Poll: Oblivion: Which Platform?

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runtheplacered

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painfull2006 said:
runtheplacered said:
painfull2006 said:
the management of DLC is better as well
You'll have to explain this one. Particularly since there's a "mod manager" for the PC that was user created, and works like a wonder. Even without it, it's a matter of "drag and drop" the files into the folder. Put a checkmark next to whatever mod/DLC you want and that's it. How could it be any easier?

I'm completely fine with people saying the 360 version is better for them. I don't really care. But can't anybody at least support their reason for saying that with something logical?
I mean downloading form xbox live seams safer, less likely to go wrong, cant be corrupted ect
I don't know that I've seen a corrupted downloaded file since my days of dial-up. But even so, you could always redownload the file.
 

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runtheplacered said:
painfull2006 said:
runtheplacered said:
painfull2006 said:
the management of DLC is better as well
You'll have to explain this one. Particularly since there's a "mod manager" for the PC that was user created, and works like a wonder. Even without it, it's a matter of "drag and drop" the files into the folder. Put a checkmark next to whatever mod/DLC you want and that's it. How could it be any easier?

I'm completely fine with people saying the 360 version is better for them. I don't really care. But can't anybody at least support their reason for saying that with something logical?
I mean downloading form xbox live seams safer, less likely to go wrong, cant be corrupted ect
I don't know that I've seen a corrupted downloaded file since my days of dial-up. But even so, you could always redownload the file.
yeah but still, xbox seems easier, no real file management or anything liek that, its like, press A, wait.... play :)
 

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painfull2006 said:
Im prity sure it could support a controller

I tihnk what this boild down to is Xbox=PC>PS3>>>>>>>>>>>>Macs XD
Would I be right in thinking you can't run Oblivion on a Mac in the first place? :p
 

painfull2006

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only those people in denial :p those people who run windows on Macs XD and then i still duno if they could or not :p
 

runtheplacered

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painfull2006 said:
runtheplacered said:
painfull2006 said:
runtheplacered said:
painfull2006 said:
the management of DLC is better as well
You'll have to explain this one. Particularly since there's a "mod manager" for the PC that was user created, and works like a wonder. Even without it, it's a matter of "drag and drop" the files into the folder. Put a checkmark next to whatever mod/DLC you want and that's it. How could it be any easier?

I'm completely fine with people saying the 360 version is better for them. I don't really care. But can't anybody at least support their reason for saying that with something logical?
I mean downloading form xbox live seams safer, less likely to go wrong, cant be corrupted ect
I don't know that I've seen a corrupted downloaded file since my days of dial-up. But even so, you could always redownload the file.
yeah but still, xbox seems easier, no real file management or anything liek that, its like, press A, wait.... play :)
The downside to how easy it seems, is that you have absolutely no control over anything. And of course you're stuck with whatever Bethesda wants to sell you, but the "mods are great" statement has already been made 1,000,000 times in this thread, so no need to beat that dead horse anymore.
 

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runtheplacered said:
Use a gamepad profiler. I figured this was all common knowledge by now, but apparently not. I can't believe I'm really having this conversation right now. I can't help but laugh a little. You can use a 360 controller with every single game that's ever existed, if you really want to.

And, would you go back and read the rest of my previous post? I edited it, because, well... I just had to. I couldn't help myself anymore.
It's not that simple. Yes, you can use a profile to jimmy rig a 360 controller to act as a mouse but that's just treating the pad as a mouse, it doesn't work nearly as well as the 360

For example on the inventory screen on the 360 pushing down selects the item, pushing down again selects the next item. Using profile software on pc you have to use the sticks as a mouse to select items, it doesn't work right.

Buying and selling things is also a big change. its 100x faster to buy and sell with a gamepad as you don't have to constantly move the mouse back and forth from the inventory to the 'how many do you want to sell'/ 'are you sure' box

The same also applies for the dialog boxes and lock picking windows

To put things in perspective imagine playing a game ware instead of moving with the WASD keys you have to click on an on screen arrow keys using a mouse. Thats what controlling the interface is like with a mouse over a gamepad in oblvion. Your solution to the problem is to bind the mouse to a control stick that just makes the situation harder

The only advantage a mouse has with the game is targeting really small items on the ground, and targeting far away people with ranged weapons

The same is true of most games when it comes to console vs pc interfaces. More often then not the situation is much harder then binding wasd to the left stick and the right stick to the mouse which is all profile software does. It doesn't mod the game in a way to that you can select items with the dpad or to move control focus to new windows. If the game doesn't support navigating the interface using keys then profile software isn't going to make the gamepad any good in it
 

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Surely if you wanted to game, you wouldn't go for a Mac? You'd pick something quicker, slicker, better looking..?
 

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The Young One said:
Surely if you wanted to game, you wouldn't go for a Mac? You'd pick something quicker, slicker, better looking..?
they ARE ugly :p

and that video is of a guy running a PC emulator
 

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PC is probably better. If not just for the mods. If only my PC wasn't a whining piece of crap that can't even run a browser right and would probably explode upon being in the presence of Oblivion.
 

