Poll: Pornography, good? bad? something in between?

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The Consequence

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Would you like to work with me, I'd love to work you.
These days are great and so are you.
I think it's something positive, and negative too.
 

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i would say that porn is quite good. Most of the problems associated with it I do not think of as problems with porn inherently but problems with sex and society. Things such as showing an unrealistic portrayal of sex. If society could get rid of its horror of talking about sex then these ideas would be exposed for how far from the truth they are and people would be more likely to treat porn as it is, a fantasy.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
I play a game with porn, how many minutes it takes for them to forget the story line and start boning
This is the weirdest thing I've ever bonded with somebody over.

I do the same thing.

The best part is...

I guess I'll say "after" when I find myself trying to remember what the plot was supposed to be. Happen to notice a police uniform in the corner of the screen and just nod.

Oh...right...

Porn can certainly be negative, especially if you find yourself in the dark corners of the internet. It reminds me of that movie Coyote Ugly.

You go into the film "Drunk" and afterwords you are like...my god...I'm the filthiest creature in the world...
 

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LetalisK said:
Pornography is the highest art form. It brings some people so much happiness that they orgasm. Can Van Gogh say that?
Best. Quote. Ever.

Porn is fine. It's just a way for people to either learn a slight more about sex or find something new to try with a partner.
 

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I don't watch porn, I have a girlfriend. I know that sounds like a typical douchey answer, but seriously. I don't need dozens (if not hundreds in some cases) of naked people having sex to get me sexually aroused. My girlfriend does that fine.
Leaving aside all the ethical, moral, and sometimes legal issues, I see pornography as superfluous.
I don't think it shouldn't exists or that it's "the devil trying to corrupt the good little boys and girls!" but I don't need it. It has no point in my life; and (now this is where I push an envelope) I think that anyone in a serious committed relationship has no need for it either.
 

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Porn is fucking great. As someone from a very sheltered background with very... *ahem* /unusual/ *ahem*... tastes... porn was an invaluable tool for self-exploration for me, personally, in combination with the communities around the sub-genres of porn. Furthermore, sex isn't scary to me now. It's beautiful and satisfying. :D
 

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Schreck157 said:
I don't watch porn, I have a girlfriend. I know that sounds like a typical douchey answer, but seriously. I don't need dozens (if not hundreds in some cases) of naked people having sex to get me sexually aroused.
I have an oven and all the supplies the bake a cake.

I still sometimes buy premade cakes >_>.

But maybe we are looking at it differently.

Porn to me is a lot like sports. Just because I can go and play basketball doesn't necessarily mean I can't see a point in Watching it and cheering along.
 

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Good, Bad.

What does it matter. We're all talking monkeys on a rock floating in space.
 

Sexy Devil

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Matthew94 said:
DoPo said:
Matthew94 said:
Yeah, a man can't fix the plumbing that fast.
You've been watching too much porn. Or too little, maybe - it's totally possible. It just takes a lot of practice.
What I mean is this. The guy walks in and is working for about 30s before he starts being blown (clearly as part of the plumbing or something), then he fucks then leaves the home and the plumbing is done. It's amazing. Maybe it's fixed with sexual energy or something.
More importantly, how does the pizza guy not get fired? Other peoples' pizzas are in the car getting cold while he's off having his fun. Even if their hot, steamy passion keeps the pizzas warm it's still a huge blow (going to pretend I intended that pun) to the store's productivity. Between the lateness and the smelling like sex they'll probably permanently lose some customers.

The pizza guy can't fuck his way out of everything.
 

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octafish said:
Only being turned on by porn. Not able to perform in real life without having porn on.
Vault101 said:
that kind of thing can happen?..huh
I saw that episode of CSI: Miami too. Come on, disorder. If you can't get a stimulated organ to react by touching it, something's wrong wit'cha bawdy. Does not happen just from watching too much porn, or I'd be a permanent resident of Softtown right now.

