Elaborate.-=Spy=- said:Why is Level 7 never mentioned within these threads? If someone wants, I'll elaborate, but I'm amazed it never is.
Elaborate.-=Spy=- said:Why is Level 7 never mentioned within these threads? If someone wants, I'll elaborate, but I'm amazed it never is.
One of my favorite books of all time, The Master and Margarita, actually isn't too immersive at all. Satan and his retinue pay a visit to 1920s Moscow and turn it into their personal playground. In a strange sort of way, it brings to mind Gremlins sans the rules, because Satan is too much of a boss for those. Anyway, what makes the book so great is the fact that it's highly amusing. Immersive? Not really, and I attribute this to the fact that the characters are generally kept at a distance, and the story never keeps you with one character too long. In other words, it specializes in variety, and that variety is enough to keep you interested and eager to see who will foolishly try to tell Satan he doesn't exist next.vanthebaron said:a good novel MUST immerse you, hold your attetion.
I've read that novel a few times, and had planned on read it a couple more up until my English teacher decided to skewer it with the "meaning" stick. I'll probably read it again once I clear my mind of all the over-analysis.tobi the good boy said:Probably very predictable but i'd say lord of the flies gave me an intresting look at the concepts of good and evil and if they truely do exist
I was able to track down an online edition of the first, and while I don't have Anna Karenina (it's on the to-read list, of course), I do have War and Peace; Have you ever read it? If so, is it interesting enough to take you through the 1000+ pages in a reasonable amount of time?Gomithrus said:Hero of our Time by Lermentov and Anna Karenina by Tolstoy, I found the characters to be very believable and relatable to in these novels.
I've had a couple people tell me this, and to be honest, I was a little surprised at first. I figured it would be some dry political magnum opus, but some friends of mine praised it as one of the best books they have ever read.Experimental said:I think it does, I'm reading currently Atlas Shrugged. It's so amazing and immersive to me, any other than that, shadows from John Saul was another masterpiece in my opinion..
I thought survivor was a good novel, and I do plan to read Choke at some point, but I have to admit that Palahniuk's style strikes me as a little too redundant at times.Eclectic Dreck said:I suppose there have been several. Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk made me consider, the first time, just how difficult it is to be objective about anything. A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, unlike the other dystopian novels I was forced to read in High School, taught me that a control mechanism need not be brutal to be insidious. And, I think Atlas Shrugged is likely my favorite book in terms of a personal ideology if not philosophically. The real complaint I have about this one is that it plods on far to long, especially near the end when it just punches you in the face with objectivist nonsense.
Rollins is awesome. I read Broken Summers last year and that is an engaging account of how one of the finest collaboration albums (Rise Above: 24 black flag songs for the benefit of the West Memphis Three) came into existence. Rollins might probably be the sanest public figure in the world, he's sort of a celebrity but he's kept hold of his humanity, his dignity and his self esteem, not to mention the work ethic. It's both humbling and inspirational to see all the stuff that he does at any one time (talking shows, music, writing, acting and his own TV show) and how much effort he puts into all of them.Xan Holbrook said:Excuse me for being a fanboy, but Get In The Van by Henry Rollins was another book which followed in the vain of escapism that On The Road had carved a niche for in my subconscious. Rollins' no-bullshit approach to the five years he toured with Black Flag and some of the uncomprimising brutality and hardship he was subjected to by fans, venues, promoters, other bands and, not being too proud as an Englishman, British Movement Skinheads by the ton on the way is terrifying, to say the least. Even though he expresses no regret for giving up a steady life in favour of a, quite literally, starving gig, his matter-of-fact writing style and the ease of which he shrugs off some of the potentially traumatic events leave little room for comfort in the knowledge that he is a sane man. Nerve-shredding, eye-opening and yet stangely life-affirming and refreshing, Get In The Van is a brilliant book.
I won't say it's the best I've ever read without finishing it, but it's without a doubt a good candidate.Koroviev said:I've had a couple people tell me this, and to be honest, I was a little surprised at first. I figured it would be some dry political magnum opus, but some friends of mine praised it as one of the best books they have ever read.
Yes yes YES. One of the few books I started over immediately after finishing. Nick Cave is a god among men.wolfshrimp said:And the Ass Saw the Angel by Nick Cave also struck a chord with me, a coherent way of shifting perspectives and narrators set in a messed up but totally believable world.
I got that message too, but with the corollary that people who live up to those ideals are more often than not martyrs. In case you couldn't tell, I preferred Time Enough For Love with its message of rugged independence and not giving a damn about society at large while still loving your fellow man.Kermi said:Stranger in a Strange Land has taught me the values of tolerance, understanding and compassion. The willingness to learn more about the things I don't understand so that I may come to accept them. The willing to appreciate that there will be things about humanity and the world we live in I may never understand, and that I should still love them, because I am a product of this world and by holding those things in contempt I am only revealing that I hate myself.
While the major theme of each novel tends to be different, all of Palahniuk's books tend to have a lot in common. They are all well disguised love stories for instance. On top of that you find that the basic character archetypes and motivations of the Narrator of Fight Club and Tyler Durden are in each of his books. The nihillistic tone is common to all of them as well. Each book is also written without much regard to the passage of time. In some cases, like Invisible Monsters, it skips about randomly. In other cases it just skips in a single direction without much of a clue as to how we got there in the first place. In general, it strikes me that Palahniuk's books tend to read like Slaugtherhouse V if it was written by a lovesick Nietzsche.Koroviev said:I thought survivor was a good novel, and I do plan to read Choke at some point, but I have to admit that Palahniuk's style strikes me as a little too redundant at times.Eclectic Dreck said:I suppose there have been several. Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk made me consider, the first time, just how difficult it is to be objective about anything. A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, unlike the other dystopian novels I was forced to read in High School, taught me that a control mechanism need not be brutal to be insidious. And, I think Atlas Shrugged is likely my favorite book in terms of a personal ideology if not philosophically. The real complaint I have about this one is that it plods on far to long, especially near the end when it just punches you in the face with objectivist nonsense.
Graphic novels are fine, I'm actually reading From Hell right now.poiumty said:Hmm, how about visual novels?
Alright alright, stop booing. Have to say, staying up until 4 in the morning reading Icewind Dale makes it no small feat. Even videogames have a hard time making me do that.