Poll: Noob calling and Hacker accusations

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Seraniel

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for some time now i've been bussy online gaming with mainly shooters. titles like S4leage and Blackshot (its likely that a lot of people here wont know them) and i started noticing how often people start calling others noob for using specific weapons. or calling people hackers due to server lag or just because the one accusing others gets killed. even i have been the victim of beeing called hacker and even got booted a couple of times. now this comes in mind to me that its very sad to start with.

i wondered what you people thought of it. and if you had any experiences like this.

(i probably have some very sucky grammar and, miss a great deal of punctuations in this post my apologies for that)

p.S. sorry for the poll that was accident i dont actualy have a poll.
 

HellspawnCandy

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I have a ton, especially from playing WoW of all games. I was kicked for hacking because my character was decked in heirlooms and I kept grabbing agro off of a bad tank. Noob calling is kinda in the past though, it's not really an insult anymore and no one really takes being called a noob seriously anymore.
 

Rusty pumpkin

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the one who calls noob is a noob themself.
the one who calls hacker is more of a noob.
that is my answer in a strange format.
 

euro2019

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Meh, I have no problem with it. If one person is using it, it means everyone else can use it. Though people with thumpers and grenade launchers does get kind of annoying, I wouldn't call them noobs, you've only got limited shots and with a blast shield in COD they can survive a shot. As a PC gamer in COD I dont experience many hackers I dunno about you guys. I kinda like that there was no Dedicated Servers for us.
 

SturmDolch

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I love being called a hacker. It means I'm doing well.

I think the whole "noob weapon!" thing usually isn't justified. Someone will use a gun, like say the AK-74u, and do really well with it. Someone else notices and begins to use it as well. It spreads like wildfire, and before long, half of the people playing are using it. Then, the other half begin to notice that they keep getting killed by the AK-74u. Outrageous! If they were getting killed by a diversity of guns, it would be ok. But just one? No, it must be a noob gun.
 

-Samurai-

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I was called a hacker all the time in the hayday of CoD(1). Being better or just getting the best of that person 1 time makes me a cheater. I've always found it hilarious in a pathetic sort of way, and I've always had pity for the poor souls that actually think "noob" is an insult.

It's just people that can't handle defeat, or can't get over the fact that it's just a game.
 

josemlopes

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I just started to play Blackout (its basicly the same) and I have noticed that too.

I once played with a guy that everytime he died he said "noob". EVERY FREACKING TIME!!!

I think that in this type of games the community really sucks because of them, there is no real interaction with players and they arent usefull at all. They are like bots, not in term of score but in terms of personality. You can say whatever you want and they will still react the same.

My conclusion is that they are just like rocks in every single way.

It makes me worship the Halo 3 community or the COD one, yeah, most of them are annoying kids but at least you know that they are people. I really miss playing games like Forgotten Hope, where communications are VERY important and everyone is talking about usefull stuff.
 

Erana

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People calling Hax on an Outspark game? Man, the community must have plummeted downhill... :(
But yeah, such behavior is a sign of a bad, immature community. I just can't stand that sort of thing.
 

Nouw

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Online Gaming revolves around calling people hackers and noobs.

I got kicked last week in a game of mine because I did good and since I was used to it, I laughed and moved on.

I never call people noobs, even if they use the most cheapest weapon known to man.
 

Ace of Spades

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I don't support the idea of 'noob weapons'. I'm pretty sure that Renaissance Generals didn't complain that their opponents were noobs for using gunpowder, they had to adapt in order to win. If you don't want to use a weapon because you think its cheap, that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to do the same.
 

TuringTest

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'Noob' and 'hacker' are the 'fag's of online play; the words mean nothing in particular, just generic insults that people take offense to. Also, it seems everyone who doesn't win uses them, so might as well get used to 'em.
 

timeadept

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Sturmdolch said:
I love being called a hacker. It means I'm doing well.