And I like porn. It's really great. Holds you over until more sex of your own.
 

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Lucem712 said:
I don't know if it's beneficial, though it could be argued that it prevents sexual violence. (Maybe?) since it can be simulated legally and such. (That's totally made up, though I'd imagine it would. Not that I'm qualified to make a statement like that. :p )
Statistically, apparently it does not, its very common for sex offenders to use pornography.

It is true that the rise in internet pornogprahy has coincided with a decrease in sex crimes (in the west), but that's not to say there must be a link.

...

Anyway, whether or not it good or bad...I'm going to say that it shouldn't be bad, that there is nothing inherently wrong with it.

In current practice, however, there are loads of problems.

Firstly, there are all sorts of people that treat pornography as sex education. Of course you could argue that this isn't a problem with porn, rather that with too many really fucking stupid people around.

Secondly, there are lots of very shady areas within the porn industry. Pornographic actresses tend to suffer terrible stigma if they try for other careers (not sure if the same applies to men, but then they aren't the focal point so much, less likely to get recognised, perhaps). There's also problems with abuse, much the same as with the rest of the sex industry.

I'd say that a lot of the problem is that in our society, people are almost expected to consume porn, there is something "unmanly" about men than don't, and people of both sexes are supposed to want their sexuality to follow the very warped depictions seen in porn.
 

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Schreck157 said:
I don't watch porn, I have a girlfriend. I know that sounds like a typical douchey answer, but seriously. I don't need dozens (if not hundreds in some cases) of naked people having sex to get me sexually aroused. My girlfriend does that fine.
Leaving aside all the ethical, moral, and sometimes legal issues, I see pornography as superfluous.
I don't think it shouldn't exists or that it's "the devil trying to corrupt the good little boys and girls!" but I don't need it. It has no point in my life; and (now this is where I push an envelope) I think that anyone in a serious committed relationship has no need for it either.
What about someone in my case, for which my kinks, paraphilias, what have you, are either physically impossible to carry out in person, or life-threatening to do so? What if thinking of that is one of the few ways available to achieve a satisfying orgasm, and my significant other finds these kinks, paraphilias, distasteful? Am I expected to forgo those orgasms? Is my significant other expected to forgo sexual pleasure at all in occasional sexual encounters so that I might achieve those orgasms? Furthermore, am I expected to come up with novel and engaging material to imagine in a vacuum?

I understand where you're coming from, talking about vanilla porn, but I'm from off the map of the internet, and here there be monsters.
 

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renegade7 said:
I think it is beneficial when it helps people become comfortable with the idea of sexuality, and also become more comfortable with and aware of their own sexuality, get a better idea of what they might like, what they might not like, etc.

I think pornography is harmful when people base their ideas of sexuality off of it and develop unrealistic ideas about sex, the body, relationships, etc, and when it degrades the importance if intimacy in a relationship. Porno is a form of entertainment, it is not a guidebook that will teach you better ways to have sex, how real people have sex, and it ignores the potential consequences of sex.

So, as with all things, there is a good side and a bad side, and it all depends on your personal perspective. I think this is one of the main reasons that we should have age restrictions on porn, and also why sex ed should be taught in school. If you have the context to view it properly, then it's great and harmless fun, if you don't have that maturity and knowledge then it can be damaging.
Well said, I think you make a strong case.
 

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theultimateend said:
Evil Smurf said:
I play a game with porn, how many minutes it takes for them to forget the story line and start boning
I guess I'll say "after" when I find myself trying to remember what the plot was supposed to be. Happen to notice a police uniform in the corner of the screen and just nod.
Record is 8 minutes, I would link to it, but you know being banned from the forums is not my idea of fun. Also I forgot which video it was. On the subject, who even pays for porn any more?
 

