Semitendon said:
Rednog said:
No, I am not.
The first reason is that I have a genetic kidney disease which causes hypertension. I've pretty much lived with it my entirely life and I'm sure my organs have taken a beating from it and would be fairly useless. Also, I will point out that while I do sound like a complete dick below, I have tried to donate blood and was denied.
But if my organs were fine, I would not be one. Being a med student and having talked to various doctors and having the subject come up. There are various doctors who will check whether or not a person is an organ donor and will be less likely to undergo a risky or a low chance surgery/ set of actions to help a person if they are an organ donor. Instead they will go for transplanting the organs. Maybe I sound like a greedy twat, but if I ever come into a hospital in a terrible condition I want doctors to do absolutely every thing they can to save my ass and not give up on me because I'm an organ donor.
Yes I know it is something that saves lives, and that in real life I will need an organ transplant for my kidneys but the idea that someone wouldn't try to save my life but instead opt for someone else is just horrifying to me.
And before someone jumps down my throat, yes I know not every doctor thinks like this, I've met enough that do think like this that I wouldn't want to take my chances.
A genetic disease in the kidneys could cause problems for donation of the KIDNEYS. But that is all. Hypertension is a common ailment, and does not affect donation in any way.
Sorry, you are wrong, my kidney disease also can cause damage in the liver, pancreas, and in some cases (though somewhat rare, but from my impression not rare enough that I get a yearly battery of tests) the heart and brain. That combined with hypertension which causes damage to your heart/eyes in general and various blood vessels you are looking at a handful of organs that are highly questionable.
Since you did not mention why you were turned down for blood donation, I can only speculate, but the common reasons are high risk activity, such as recent piercings, tattoos, or a sexual lifestyle that would indicate an increased risk for viral infection.
I was denied because of the medications I was on, they said that if I used a certain set of medications and my hypertension was under control when they took my BP it would be fine.
You say you are a "med student", which I find that claim to be highly suspect, as you would have known the specifics of hypertension and kidneys in relation to transplantation, as well as the fact that hypertension does not deliver a "beating" to many of the organs that can be transplanted.
1) I pretty offended by this, primarily since going into medicine isn't easy, I've had to bust my ass for a great deal of years, take out large loans to pay for school, and have to bust my ass for a lot more years to get through med school and being an intern before I see a dime of profit. And secondly because you go about it in such an arrogant and condescending manner to not only point out something you disagree about but instead attack the poster's credibility.
2) Maybe you are under the wrong impression from watching too many medical dramas but the title of med student is a hard thing to nail down, in just a few years so much info has to be crammed down. You make the assumption that a med student should know everything. Guess what, I am a first year med student, and we are currently working on the thorax. We started in osteo, moved to CNS, head and neck and now thorax. Maybe in your world med students are like in Scrubs where they are handling patients in the first month of their first year and diagnosing diseases on real people, but that isn't how the real world works.
Now, I don't know about other countries, but in the US it is highly unlikely for any doctor to deny treatment, or give substandard treatment, on the basis that you are a organ donor.In the US, the UNOS system assignes donation priority, not the doctors themselves. Doctors are nothing more than the deciding factor in whether an available organ is right for their patient, and the surgeons who actually remove/transplant the organ. They have no say in who gets which organ, other than the ability to refuse an organ. There is no logical or financial benefit for a doctor to willfully allow an organ donor to die.
Furthermore, on a statistical basis, the organs from an organ donor usually only extend a recipients life by a short amount, and that's assuming there are no complications. The idea of allowing one relatively healthy person to die, so that a handful of ill people can theoretically live a few more years on average, makes absolutely no sense.
Might want to go back and
read what I posted. The English language is one of fine details, that you either ignored or missed. I specifically said in the case of a risky or a low chance surgery/ set of actions or if I came into a hospital in a terrible condition (meaning if I sustained some sort of life threatening injury or was screwed up in some terrible way).
I do not see any point in my first post about doctor's deciding who gets what organ, or about assigning the priority of who gets what.
My post addressed a completely theoretical case in which I was in such a condition that I had a pretty good chance of dying, the surgeon would try but might not go that extra mile to try and save me because it is clear that I am an organ donor and the beneficial thing to do would be to prep and get those organs and the recipient ready.
I'm not talking about some one coming in with a broken arm and the doctor taking them in the back and choking them to death because they are an organ donor. In no way did I say a doctor is going to kill a completely healthy person for a few sick people.
I'm talking about a very rare situation and theoretical situation which I, if I was an organ donor, would feel uncomfortable about. And actually have been somewhat paranoid about since years ago when I got stabbed in the back and went into the emergency room, one of their first questions was "Are you an organ donor?" and my thought was wtf does this have to do with anything, I'm bleeding out, I need to be stitched up.
In the future, please do not spread misinformation and urban legends about donation, as it may affect the decision to donate by others, and thus rob the potential recipient of a chance at a longer life.
Incidently, I work in organ and tissue transplant, hence the name Semitendon, after Semitendinosus, a tendon which can be used for transplant.
In the future, please don't be condescending and a complete jerk about a post you disagree with, you clearly have an agenda and are fairly biased and aggressive in a forum where it is asking people why or why they aren't organs donors. If I was a person standing out side a hospital screaming at people not to be organ donors then yes I would agree you have every right to browbeat them. Also you claim to work for "organ and tissue transplant" yet you seem to think that there is no genetic kidney disease who affects other organs and you seem to be oblivious of the stress hypertension puts on the eyes/heart and why a person with hypertension might be denied for donating blood. Might want to rethink that work or you might want to go back to school to learn a bit more since, as you put it, misinformation can rob a potential recipient of a chance at a longer life, or in this case giving a person a bad organ can harm them.