Poll: Politicly Correct my A**

[Kortney]

My apologies, and I do mean that because usually I don't make such typos (and I too find them annoying).

It's cool!

I'm not black but I think changing it to African American is kind of stupid, but that's a discussion I'd rather not get into (so chalk that up to opinion).

Changing it from Niggers to black was definitely good though.

Here is where you need to learn a bit of empathy (which I think has been your problem during your conversation with Serenegoose.)

You may not have to agree with it, but surely you can understand why African-American people don't want to be reminded of the colour of their skin every time they turn a corner. It's degrading. Imagine every time you did something you were referred to as "that white guy" and patronised. It's not nice.

You make a strong argument. I'll have to concede that it served a useful purpose (and probably still does). I still think modern PC goes to ridiculous lengths sometimes, but that's another argument.

I agree. Modern political correctness does sometimes look a bit ridiculous. It's all worth it though - because now people of minority or disability are able to live in a society where they aren't ridiculed and reminded of it every day.

 

[Harbinger_]

Example 5: You can't say Merry Christmas in alot of places anymore it needs to be Happy Holidays, a Christmas Tree is a holiday tree and alot of schools are doing away with Christmas Pagents all together but people that celebrate Kwanzaa or Hanukkah are fully able to celebrate their holidays without these same restrictions.

There are of course alot more than this for examples and again I would like stress that I have nothing against people of other genders or race or orientation but I am against the term politically correct and how it practically reads "Hypocritical Action."

Only Example 5 seems to be what we're talking about (we're talking about speech) so I'll bite where exactly can you not say Merry Christmas?

Canada.

 

[8-Bit Grin]

Reminds me of a Nick Swardson joke, he says that he said retard at a show, and afterwards a lady told him that saying retard is offensive to people who know the mentally challenged. and he shouldnt say it. He then said "thats retarded"

I was actually referencing a joke by Ralphie May, but I suppose the basics still apply.

In his skit Girth of the Nation, he gives a speech about the highest level of happiness that a human being can reach:

Tard Happy.

Retards have it all the time.

Normal people experience it at the height of a really good orgasm.

 

[The Man With the Soap]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

Actually most lefties (myself included) are for all forms of freedom. Freedom of speech is one of the most important one, lefties try to defend it, actively.

Who you really are trying to blame is the "pussy lefties" or as the like to be known "overly-sensitive-minded"...


God damn hippies.

You are such an idiot.

 

[dark_mist34]

Yes to treating every one equally. But no to calling a fat person "differently sized" or stupid people "exceptional" that's just stupid.

 

[Tanis]

Political Correctness:
Freedom of Speech, as long as we like what you have to say.


I'd say a KKK member talking about porch monkeys being evil or a Black Panther blaming 'The White Man' for black on black violence is better than some ACLU brats complaining that 'Man in the Moon' is sexist and 'the n-word' (N+Tigger-T) should be ban.

At least racists like KKK and Black Panther members are open about being jackasses, these politically correct retards just high behind two big words.

Words are not bad or evil, anymore than a gun or knife is.
It's the intent behind and the way that they are used that matters and every time folks like the 'Reverend' Jessy Jackson complains about the 'n-word' it only empowers the person who is using the word to evoke terror and hate.


It's like Harry Potter and 'he who must not be named'.

 

[KP Shadow]

Example 3: Black History Month. (I have nothing against black people or women or gay people btw) There isn't a white history month, hispanic history month, asian history month.

Actually, there IS a month to celebrate the heritage of those of... latino persuasion (Cookie for reference). Also, the thing about "african-american" being used to refer to blacks, most blacks in the U.S. are African-Americans, but not all African-Americans are black. There's also those with Egyptian heritage, and those who descended from whites who settled in South Africa.

 

[baconated]

The problem is that in English there have been several attempts to introduce a new gender neutral pronoun set and it's never worked. I believe the list is up to about 15 or 20 by this point. Forcing yourself to use them feels unnatural because it's not what you have lived with your whole life, and trying to teach from birth doesn't really work since everyone around them won't use those pronouns. So since the feminist movement has made using the male pronoun set incorrect (just replacing it with the female in most cases which is just as sexist) we're generally left with the grammatically incorrect 'they'.... So I'm stuck with 'they'.

Up until the Victorian Era (or maybe the end of the Victorian Era), they was used as the neutral third person singular pronoun. As much as your highschool English teacher will try to say otherwise, they has been used this way for much longer than it has not.

Funnily enough, there are also 'it' and 'one' for third person neutral pronouns. 'One' just seems awkward and/or pretentious these days, and 'it' seems to dehumanize the target.

 

[Kinguendo]

Everytime I hear people talking about this and being against it they go into these ridiculous hypothetical situations that will never happen... Why the fuck would someone call a black eye "mouse"?!

Everyime its just people manufacturing their own anger through their own imaginings. No one is asking you to call black people something crazy like "different shade on the spectrum of colours" person... we just ask that you dont call them words created for the sole purpose of disparaging that group, and y'know... maybe lay off the Jews, they have been through a lot already.

 

[waterwithoutfish]

Maggio says that when refering to a group of mixed gener or a person of unknown gender, we must not use words and phrases that imply masculinity (he, sir, waiter, ect...). Again, hard to dispute, but later she goes to suggest the general removal of the letter combinations m-a-n and m-e-n from many everyday words.
Under this policy, we would also have to change a great many other words on the grounds that they might offend 1 person out of 10,000. Fat would become "big-boned" or "differently sized", Stupid becomes "exceptional", and Stoned would be re-branded as "chemically inconvenienced".To prevent the chance of seeming racist, we would need to change "black eye" to "mouse", "black mail" to "payola", and "black sheep" to "outcast".
And these changes would need to be implemented, not just in writing, but in verbal communication as well.

http://www.neiu.edu/~circill/F757J.pdf

Here's a link to what I'm pretty sure is the article you're referring to. I think many people who've posted on this thread might be interested to read it, since it doesn't seem to say most of the things you seem to think it does.

For instance, in discussing opposition to bias-free language, she writes:
"Cases have been built up against the mythic "woperson," "personipulate," and "personhole cover" (none of which have ever been advocated by any sociolinguist)."
Maggio is absolutley *opposed* to the "general removal of the letter combinations m-a-n and m-e-n from many everyday words."

Nor does she ever advocate changing "fat" to "big boned," "black sheep" to "outcast," or any of those other examples that you provided in the last part of your post.

You're building a big fuckoff PC strawman to argue against. You wanna argue for your right to use sexist, racist, heterosexist, etc. language? Fine. Please do it honestly.

 

[Anarchy In Detroit]

Fuck political correctness. PC is a way of getting people worked up over nothing.

I used to be fat. I got the fuck off of my ass and quit complaining when I got sweaty. Are there people who have certain conditions making them heavier? Yes. But there is no reason to be over 300 lbs. and you can change every little thing you do. In an effort to defend themselves from insults many fat people unfortunately just made excuses that they came to believe.

 

[bad_dog14]

Political correctness sucks balls and is abused by dicks who want to censor something they don't like.

 

[skitzo van]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

No,no,no, I consider myself a hippy and I despise political correctness and this just bustles my buns (*giggles*). Why can't people just learn to shut the hell up and not get offended by every single damn sound emanating from a mouth?