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Evil Smurf said:
theultimateend said:
Evil Smurf said:
I play a game with porn, how many minutes it takes for them to forget the story line and start boning
I guess I'll say "after" when I find myself trying to remember what the plot was supposed to be. Happen to notice a police uniform in the corner of the screen and just nod.
Record is 8 minutes, I would link to it, but you know being banned from the forums is not my idea of fun. Also I forgot which video it was. On the subject, who even pays for porn any more?
I don't think anyone does and that's probably best.

Porn is probably healthier and safer when it is fun. If you put Capitalism into the mix (on the large scale) dirty things start to happen and people get hurt :/.

My personal favorites are those amateur groups where they just have like web ads and a donate button.

There was a couple on Reddit that ended up both quitting their jobs because their videos were making them more than their combined salary :eek:. Pretty cool. It's like kickstarter but for...

You know...stuff.

I feel like I'm tiptoeing around words just so I don't come back to this website with a ban haha.

Ryan Brimfield said:
renegade7 said:
I think it is beneficial when it helps people become comfortable with the idea of sexuality, and also become more comfortable with and aware of their own sexuality, get a better idea of what they might like, what they might not like, etc.

I think pornography is harmful when people base their ideas of sexuality off of it and develop unrealistic ideas about sex, the body, relationships, etc, and when it degrades the importance if intimacy in a relationship. Porno is a form of entertainment, it is not a guidebook that will teach you better ways to have sex, how real people have sex, and it ignores the potential consequences of sex.

So, as with all things, there is a good side and a bad side, and it all depends on your personal perspective. I think this is one of the main reasons that we should have age restrictions on porn, and also why sex ed should be taught in school. If you have the context to view it properly, then it's great and harmless fun, if you don't have that maturity and knowledge then it can be damaging.
Well said, I think you make a strong case.
I would like to see "mental age" restrictions.

I saw my first porn when I was barely in my teens. It wasn't anything crazy mind you but it didn't really do much but reinforce the fact that girls were neat.

I'm more worried about the US's approach to sexuality, there are a lot of damaging practices here.

But as was mentioned, education, honest and open education, is key.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
theultimateend said:
Evil Smurf said:
I play a game with porn, how many minutes it takes for them to forget the story line and start boning
I guess I'll say "after" when I find myself trying to remember what the plot was supposed to be. Happen to notice a police uniform in the corner of the screen and just nod.
Record is 8 minutes, I would link to it, but you know being banned from the forums is not my idea of fun. Also I forgot which video it was. On the subject, who even pays for porn any more?
8 minutes is nothing. Once saw a porno that took like half an hour to get into it. Took so long that I stopped playing the counting game (I do it too guys, we can all be creepy together!) and just got into the good stuff. Pretty sure there was more foreplay in the video than there was actual sex.
 

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theultimateend said:
There was a couple on Reddit that ended up both quitting their jobs because their videos were making them more than their combined salary :eek:. Pretty cool. It's like kickstarter but for...

You know...stuff.

I feel like I'm tiptoeing around words just so I don't come back to this website with a ban haha.
in short a kickstarter
*puts on glasses*
worth a fuck
YEAHHHHHHHH
 

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Easton Dark said:
octafish said:
Only being turned on by porn. Not able to perform in real life without having porn on.
Vault101 said:
that kind of thing can happen?..huh
I saw that episode of CSI: Miami too. Come on, disorder. If you can't get a stimulated organ to react by touching it, something's wrong wit'cha bawdy. Does not happen just from watching too much porn, or I'd be a permanent resident of Softtown right now.

And I like porn. It's really great. Holds you over until more sex of your own.
CSI Miami huh? I saw it first at an autobiographical comedy show about recovering from porn addiction, and then referenced in a book about the potential dangers of pornography. Good book, I wish I could remember the title, probably something sensationalist with "porn" and probably "generation y". It was a cold hard look at porn addiction and the dangers of porn as sex education. The author avoided addressing the outright objectification of women to focus on the less obvious problems porn can and could have on society at general.