Poll: Nobody gets a complete version of LA Noir.

[crazyfoxdemon]

I really don't mind that certain games have bonuses for buying the game at a certain retailer or on a certain system.. In this instance, I could care less..

 

[GonzoGamer]

This DLC is extras, not a fucking main part.

And this is not "peeled away", this is "added". As in this is something they came up with for this preorder and wouldn't exist without the preorder incentives.

Yes but my point is that gameplay content should not be considered "extras" to be auctioned off to retailers and platform developers as it's unfair to people paying the same amount of money, just not at the "preferred" (paid up) retailer. You have to understand that (regardless of R*'s intentions) to this person the content will seem to be peeled away while a ps3 owner buying from gameslop might see it as added. Only an idiot could not understand that difference in perspective and why it's a bad idea.

This also sets a bad precedent that might encourage more publishers to separate chunks of content out before launch to be sold later and/or auctioned off to retailers.

 

[GonzoGamer]

It's a tiny part of the game that is not even part of the full experience.

If this might seriously stop some of you from buying the game, man up.

Is this serious or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell sometimes. I wouldn't be surprised if some gamers feel it's manly to be a sucker.
It would explain a lot, like how gamestop has such high earnings.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

It's a tiny part of the game that is not even part of the full experience.

If this might seriously stop some of you from buying the game, man up.

Is this serious or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell sometimes. I wouldn't be surprised if some gamers feel it's manly to be a sucker.
It would explain a lot, like how gamestop has such high earnings.

I'm completely serious. The excessive DLC whining has to stop already. And this showing of "principles" when people have no idea what the situation actually is annoys me greatly.

 

[GonzoGamer]

It's a tiny part of the game that is not even part of the full experience.

If this might seriously stop some of you from buying the game, man up.

Is this serious or are you being sarcastic?

I can't tell sometimes. I wouldn't be surprised if some gamers feel it's manly to be a sucker.
It would explain a lot, like how gamestop has such high earnings.

I'm completely serious. The excessive DLC whining has to stop already. And this showing of "principles" when people have no idea what the situation actually is annoys me greatly.

That's funny because what annoys me greatly is when gamers get ripped off but Don't complain about it as it has (so far) only led to us getting ripped off more.
This acceptance gamers have to being bullied out of their money by being told that they will miss out on content, not be able to play online, or be"left out in the cold" is just making these companies come up with even more obtuse schemes for getting as much of our money while providing as little as possible.

I just don't want to end up paying $60 for a demo that needs to be filled out with $100 worth of dlc because that's what we're heading for if people just accept and pay for everything the developers/retailers as them to.

 

[Sansha]

Outstanding.

The store opens in three hours. I'm going to cancel my pre-order.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I just don't want to end up paying $60 for a demo that needs to be filled out with $100 worth of dlc because that's what we're heading for if people just accept and pay for everything the developers/retailers as them to.

A 25-hour demo?

Yeah, I think that just proves my point. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I just don't want to end up paying $60 for a demo that needs to be filled out with $100 worth of dlc because that's what we're heading for if people just accept and pay for everything the developers/retailers as them to.

A 25-hour demo?

Yeah, I think that just proves my point. You don't know what you're talking about.

Or that you don't finish reading before posting. I said that's what we're heading to if people are so accepting of these practices , not that LA Noir itself would be a $60 demo.

It's a tiny part of the game that is not even part of the full experience.

If this might seriously stop some of you from buying the game, man up.

Most people think that sticking up for yourself is more "manly" than bending over for whatever moneymaking scheme these companies try and catch you in.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Or that you don't finish reading before posting. I said that's what we're heading to if people are so accepting of these practices , not that LA Noir itself would be a $60 demo.

Your argument was a gross exaggeration and made no sense whatsoever in context. I compared the frankly insane prediction of 60-dollar demoes to the state of the industry today and to the topic at hand.

Why don't you pull the "you people are ruining the industry" card, too? Oh, wait. You already did.

Most people think that sticking up for yourself is more "manly" than bending over for whatever moneymaking scheme these companies try and catch you in.

FUCK YEAH, WAY TO STICK IT TO THE MAN.

Those damned companies are sure assholes for trying to make money.

I'm sorry, there's no scheme in the topic at hand - the console separate DLCs are paid for by the console manufacturers.

If you're talking about the pre-order thing, I see nothing inherently wrong with that - nobody's forcing anyone to buy that little part of content out of a 25-hour game.

Poor you, everyone's trying to scheme you and get your money and the rest of the customers are sheep.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Or that you don't finish reading before posting. I said that's what we're heading to if people are so accepting of these practices , not that LA Noir itself would be a $60 demo.

Your argument was a gross exaggeration and made no sense whatsoever in context. I compared the frankly insane prediction of 60-dollar demoes to the state of the industry today and to the topic at hand.

Why don't you pull the "you people are ruining the industry" card, too? Oh, wait. You already did.

Most people think that sticking up for yourself is more "manly" than bending over for whatever moneymaking scheme these companies try and catch you in.

FUCK YEAH, WAY TO STICK IT TO THE MAN.

Those damned companies are sure assholes for trying to make money.

I'm sorry, there's no scheme in the topic at hand - the console separate DLCs are paid for by the console manufacturers.

If you're talking about the pre-order thing, I see nothing inherently wrong with that - nobody's forcing anyone to buy that little part of content out of a 25-hour game.

