Poll: Pro-nazi or anti nazi?

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bjj hero

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This is the question being asked by German authorities.

Take a read [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8155542.stm]

For those too busy to read a German artist has made a statue of a garden gnome making a nazi salute. It is an offence to glorify the third reich in Germany so officials are deciding if the "art" is an endorcement or a rejection of Nazi ideology.

We obviously know better here at the escapist so I thought I'd start a poll to save them a job as well as hear what your views are.

Is it pro or anti nazi? Is it free speech or race hate? What are your thoughts
 

Rednog

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It is a garden gnome making a nazi salute...really people having nothing better to do than analyze a garden gnome making a nazi salute...
 

Legion

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Well Free Speech can also be Race Hate, they are not mutually exclusive.

As for the first question, that's impossible to say because the person who made it is the only one who knows, seeing as it was his idea.
 

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Obtusifolius said:
It doesn't look ridiculous enough to be ridiculing Nazis. I said pro.
Thats what I was thinking

Now a hilter gnome nazi getting its ass handed to him would have been funny
 

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Machines Are Us said:
Well Free Speech can also be Race Hate, they are not mutually exclusive.
I understand this. In Germany it is illegal to deny the holocaust for example. Do you protect free speech or control race hate?
 

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bjj hero said:
Machines Are Us said:
Well Free Speech can also be Race Hate, they are not mutually exclusive.
I understand this. In Germany it is illegal to deny the holocaust for example. Do you protect free speech or control race hate?
The problem is that if you believe in "free speech" then everything must be ok to say, otherwise it simply does not exist.

Considering that it's illegal to deny it, freedom of speech does not exist in Germany.
 

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Obtusifolius said:
thebrainiac1 said:
Clearly it is a satirization of the nazi idealogy.

Shows how P.C. addicted our modern society is.
No, what it shows is how different things can be interpreted differently by different people.
Sorry, what?

The German government is desperate to avoid provoking the offence of anyone negatively affected by the Nazi regime by suppressing anything appearing to be pro-Nazi.

How does this show
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how different things can be interpreted differently by different people.
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Even if this was pro-nazi imagery, surely it is the right of the artist to express his views. Not in Germany though.

I just came back from Berlin, a couple of days ago, and I did a certain action (jokingly) on the site of what used to be Hitler's bunker, just to stick a middle finger up at Germany's ridiculous laws regarding the issue.
 

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Oh come ON! It's a GARDEN GNOME, of course it's a satire! Garden gnomes have always struck me as rather ridiculous, so making one give the nazi salute is really rather funny. Can you imagine Adolf Hitler riding in a car past a crowd of saluting men 10 inches tall with beards and funny hats?
 

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Obtusifolius said:
It doesn't look ridiculous enough to be ridiculing Nazis. I said pro.

Rednog said:
It is a garden gnome making a nazi salute...really people having nothing better to do than analyze a garden gnome making a nazi salute...
And look at you, you've got nothing better to do than wonder whether people have anything better to do than wonder whether gnomes are Nazis.
the difference is noone asked these people if they though the gnomes were anti/pro nazi, rednog HAS been asked.

OT who cares its a garden gnome, if people want to show their views to the world they rarely use garden ornaments...