Poll: Poker - Luck or Skill based game?

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Poker is probably referred to as a game of luck by those who are not good at it, and as a game of skill by those who are.
 

hamsterkilla

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From personal experience I would go with skill. I was in one tournament and had terrible luck. I kept on being dealt shitty cards the entire game, But through reading other players and bluffing once or twice I made it to 17 place out of 90 or so players. So all-in-all skill may not of won me the match but I would of been long gone without it.

Also I think it depends on the type of poker game being played. Texas hold-em imo requires more skill while 5 card stud or omaha is more based on luck.
 
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I think skill has more to do with it as you have to not only have the skill to be able to formulate the most effective uses for your cards, but also the skill of being able to read people's body language really well, which can be very difficult with other experienced players.

Luck just determines which cards you get, skill determines if you can win with a bad hand.
 

likalaruku

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Skill = How long you last, how far you get.
Luck = The deciding factor in the end, no matter how good you are or how bad you suck.
 

blankedboy

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Dude, without a 'both' button the poll is pointless. There's the luck of what you get, the skill of risk-taking, the skill of calculation odds, the skill of seeing others' reactions...
 

DazZ.

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I'd go with a bit of both if I had the choice, and I'm not reading pages worth of posts to see if this has been said already.

At the start of a game the luck factor is much higher, and as the game goes on it takes more and more skill.
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Enigmers

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likalaruku said:
Skill = How long you last, how far you get.
Luck = The deciding factor in the end, no matter how good you are or how bad you suck.
What exactly is "the end"? I think that, if the end is the end of your life, how good you are is infinitely more important than how lucky you may have gotten. Unless, fo course, you are terrible at bankroll management.
 

JWAN

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You have to know what to do or else you lay down random cards and die a slow bankrupt death
 

Arenari

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I can't actually take part in the poll, mostly because I seriously think that poker requires a little of both.
 

likalaruku

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Enigmers said:
likalaruku said:
Skill = How long you last, how far you get.
Luck = The deciding factor in the end, no matter how good you are or how bad you suck.
What exactly is "the end"? I think that, if the end is the end of your life, how good you are is infinitely more important than how lucky you may have gotten. Unless, fo course, you are terrible at bankroll management.
The end of each round of poker, duh :p
 

Semitendon

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anthony87 said:
Anyone who says luck is more important than skill has never played a serious game of poker in their life.
Basically this.

I play poker. A lot. I placed 3rd in a tournament and won $1,500. I've played in a number of tournaments, and I play with friends ( who know what they are doing) just about every week.

Luck is maybe 10% of the game, and that's a high number.

When I play with my friends, my buddy Ryan, his wife Nicole, and I usually end up winning. Virtually every game, one of us wins, and one of the other of us come in second. There are seven other people that typically play with us, although, not always one the same night. When roughly 90% of the winning in a series of games, goes to the same three people, it shows a clear demonstration that skill is more important than luck.

By the way, I need some money, and given the amount of people on this site who think that luck is such a big part of the game. . . would anyone like to play poker with me? ;)
 

TheRocketeer

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There is an undeniable level of skill involved in poker. Every poker group has that one guy in it that always takes everyone else for their wad because he's just that much better.

But at the end of the day, that skill has to be applied to the cards you get, and there's no controlling that.
 

Koganesaga

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Sure it takes skill to know when you should fold or bet, or bluff. It also takes skill to count cards and see when it's advantageous to continue, hell if you know the formulas the auto shufflers use you can even know exactly what is what, but if we're talking about poker shuffled by humans it is luck, because no matter how skilled you are you can't know what is going to happen. It's pretty much like picking marbles out of a bag, no matter how many marbles of the same color you put in (the skill) as long as there is still some of different color (randomness) you can't always win (luck).
 

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Skill all the way. I've had someone make me so nervous I folded when I had a 4 of a kind 4 fives. Found out the asshole had nothing.
 

Lim3

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Luck - your opponent's perception of you is easy enough to manipulate, but it means nothing if you're not a lucky bastard.