Poor you, everyone's trying to scheme you and get your money and the rest of the customers are sheep.

Well, I'm glad you're at least getting the point now, even if you do insist on keeping your head in the sand... and you know what part that leaves unprotected.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Well, I'm glad you're at least getting the point now, even if you do insist on keeping your head in the sand... and you know what part that leaves unprotected.

If that's your definition of "unprotected", I shall look forward to you boycotting every successful developer ever.

Good day, sir.

 

[LogicNProportion]

I don't really give a crap about Exclusive DLC, Day-1 DLC, or any DLC for that matter. If any problem I have with it, it's because I'm almost forced in my head to get it because I'm a collector or just about everything...

PS. I have the original Iron Man(s) 1-300, and then some, whatcha gonna do!? >D

 

[GonzoGamer]

Well, I'm glad you're at least getting the point now, even if you do insist on keeping your head in the sand... and you know what part that leaves unprotected.

If that's your definition of "unprotected", I shall look forward to you boycotting every successful developer ever.

Good day, sir.

Yes the way I boycotted Valve by buying Portal 2 this week /sarcasm.
See, now they know how to get on my good side: they gave me a free PC copy of the game with the ps3 version. They didn't say "well if you buy the ps3 version at walmart, you'll get gameplay content that you would otherwise have to buy separately to play."
So sony was still able to get me to buy the ps3 version even though I was originally intending to get the pc version. That's a "bonus."

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Yes the way I boycotted Valve by buying Portal 2 this week /sarcasm.
See, now they know how to get on my good side: they gave me a free PC copy of the game with the ps3 version. They didn't say "well if you buy the ps3 version at walmart, you'll get gameplay content that you would otherwise have to buy separately to play."
So sony was still able to get me to buy the ps3 version even though I was originally intending to get the pc version. That's a "bonus."

Now, system-specific DLC - that's robbery.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Yes the way I boycotted Valve by buying Portal 2 this week /sarcasm.
See, now they know how to get on my good side: they gave me a free PC copy of the game with the ps3 version. They didn't say "well if you buy the ps3 version at walmart, you'll get gameplay content that you would otherwise have to buy separately to play."
So sony was still able to get me to buy the ps3 version even though I was originally intending to get the pc version. That's a "bonus."

Now, system-specific DLC - that's robbery.

To someone who doesn't own that system, yes. It's not like they get the game for any cheaper, they just get less game.
But to tell you the truth, that doesn't even bother me as much as the different retail specific dlc that's gameplay content.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

To someone who doesn't own that system, yes. It's not like they get the game for any cheaper, they just get less game.
But to tell you the truth, that doesn't even bother me as much as the different retail specific dlc that's gameplay content.

You have every right to be bothered by the retail specific content. I'm not a fan myself, not living in the US. However, I have every right to believe that not buying a game solely because of that is ridiculous. And I don't see why it could be considered a rational decision.

 

[DustyDrB]

To someone who doesn't own that system, yes. It's not like they get the game for any cheaper, they just get less game.
But to tell you the truth, that doesn't even bother me as much as the different retail specific dlc that's gameplay content.

You have every right to be bothered by the retail specific content. I'm not a fan myself, not living in the US. However, I have every right to believe that not buying a game solely because of that is ridiculous. And I don't see why it could be considered a rational decision.

I'm split on whether I'm not going to buy it at all or if I'll get it used on eBay and avoid DLC for the game. Maybe it's ridiculous, maybe it's not. I could be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time. I just think it's really unfair that the most devoted fans will still miss out on story content (even side story) even if they pre-order the game from GameStop and for the PS3. Missions should be available for everyone. Guns, outfits, and stuff like that I care less about. I still don't like that, but those things usually aren't very useful anyway.

I don't think they are evil for trying to make money, they just doing what a business should do. Consumer's get to look in their own self-interest as well, though. I think a good tension of both sides looking out for themselves helps make sure that neither party gets screwed over.

 

[GonzoGamer]

To someone who doesn't own that system, yes. It's not like they get the game for any cheaper, they just get less game.
But to tell you the truth, that doesn't even bother me as much as the different retail specific dlc that's gameplay content.

You have every right to be bothered by the retail specific content. I'm not a fan myself, not living in the US. However, I have every right to believe that not buying a game solely because of that is ridiculous. And I don't see why it could be considered a rational decision.

It's not the only reason. I've also seen the new gimmick in action and I'm not very impressed: it's no more realistic, just a different kind of creepy.
But it is probably the main reason because if this is the dlc that they're going to be selling at launch, we're more than likely going to see some $10-20 dlc packs a few months down the line; so I figure I'll rent it and if it's really good and I can get over the creepiness, I'll get the goty version with all the content for half (if the dlc is as pricy as the gta4 dlc) the price. I'm not going to run out and pre-order it (I think it might suck) just because they try and scare me into it with the threat of less content. It's similar to what gamestop does with pre-orders by saying "you better give us money a couple of weeks before we give you the game or you wont be able to buy it." Well, they can GFT because I'll buy it at a real store.

I was all set to buy MK new as well but when they said that you have to buy it new or you have to pay an extra $10 to play it online, I thought: "I don't even want to play it online, so I may as well buy it used."

I'm not normally such a cautious consumer but I am pretty cheap, and I find that when it comes to buying games, cars, and real estate, being cautious pays off and not being cautious can be really expensive. I used to be poor y'know so I can be pretty protective of the wealth I have collected.