get by on, which is a waste of our time and money, when we could be taking the subjects we need for our major. If high school doesn't give us enough general knowledge to get by in the areas we don't specialize in, the school system has failed.

Wait, but it kind of does fail... America's school system, at least. Whatever. Point is, yeah, school is screwed up. The entire system has to be demolished and completely redesigned from the ground up. Unfortunately, that probably wouldn't affect anything anyway until a similar thing happens to our country...

 

[the cornflake]

In school, you're told to sit down, shut up, and do what you're told. In the real world, people who do that rarely do more than scrape by. Why is it that school is penalizing us for wanting to succeed?

Sorry if this sounds anti-government, because it is: the school system does this because they dont want you to be educated. They want a dumbed down citizen group that will follow any order given to them without question. An educated person is a danger to the government. "People shouldnt be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people" - favorite quote of all time.

 

[Dancingman]

Meh, the education system pisses me off, regular classes learn crap nothing all day and then the kids in them bomb the literature SATs because the best analysis they can do is "i think this symbolizes death" The teachers have no respect for one's individual learning style and force everyone to study in the same way (I'm talking about the teachers who don't seem to realize that people have things that work for them personally and earn them perfectly acceptable grades).

As much as I love AP classes as a refuse from the unwashed plebeian masses whom I'm forced into contact with (lol, just kidding, I like being faux-elitist) I hate the kind of people they attract, the average person I know in them is just some robotic thing that doesn't give a damn about the subject but takes it "for getting into a good college" for some reason that has always repulsed me, why commit to the extra effort of an AP class if you don't give half a damn about the subject. Eh, I'm just pissed with education in general, putting all the emphasis on stupid grades and not bothering to look if someone is particularly distinguished in one field. I hate how people who aren't majoring in math or science are forced to take them in college (I'm not talking about math you need, but like higher things like calculus and whatnot that are more suited towards a mathematics-inclined career).

I hate that sports stars get free rides to college, and get even more free rides when they're there by getting easy-ass classes and unfair leniency from teachers. And hell, I'm getting too worked up.

 

[Spitfire175]

In school, you're told to sit down, shut up, and do what you're told. In the real world, people who do that rarely do more than scrape by. Why is it that school is penalizing us for wanting to succeed?

Sorry if this sounds anti-government, because it is: the school system does this because they dont want you to be educated. They want a dumbed down citizen group that will follow any order given to them without question. An educated person is a danger to the government. "People shouldnt be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people" - favorite quote of all time.

That's an American problem, then. None of that up here in the north. (not Canada)

 

[BehattedWanderer]

It's called independence. It doesn't mean being a separate government entity or having a holiday. It means taking it in on your own, and understanding what is to be. I knew exactly what I was getting from school, and I'd set up my own class schedule (more or less), and made damn sure it was all stuff I wanted. The trick to it, though, is to not be a prick about it, and work your own way into it. Part of schooling is to make you into a little worker bee, and it does that phenomenally well. Now, if you stay a minute after class or bring up in a class discussion (an actual discussion, not just arguing with each other about pointless junk) an inconsistency you've noticed, or something that you think should be changed a bit, and it's a different way of looking at it, congratulations, you might have a brain. But to sit there and go "why are we doing this crap" is about as 'real world' as you'll ever get, if that's what you're complaining about.

Suck it up.

 

[Internet Kraken]

In school, you're told to sit down, shut up, and do what you're told. In the real world, people who do that rarely do more than scrape by. Why is it that school is penalizing us for wanting to succeed?

Sorry if this sounds anti-government, because it is: the school system does this because they dont want you to be educated. They want a dumbed down citizen group that will follow any order given to them without question. An educated person is a danger to the government. "People shouldnt be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people" - favorite quote of all time.

That's an American problem, then. None of that up here in the north. (not Canada)

It's not an American problem either. I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

 

[the cornflake]

thats why I plan to move there. also because they can actually figure out universal healthcare

 

[TaborMallory]

*After a large and important test thing on which I scored 100%*
Teacher: (Holding up my paper for the class to see) You see, class? This is why you all need to study for these tests! Tell us, Jacob, how long did you study for?
Me: (Without looking up from the book I was reading) I didn't study.
Teacher: ........Oh.

In the entire school year for that class, I spent maybe 10% of the time actually listening to lectures and doing the... required homework.

Also, in Elementary School, I got suspension for playing a friendly game of Tag with my friends.
On the grass.
During Recess.

 

[Soul137]

I go to a arts school filled with the children of baby boomers so there are very few rules and even fewer that matter. In my history class I decided I would write a a revolutionary speech about the rights of students and how nobody elected this teacher and how we should depose him as monarch in favor of a democracy (of course he'd still be teaching but we'd have a representative) and he said it was a great idea. So my school kicks ass.

 

[Internet Kraken]

My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future.

This is one of the biggest problem with the American education system. Students that can not get out of the mentality that what they are learning will not help them in the future.

 

[sethwood]

You wanna know why there isn't any reality in the classroom. Because schools hire a bunch of fucked up people who have lost any dreams they did have and shouldn't or aren't able to breed, and they know it. So they go through their lives torturing student do they don't quite feel bad when they go home to their shitty, little apartment at night to grade papers. Almost everyone of the teachers I have right now are like that. I know three are like that for sure.

 

[stonethered]

My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future.

This is one of the biggest problem with he American education system. Students that can not get out of the mentality that what they are learning will not help them in the future.

true, and any thought that school should be a democracy is just silly. maybe you won't need some of the things you learn but you won't be worse for knowing it.
and math through basic algebra you do need IRL. writing is a valuable skill learned in any class high school and above. reading is the most valuable skill for the aquistion of additional knowledge. history teaches you lessons that help you understand any number of topics, science is the same.

anyone who thinks that school is pointless clearly isn't understanding the point of school.

 

[siege_1302]

To quote Terry Pratchett: "Education is a series of lies-to-children"

The idea is you get closer to actual truth and knowledge the further up the scale of education you go. In the mean time, of course people complain about school, sometimes about genuine flaws. But I think you'll find there's still a lot of reality there. Almost as much as everywhere else.

 

[B0BX]

In my high school physics class we frequently deal with frictionless surfaces. That's helpful.

 

[ddon]

odd. the teacher would yell at me "if" i helped break up a fight.

 

[MaskedMori]

My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future. I want to be a writer so I should be doing all classes focusing on that, So why is it we had teachers literally lying to students about Math being a requirement.

In fact I found that a lot of the time teachers lied to the students to get a result. An then there's the jump from High School to university, After 12 years of it being hammered into your skull that this is how you do things University makes those 12 years WORTHLESS in almost an instant, your first assignment will probably have a writing and referencing style that you NEVER used in Highschool, cause you were not allowed to.

Me? My problem with the system is homework and thats because I'm a very 'Work' person. Oh at the uni campus I work like a fucking rocket but when I get home I turn my brain off, for 12 years I got by with never doing homework and doing all my assignments at school, and passing with reasonably good marks.

Ugh but i'm just different from everyone, I have one specific work mode in which i'm pretty much God incarnate but everywhere else. Nah. I'm weird like that. I would do well with a job thought because it's following a schedual and I work when it's work time I relax when it's not work time.

Those 12 years are for fundamentals, it's also time for a person to think about what they want to do then learn about how to do it in a university... Of course 12 years is WAY too long to learn fundamentals, most of the advanced learning in those 12 years will turn out to be useless, still, it's the best system, and it really all depends on what you become.