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Hashime

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Hashime said:
I have many issues with it, Mainly:
-The voice acting, both Japanese and English (the English actors suck and I hate the sound of tonal languages).
-The over-sexualization, It breaks the immersion for me, and is just sick in some cases.
-The art style, it just does not work for me, everything is too bright and exaggerated
-The drawn out drama, it is painful and slow in many situations. ex. dragon ball
-Cultural difference, many Japanese cultural symbols / references are lost or misunderstood on me
-The music, I just hate the soundtrack of all the anime pieces I have seen

I would say story, but I can not judge the storytelling of a medium by a few examples

Just to clarify: OH GOD THOSE VOICES! THEY ARE LIKE NEEDLES FILLED WITH H2SO4 IN MY EARS, IT HURTS, IT Hurts....
I like some Anime, there is good anime and bad anime (maybe most of it nowadays). I don't mind the Japanese voice acting, but I understand why people may find it annoying.

However, the Japanese language is not tonal :) (the Chinese languages are, Japanese and Korean are not).
I was hoping someone would call me on that. It is good someone knows the difference.
 

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While I dont dislike anime or manga as a rule I do have to admit that some of it can turn me off.

Some of the stories can br vary drawn out, others like Cowboy Bebop, G.I.T.S., and Avatar (yes I know its american but you cant ignore the obvious similarity and cultural influence) are capable of pacing themselves well. Each episode or chapter is its own complete story while also weaving itself into an overarching one. While I do admit to enjoy Nartuo and bleach in small burst they becuase very tedious and annoying in the long run.

Also some of the stories are just a bit to odd for me. While I do enjoy a strange story I do have my limits.
 

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Wandering_Hero said:
No option for padding and filler or the endless, dull, 1 deimnesonal stock characthers (making the articfically slowed down dialgoue all the more annoying)?
Watch Elfen Lied/Murder Princess/Shakugun no Shana/Mai Hime...

Cba listing them all. The point is, that's a problem with the writing, not the medium, it's like judging all films by the 'disaster movie/epic movie' franchise abomination.

Hashime said:
I have many issues with it, Mainly:
-The voice acting, both Japanese and English (the English actors suck and I hate the sound of tonal languages).
-The over-sexualization, It breaks the immersion for me, and is just sick in some cases.
-The art style, it just does not work for me, everything is too bright and exaggerated
-The drawn out drama, it is painful and slow in many situations. ex. dragon ball
-Cultural difference, many Japanese cultural symbols / references are lost or misunderstood on me
-The music, I just hate the soundtrack of all the anime pieces I have seen

I would say story, but I can not judge the storytelling of a medium by a few examples

Just to clarify: OH GOD THOSE VOICES! THEY ARE LIKE NEEDLES FILLED WITH H2SO4 IN MY EARS, IT HURTS, IT Hurts....
Other than the voice acting, all those are tick-boxed by Claymore.

Ah fuck I'm a fanboi today, but I hated anime a few months back, holding the stereotypical 'it's for kids, do not want' attitude; I wouldn't even have tried it had a friend not forced me to watch Claymore ep1 - and then I was hooked.

 

Antonio Torrente

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Trivun said:
I treat anime much the same as I treat any other TV show or film, whether it's from Japan or not.
Sacman said:
Anime is like any other form of media and is subject to Sturgeon's Law, that states 90% of everything is crap...
Glad to see some other anime fans who aren't blinded by devotion and are able to point out the flaws in their hobby.

This pretty handily summarizes the text wall I wrote earlier. Just like any other form of media, there is good anime and there is bad anime. The problems and stereotypes occur when bad (or just mediocre) anime become insipidly popular and color the public's impression of anime as a whole.

Here is an interesting thought experiment. Imagine that you live in Japan and decided to watch a popular American television show to see what the fuss is all about. You decide to watch Family Guy. How would your impressions of American television be affected? What if the show was a documentary on Astrophysics on the History Channel? What if it was a trashy 80s sitcom filled with sexism and implied wife beating?

