Poll: Poll: If you ever have a daughter, will you have her circumcised?

[Aphex Demon]

Wait, female circumcisions are an option? I've honestly never heard of anything along those lines.

Yeah agreed, I didnt even know you could circu... yeah.

OT: Like one of the posts above said, for men it is a hygiene thing, but to imagine someone getting a knife down there on me... DO NOT WANT.

Actually, why is there even a fucking thread on this? Seriously? I mean yeah the OP could be interested in asking but why on here?...

 

[ADDLibrarian]

Actually, I regularly ***** to people about irresponsible parents giving their children piercings. Even so, it's not the same thing. leave out an earring, and the hole will heal, cut off a part of a penis and it will stay cut off.

See my response to post above yours (bein lazy, don't want to retype) ^^

 

[Sandernista]

for men, circumsision is a matter of hygiene: it's not necessary, but it's more hygienic.

for women, there is zero advantage to being circumcised, and in fact poses many health risks during the operation.
i would die before i let anyone touch my daughter with a knife in that place for no good reason whatsoever.

This is true. If I've got my facts straight, circumcision for men is really only a health benefit if anything. But circumcision for women can be very detrimental and unsafe.

It's not just a coincidence that there are more groups against female circumcision then there are against male circumcision.

So you don't think it is a result of western religions targeting men's genitals and forcing them to internalise and accept their abuses whilst finding the similar practices of non christian religions abhorrent?

Hmm, because removing the clitoris and labia is completely equal to removing a bit of porous skin?

You really disgust me.

 

[megaraccoon]

why? i'm welsh and as far as any of us currently in the pub know only jews have that done in fact was a bit of a surprise to most of us, especially the bar maids that woman could be circumcised.

I don't know whether you're just ignorent or trolling, and I really hate saying that around here because it's overused and done to death, but here's a few things I'll tell you.
Firstly, female "circumcision" happens mostly in Africa and occasionally in the Middle East. That is to say, it's Muslims that do it, and not usually for religious reasons. Not Jews.
Secondly, almost half the people in the UK who are circumcised aren't Jewish. http://www.circlist.com/rites/uk.html
And finally, female circumcision involves heavy mutilation of the genitals. Calling it circumcision is like calling a rabid grizzly bear a fluffy bundle of love.

So there you go, learn something new every day.

indeed thanks for the lesson also im not trolling but i am ignorant you'll forgive both me and my associates here if the genital practises of the middle east and africa have slipped by us some what, as it's not generally a topic of discussion here.

 

[StormShaun]

Im Christain.....so no

 

[Queen Michael]

Nope, I won't. Not into that sort of thing, me.

 

[SoranMBane]

No, not even if it was the law. Out of all the barbaric, irrational cultural practices that still haunt our world, female circumcision is probably one of the worst.

 

[Alexnader]

for men, circumsision is a matter of hygiene: it's not necessary, but it's more hygienic.

for women, there is zero advantage to being circumcised, and in fact poses many health risks during the operation.
i would die before i let anyone touch my daughter with a knife in that place for no good reason whatsoever.

This is true. If I've got my facts straight, circumcision for men is really only a health benefit if anything. But circumcision for women can be very detrimental and unsafe.

It's not just a coincidence that there are more groups against female circumcision then there are against male circumcision.

So you don't think it is a result of western religions targeting men's genitals and forcing them to internalise and accept their abuses whilst finding the similar practices of non christian religions abhorrent?

Firstly I don't believe Christians have a definite standpoint on circumcision as they aren't bound by the old testament like the Jewish religion.

Furthermore I think you're overestimating the scope of western religion, it's not Christian organisations that are the main lobby groups against female circumcision but human rights organisations. They refer to the process as genital mutilation for while there was some debate about the health benefits of male circumcision there is almost no scientific doubt that female circumcision or mutilation is dangerous, exposes the genitals to more pathogens (in removing the outer labia) and can actually have a significant negative impact on female sexual enjoyment. In my opinon the process seems to be a physical representation of the cultural subjugation of women to the needs and whims of men.

 

[Shuswah_Noir]

I get that the OP is trolling the other thread. But this is not the topic to be trolling.
What happens to women in African countries when they are mutilated (not circumcised) is nothing short of horrific.
I personally find this thread to be offensive on the grounds that your making light of an issue of human rights. And I'm someone who is offended by next to nothing.
This thread has been reported. And I wish unpleasantness upon the OP.