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Avida said:
Please bethesda, give us ps3 owners DLC, pleeeeeeeaaaaaseeeeee!
I didn't think they could, reading a quote further back I think?


painfull2006 said:
The Young One said:
Surely if you wanted to game, you wouldn't go for a Mac? You'd pick something quicker, slicker, better looking..?
they ARE ugly :p

and that video is of a guy running a PC emulator
That is one hell of an oxymoron then :p
 

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double post ><

Bored Tomatoe said:
None! Get fallout 3! No? Ok then PC, if you can't get it in PC, then get it for the 360.
I have Fallout 3 for the Xbox and I love it to pieces.
The only feature on the PC that appeals to me?
The giant teddy bear that you can't get to on the Xbox!
 

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Depends what your used to, a PC gamer would feel out of place with a control as would a hardcore xbox user with a mouse
 

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painfull2006 said:
Depends what your used to, a PC gamer would feel out of place with a control as would a hardcore xbox user with a mouse
Like me, when I go back to older games on the PC like Theme Hospital and the likes, it feels alien to me, using the keyboard and the ASDW combination of keys.
I would like to game on the PC, but my laptop has its limitations that wouldn't allow any sort of video game on here, end of. :p
 

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Souplex said:
PC has mods and cheats, 360 has better controls and PS3 has a hefty price tag.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Hahahaha..
Haha..
Ha.
No. Absolutely not.
vivaldiscool said:
Souplex said:
PC has mods and cheats, 360 has better controls and PS3 has a hefty price tag.
Wait, what?

I'm sorry, but, no... Just no.
Glad to see I'm not alone here.

Anyway, PC has a bunch of mods (that make Oblivion an amazing game instead of just a good one,) and it has the best controls.
Xbox...probably crashes less?
I think it's only natural of humans to try and find a specific theme for individual items in a group.
But no, the superior console is PC, without a doubt. If you have a good PC that is. Consoles don't matter, because the PC can have any goddamn gamepad it wants to, you can update easily and most importantly, mod. Whether it's a tiny detail in a remote dungeon, or a balance issue, or a complete overhaul/total conversion mod, it's possible, while on the consoles, it's not. It's literally impossible. So the PS3 and XBOX 360 have absolutely no upper hand over PC. You can even put your pc under your TV, hook it up and pretend it's a 360 by even playing with the 360 controller, and it's still going to be better than the 360. Or PS3 by that matter, but the hefty price tag makes me really not want to consider that.

The only games I prefer playing on the consoles are games easily played on a gamepad, cinematic games, like Okami or Metal Gear Solid, games that you play lying down or sitting comfortably in your couch, and games that are usually played through only once. And the most important use for consoles: singlescreen multiplayer. The PC is usually just not cut out for four people sitting in front of the TV/monitor playing together or taking turns and shouting stuff.
 

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Squarewave said:
runtheplacered said:
Use a gamepad profiler. I figured this was all common knowledge by now, but apparently not. I can't believe I'm really having this conversation right now. I can't help but laugh a little. You can use a 360 controller with every single game that's ever existed, if you really want to.

And, would you go back and read the rest of my previous post? I edited it, because, well... I just had to. I couldn't help myself anymore.
It's not that simple. Yes, you can use a profile to jimmy rig a 360 controller to act as a mouse but that's just treating the pad as a mouse, it doesn't work nearly as well as the 360

For example on the inventory screen on the 360 pushing down selects the item, pushing down again selects the next item. Using profile software on pc you have to use the sticks as a mouse to select items, it doesn't work right.

Buying and selling things is also a big change. its 100x faster to buy and sell with a gamepad as you don't have to constantly move the mouse back and forth from the inventory to the 'how many do you want to sell'/ 'are you sure' box

The same also applies for the dialog boxes and lock picking windows

To put things in perspective imagine playing a game ware instead of moving with the WASD keys you have to click on an on screen arrow keys using a mouse. Thats what controlling the interface is like with a mouse over a gamepad in oblvion. Your solution to the problem is to bind the mouse to a control stick that just makes the situation harder

The only advantage a mouse has with the game is targeting really small items on the ground, and targeting far away people with ranged weapons

The same is true of most games when it comes to console vs pc interfaces. More often then not the situation is much harder then binding wasd to the left stick and the right stick to the mouse which is all profile software does. It doesn't mod the game in a way to that you can select items with the dpad or to move control focus to new windows. If the game doesn't support navigating the interface using keys then profile software isn't going to make the gamepad any good in it
I'm fully aware of how gamepad profilers work. I use them myself for a select few games (Freestyle Basketball for one, that game is pretty fun.) I see we disagree on the M&K vs. controller debate, and I don't really feel like turning this discussion into that. We'd end up arguing for 5-6 posts each, and turn this entire discussion into our own little pissing ground. Let's just say I thoroughly disagree with you on the "only advantage a mouse has" and save that discussion for a more relevant thread.

The other problem is that my initial point is lost amongst these mountains of replies, and has now been buried. The guy said that Oblivion for 360 is better because you can use a 360 controller. I made a comment that you can in fact hook up your 360 controller to your PC, for those that are unfamiliar. I don't think it's quite as bad as you're making it sound, but surely people can make up their own minds. I've known plenty of people to play their games this way, and although I've heard some complaints, it certainly seemed completely doable. But it's really neither here nor there. The OP probably already has a preference to either a M&K or a 360 controller, right? So why are we insulting his intelligence with comments like "360 version is better because of a 360 controller."?

I'm just not convinced that the OP is so ignorant of his own likes and dislikes that somebody needs to tell him what kind of a controller he needs to play with.