I will admit that there are plenty of people in the anime community that are incredibly obsessive and blindly devoted to their chosen hobby. These people exist in every hobby, from gaming to gun ownership and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent these people from influencing the public perception of that hobby. Level headed and mature anime fans are just as embarrassed by their actions as you would expect. Gamers are embarrassed by the cursing 12-year-olds on Modern Warefare and Christians are embarrassed by WBC. There will always be fanatical sociopaths in any hobby.
Nice avatar. oh! and good point
If my avatar is good, than the image I cropped it from might make your head explode : )

yup, I've seen it before. Personally, i like him as regular Alucard a little better than as Genya

Have you seen this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.dailystrength.org/groupfiles/9/1/7/0/10000719/g_1068542096.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/anime-club/media/499086&usg=___qvr6HYNq55kFVvWEFU0TE_fKaM=&h=414&w=600&sz=86&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=xvB4aw_z_ydPTM:&tbnh=169&tbnw=225&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djuste%2Bbelmont%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1142%26bih%3D860%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=597&vpy=135&dur=414&hovh=186&hovw=270&tx=167&ty=145&ei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&oei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Favorite Castlevania art ever. it's of Juste Belmont from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance

P.S. how do you put pictures into your posts like that? or videos? sorry i just never learned this
I believe there's already a thread for forum guides here in the Escapist.
Thanks. Btw, Felix from Golden Sun: The Lost Age? sweet. haha i have that game, never got around to beating it.... *runs to get gameboy*
Yeah he's my fave character in the series and too bad he didn't appear in Dark Dawn physically, only on flashbacks and if you want to beat it try watching walkthroughs on Youtube.
Yeah I liked Felix a lot too. I don't have DS, so i can't play the new one :/. Still, my favorite JRPG character is Ashton Anchors from Star Ocean 2/ Second Evolution/ Star Ocean EX (the TV show)
Back to the topic i already posted a thread 2 months ago about anime cliches that angers people and here it is. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.234792-Your-most-hated-anime-cliche?page=1]

Seriously when will anime studios, writers, seiyus can come up with something that breaks from stereotypes with an interesting story.
Another reason why i like ashton. Unlucky swordsman with two dragons fused to his back and a wooden barrel fetish. I've never heard of anything like it. Plus, Star Ocean 2 had a good, complex story with complex relationship mechanics that lead to over 80 different endings or something. Problem is, i haven't met too many people who know of star ocean. just another example of how good japanese media is usually more under the radar.
well golden sun is also one of those good japanese media that well i can't say under the radar but rather didn't get proper advertisement. still it took six years to make a fucking sequel. and yes the anime that are good i know are like you said easily forgotten or flew under the radar.
Problem is, I haven't seen any of those low key animes haha (unless you count interstella 5555 as low key). I've only seen more popular shows like pokemon, Dragonball, DBZ, FMA, Bleach, etc. Basically whatever stuff was on toonami and some stuff that's on adult swim i have seen at least 30 seconds of
isn't that what the american anime market is. release the things that are guaranteed or have a high chance for profit and forget about the quality. well that's also what's happening to hollywood too. one or two good movies along with 15 or more concentrated feces.
Amen. it's a sad, sad truth.
not just sad, the ugly truth. anyway speaking of movies. most movies based on comics are getting good (ironman 1 and 2, batman begins and the the dark knight etc.)
btw speaking of ironman last night i watched the ironman anime and i could say it pretty good.
and the wolverine anime is especially facepalm worthy, trust me the wolverine anime will just disappoint you.

here is the iron man anime trailer:


and the wolverine trailer:


tell me what you think.
Wow the Ironman one looks good. I gotta check that out. Yeah Wolverine does look pretty lame, which is a pity.
Actually they also plan to make X-Men and Blade anime versions which I am pretty sure they will fucked it up.
 