 

[moretimethansense]

In case non-African users don't know, the FCG Education and Networking Project estimates more than half of females in Kenya are circumcised, so it's pretty much the norm here. However, a backlash started in recent years among women who felt there were certain disadvantages to being circumcised, and there are numerous websites devoted to rehabilitation. On the other hand, there are also lots of guys (and some women) who argue that being circumcised is better.

Personally, I'm cut, but my parents are hardly religious so I'm not sure why they had me circumcised, but not that I've really been jumping to have that conversation with them. If you have a daughter, will you have her circumcised?

I c wat ur doin' here.

No, I'd never have my daughter circumcised, nor would I do the same of my son.
Unless there is a direct medical need, it's just mutilation.

 

[Mantonio]

for men, circumcision is a matter of hygiene: it's not necessary, but it's more hygienic.

It's more hygienic the same way being scalped is more hygienic. Because hey - less hair to wash!

 

[Shuswah_Noir]

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

 

[BlindTom]

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

Successful thread is successful.

I think there are a lot of similarities though. The magnitude if the suffering inflicted upon children is not what makes it right or wrong. The very fact of the suffering itself does that.

 

[Shuswah_Noir]

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

Successful thread is successful.

I think there are a lot of similarities though. The magnitude if the suffering inflicted upon children is not what makes it right or wrong. The very fact of the suffering itself does that.

What similarities would that be?
The equivalent would be cutting off the entire dick, not just the foreskin. Medical reasons aside, as they are both redundant practices in my opinion, FGM is barbaric, male circumcision is cruel, but not nearly on the same level. The suffering is not a life time for a male, it is for a female.

 

[BlindTom]

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

Successful thread is successful.

I think there are a lot of similarities though. The magnitude if the suffering inflicted upon children is not what makes it right or wrong. The very fact of the suffering itself does that.

What similarities would that be?
The equivalent would be cutting off the entire dick, not just the foreskin. Medical reasons aside, as they are both redundant practices in my opinion, FGM is barbaric, male circumcision is cruel, but not nearly on the same level. The suffering is not a life time for a male, it is for a female.

What about if I only cut off a little bit of my daughters genitals? Is it ok then? She probably won't even notice.

 

[Shuswah_Noir]

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

Successful thread is successful.

I think there are a lot of similarities though. The magnitude if the suffering inflicted upon children is not what makes it right or wrong. The very fact of the suffering itself does that.

What similarities would that be?
The equivalent would be cutting off the entire dick, not just the foreskin. Medical reasons aside, as they are both redundant practices in my opinion, FGM is barbaric, male circumcision is cruel, but not nearly on the same level. The suffering is not a life time for a male, it is for a female.

What about if I only cut off a little bit of my daughters genitals? Is it ok then? She probably won't even notice.

You didn't answer my question.

And I already said I don't agree with male circumcision, so I hardly see what you meant to achieve with that comment.

 

[dex-dex]

um no neither my son
no better point to make IF I do have any type of off spring that will be a miracle to begin with.

 

[BlindTom]

I answered your question. The similarity is that they are both genital mutilation. Just because one is worse than the other doesn't mean they aren't ultimately both the same disgusting practice.

There seem to be way to many people in this thread who aren't seeing that this isn't a religious thing, and that it is no way, shape, or form, the same thing as male circumcision.

This thread has actually made me realize that one of the charities that needs to be added to my list that I donate to regularly is one that combats issues like this. Much to my disgust I must have overlooked it.

Successful thread is successful.

I think there are a lot of similarities though. The magnitude if the suffering inflicted upon children is not what makes it right or wrong. The very fact of the suffering itself does that.

What similarities would that be?
The equivalent would be cutting off the entire dick, not just the foreskin. Medical reasons aside, as they are both redundant practices in my opinion, FGM is barbaric, male circumcision is cruel, but not nearly on the same level. The suffering is not a life time for a male, it is for a female.

What about if I only cut off a little bit of my daughters genitals? Is it ok then? She probably won't even notice.

You didn't answer my question.

And I already said I don't agree with male circumcision, so I hardly see what you meant to achieve with that comment.

I answered your question. The similarity is that they are both genital mutilation. Just because one is worse than the other doesn't mean they aren't ultimately both the same disgusting practice.

 

[jh322]

Ok so this thread is pretty stupid, but if the only thing it accomplishes is informing more people about this practice then all the better for it. Seriously, this happens, and that's not funny.