Lmao, i couldn't agree more! I think i once got booted from a TF2 server for "hacking" you know what that means? I WON that server.

Sturmdolch said:
I think the whole "noob weapon!" thing usually isn't justified. Someone will use a gun, like say the AK-74u, and do really well with it. Someone else notices and begins to use it as well. It spreads like wildfire, and before long, half of the people playing are using it. Then, the other half begin to notice that they keep getting killed by the AK-74u. Outrageous! If they were getting killed by a diversity of guns, it would be ok. But just one? No, it must be a noob gun.
I never thought of it that way, although i usually take that as a challenge. I remember in Star Wars Battlefront i ended up as the basic soldier, i mean i was good as a rocket guy but "rockets are for noobs who can't aim" right? Anyway, i still ended up being a terror on the battlefield. I scored head shots with that rifle like it was nobodies business. I didn't NEED a rocket launcher to kill you! although the mines were broken as all hell when TKs were off. Running up to someone and dropping explosives on them and surviving the blast yourself is completely retarded.
 

Corkydog

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The nice thing about Black Ops is the Hacker perk, so when someone accuses another of hacking, you can just pretend they are spreading valuable info about the opposing team's perks of choice.
 

Therumancer

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Seraniel said:
for some time now i've been bussy online gaming with mainly shooters. titles like S4leage and Blackshot (its likely that a lot of people here wont know them) and i started noticing how often people start calling others noob for using specific weapons. or calling people hackers due to server lag or just because the one accusing others gets killed. even i have been the victim of beeing called hacker and even got booted a couple of times. now this comes in mind to me that its very sad to start with.

i wondered what you people thought of it. and if you had any experiences like this.

(i probably have some very sucky grammar and, miss a great deal of punctuations in this post my apologies for that)

p.S. sorry for the poll that was accident i dont actualy have a poll.
Well, the problem is that hacking in games, especially competitive ones, is EXTREMELY common. You see videos of it all the time on Youtube. A big deal was made about how people had hacks running the first day of "Black Ops." for example.

Of course "hacking" isn't quite the same thing as "modding" and "exploiting", all of which tend to run together. The problem is of course complicated in cases where there are games like WoW that ENCOURAGE modding and even set themselves up for it, which leads to all kinds of issues where someone's mods might wind up allowing them to do things that are impossible, or at least highly improbable, with regularity.

Typically issues arise when you see people doing things that simply aren't allowed within the game structure. If you know the stats, gear, classes, etc... it can be pretty obvious when someone isn't playing under the rules, or at least the intended rules. What's more cheaters tend to be more subtle than people give them credit for, the best ones use the cheats to do things which are vaguely possible within the game, just highly unlikely, and then claim "I'm just that good, don't hate me because your a scrub and I'm 1337". Those guys are hard to catch and prove anything on, and represent the biggest problems in game communities.

As far as what happened to you in WoW, well all I'll say is that if official action was taken chances are you were cheating somehow, and are just complaining about it here. I say this because the GMs aren't going to take action based on the complaints of a group saying your pulling aggro off a tank. They were probably looking at your gear (heirlooms included) and the amount of damage/threat you were pulling and realized that by the numbers/codes the game just didn't allow for what they were seeing.

I'll also be honest in saying that if you were running certain assistance mods that's bannable too. Generally speaking, using a mod to totally automate a process (ie having the mod do things for you) is a violation, they have tried to mak it harder to do this, but people keep finding ways. Using certain mods for example it's possible to greatly increase DPS by having your rotations go off flawlessly, with machine-like presician. The defense that "well technically I'm not doing anything the game doesn't already allow" doesn't fly.
 

theonlyblaze2

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I have been called both, but it doesn't really affect me. When it gets really bad, I just play with friends or a good community. Halo 3 actually has one of the better communities, as long as you play before 1 or 2 A.M. Cause that is when the douchey fratboys get back from the bars.