Antonio Torrente

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Rouse said:
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Rouse said:
recently I had a thought that anime is kinda like Supernatural - it has good ideas in it, very good even, some pretty original, but the way they do it... Is it for fanservice? Is it for girls obsessed with watching gay men sucking their dicks (which is my opinion is the worst of all)? Or the people who create these stuff go out of ideas, see how retarded SOME of the fans are and please their sick imagination with stupidity. I can't think of a lot of new animes who don't have some, even small hint of yaoi stuff, too much fanservice, total weird randomness that doesn't even make sense or just something we've seen so many times already...
Ironic you say that because they are gonna make Supernatural an anime. Here is the trailer:

holy shit.
I had no idea. :O
Wonder what the fangirls will react after seeing this? And will the original actors provide the voices to the characters if they plan to dub this?
 

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Jesus Phish said:
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Sakurazaki1023 said:
Mass B said:
Sakurazaki1023 said:
Trivun said:
I treat anime much the same as I treat any other TV show or film, whether it's from Japan or not.
Sacman said:
Anime is like any other form of media and is subject to Sturgeon's Law, that states 90% of everything is crap...
Glad to see some other anime fans who aren't blinded by devotion and are able to point out the flaws in their hobby.

This pretty handily summarizes the text wall I wrote earlier. Just like any other form of media, there is good anime and there is bad anime. The problems and stereotypes occur when bad (or just mediocre) anime become insipidly popular and color the public's impression of anime as a whole.

Here is an interesting thought experiment. Imagine that you live in Japan and decided to watch a popular American television show to see what the fuss is all about. You decide to watch Family Guy. How would your impressions of American television be affected? What if the show was a documentary on Astrophysics on the History Channel? What if it was a trashy 80s sitcom filled with sexism and implied wife beating?

I will admit that there are plenty of people in the anime community that are incredibly obsessive and blindly devoted to their chosen hobby. These people exist in every hobby, from gaming to gun ownership and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent these people from influencing the public perception of that hobby. Level headed and mature anime fans are just as embarrassed by their actions as you would expect. Gamers are embarrassed by the cursing 12-year-olds on Modern Warefare and Christians are embarrassed by WBC. There will always be fanatical sociopaths in any hobby.
Nice avatar. oh! and good point
If my avatar is good, than the image I cropped it from might make your head explode : )

yup, I've seen it before. Personally, i like him as regular Alucard a little better than as Genya

Have you seen this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.dailystrength.org/groupfiles/9/1/7/0/10000719/g_1068542096.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/anime-club/media/499086&usg=___qvr6HYNq55kFVvWEFU0TE_fKaM=&h=414&w=600&sz=86&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=xvB4aw_z_ydPTM:&tbnh=169&tbnw=225&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djuste%2Bbelmont%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1142%26bih%3D860%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=597&vpy=135&dur=414&hovh=186&hovw=270&tx=167&ty=145&ei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&oei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Favorite Castlevania art ever. it's of Juste Belmont from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance

P.S. how do you put pictures into your posts like that? or videos? sorry i just never learned this
I believe there's already a thread for forum guides here in the Escapist.
Thanks. Btw, Felix from Golden Sun: The Lost Age? sweet. haha i have that game, never got around to beating it.... *runs to get gameboy*
Yeah he's my fave character in the series and too bad he didn't appear in Dark Dawn physically, only on flashbacks and if you want to beat it try watching walkthroughs on Youtube.
Yeah I liked Felix a lot too. I don't have DS, so i can't play the new one :/. Still, my favorite JRPG character is Ashton Anchors from Star Ocean 2/ Second Evolution/ Star Ocean EX (the TV show)
Back to the topic i already posted a thread 2 months ago about anime cliches that angers people and here it is. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.234792-Your-most-hated-anime-cliche?page=1]

Seriously when will anime studios, writers, seiyus can come up with something that breaks from stereotypes with an interesting story.
Another reason why i like ashton. Unlucky swordsman with two dragons fused to his back and a wooden barrel fetish. I've never heard of anything like it. Plus, Star Ocean 2 had a good, complex story with complex relationship mechanics that lead to over 80 different endings or something. Problem is, i haven't met too many people who know of star ocean. just another example of how good japanese media is usually more under the radar.
well golden sun is also one of those good japanese media that well i can't say under the radar but rather didn't get proper advertisement. still it took six years to make a fucking sequel. and yes the anime that are good i know are like you said easily forgotten or flew under the radar.
Problem is, I haven't seen any of those low key animes haha (unless you count interstella 5555 as low key). I've only seen more popular shows like pokemon, Dragonball, DBZ, FMA, Bleach, etc. Basically whatever stuff was on toonami and some stuff that's on adult swim i have seen at least 30 seconds of
isn't that what the american anime market is. release the things that are guaranteed or have a high chance for profit and forget about the quality. well that's also what's happening to hollywood too. one or two good movies along with 15 or more concentrated feces.
Amen. it's a sad, sad truth.
not just sad, the ugly truth. anyway speaking of movies. most movies based on comics are getting good (ironman 1 and 2, batman begins and the the dark knight etc.)
btw speaking of ironman last night i watched the ironman anime and i could say it pretty good.
and the wolverine anime is especially facepalm worthy, trust me the wolverine anime will just disappoint you.

here is the iron man anime trailer:


and the wolverine trailer:


tell me what you think.
Wow the Ironman one looks good. I gotta check that out. Yeah Wolverine does look pretty lame, which is a pity.
The ironman one looked good until about 55 seconds when that sterotypical cocky "i stand in the shadows with hair over my face and a smug look on my face in a long jacket" guy showed up.

Pepper also looks like a ditz in the anime and I fear what they make Tony look like. The scenes of him in the suit though look amazing.
Well here's the second trailer which shows what Tony looks like.
 

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Antonio Torrente said:
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Sakurazaki1023 said:
Mass B said:
Sakurazaki1023 said:
Trivun said:
I treat anime much the same as I treat any other TV show or film, whether it's from Japan or not.
Sacman said:
Anime is like any other form of media and is subject to Sturgeon's Law, that states 90% of everything is crap...
Glad to see some other anime fans who aren't blinded by devotion and are able to point out the flaws in their hobby.

This pretty handily summarizes the text wall I wrote earlier. Just like any other form of media, there is good anime and there is bad anime. The problems and stereotypes occur when bad (or just mediocre) anime become insipidly popular and color the public's impression of anime as a whole.

Here is an interesting thought experiment. Imagine that you live in Japan and decided to watch a popular American television show to see what the fuss is all about. You decide to watch Family Guy. How would your impressions of American television be affected? What if the show was a documentary on Astrophysics on the History Channel? What if it was a trashy 80s sitcom filled with sexism and implied wife beating?

I will admit that there are plenty of people in the anime community that are incredibly obsessive and blindly devoted to their chosen hobby. These people exist in every hobby, from gaming to gun ownership and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent these people from influencing the public perception of that hobby. Level headed and mature anime fans are just as embarrassed by their actions as you would expect. Gamers are embarrassed by the cursing 12-year-olds on Modern Warefare and Christians are embarrassed by WBC. There will always be fanatical sociopaths in any hobby.
Nice avatar. oh! and good point
If my avatar is good, than the image I cropped it from might make your head explode : )

yup, I've seen it before. Personally, i like him as regular Alucard a little better than as Genya

Have you seen this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.dailystrength.org/groupfiles/9/1/7/0/10000719/g_1068542096.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/anime-club/media/499086&usg=___qvr6HYNq55kFVvWEFU0TE_fKaM=&h=414&w=600&sz=86&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=xvB4aw_z_ydPTM:&tbnh=169&tbnw=225&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djuste%2Bbelmont%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1142%26bih%3D860%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=597&vpy=135&dur=414&hovh=186&hovw=270&tx=167&ty=145&ei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&oei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Favorite Castlevania art ever. it's of Juste Belmont from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance

P.S. how do you put pictures into your posts like that? or videos? sorry i just never learned this
I believe there's already a thread for forum guides here in the Escapist.
Thanks. Btw, Felix from Golden Sun: The Lost Age? sweet. haha i have that game, never got around to beating it.... *runs to get gameboy*
Yeah he's my fave character in the series and too bad he didn't appear in Dark Dawn physically, only on flashbacks and if you want to beat it try watching walkthroughs on Youtube.
Yeah I liked Felix a lot too. I don't have DS, so i can't play the new one :/. Still, my favorite JRPG character is Ashton Anchors from Star Ocean 2/ Second Evolution/ Star Ocean EX (the TV show)
Back to the topic i already posted a thread 2 months ago about anime cliches that angers people and here it is. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.234792-Your-most-hated-anime-cliche?page=1]

Seriously when will anime studios, writers, seiyus can come up with something that breaks from stereotypes with an interesting story.
Another reason why i like ashton. Unlucky swordsman with two dragons fused to his back and a wooden barrel fetish. I've never heard of anything like it. Plus, Star Ocean 2 had a good, complex story with complex relationship mechanics that lead to over 80 different endings or something. Problem is, i haven't met too many people who know of star ocean. just another example of how good japanese media is usually more under the radar.
well golden sun is also one of those good japanese media that well i can't say under the radar but rather didn't get proper advertisement. still it took six years to make a fucking sequel. and yes the anime that are good i know are like you said easily forgotten or flew under the radar.
Problem is, I haven't seen any of those low key animes haha (unless you count interstella 5555 as low key). I've only seen more popular shows like pokemon, Dragonball, DBZ, FMA, Bleach, etc. Basically whatever stuff was on toonami and some stuff that's on adult swim i have seen at least 30 seconds of
isn't that what the american anime market is. release the things that are guaranteed or have a high chance for profit and forget about the quality. well that's also what's happening to hollywood too. one or two good movies along with 15 or more concentrated feces.
Amen. it's a sad, sad truth.
not just sad, the ugly truth. anyway speaking of movies. most movies based on comics are getting good (ironman 1 and 2, batman begins and the the dark knight etc.)
btw speaking of ironman last night i watched the ironman anime and i could say it pretty good.
and the wolverine anime is especially facepalm worthy, trust me the wolverine anime will just disappoint you.

here is the iron man anime trailer:


and the wolverine trailer:


tell me what you think.
Wow the Ironman one looks good. I gotta check that out. Yeah Wolverine does look pretty lame, which is a pity.
Actually they also plan to make X-Men and Blade anime versions which I am pretty sure they will fucked it up.
You never know, the Blade one could be good. Can't necessarily vouch for the X-Men one though
 

Antonio Torrente

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Mass B said:
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Mass B said:
Sakurazaki1023 said:
Mass B said:
Sakurazaki1023 said:
Trivun said:
I treat anime much the same as I treat any other TV show or film, whether it's from Japan or not.
Sacman said:
Anime is like any other form of media and is subject to Sturgeon's Law, that states 90% of everything is crap...
Glad to see some other anime fans who aren't blinded by devotion and are able to point out the flaws in their hobby.

This pretty handily summarizes the text wall I wrote earlier. Just like any other form of media, there is good anime and there is bad anime. The problems and stereotypes occur when bad (or just mediocre) anime become insipidly popular and color the public's impression of anime as a whole.

Here is an interesting thought experiment. Imagine that you live in Japan and decided to watch a popular American television show to see what the fuss is all about. You decide to watch Family Guy. How would your impressions of American television be affected? What if the show was a documentary on Astrophysics on the History Channel? What if it was a trashy 80s sitcom filled with sexism and implied wife beating?

I will admit that there are plenty of people in the anime community that are incredibly obsessive and blindly devoted to their chosen hobby. These people exist in every hobby, from gaming to gun ownership and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent these people from influencing the public perception of that hobby. Level headed and mature anime fans are just as embarrassed by their actions as you would expect. Gamers are embarrassed by the cursing 12-year-olds on Modern Warefare and Christians are embarrassed by WBC. There will always be fanatical sociopaths in any hobby.
Nice avatar. oh! and good point
If my avatar is good, than the image I cropped it from might make your head explode : )

yup, I've seen it before. Personally, i like him as regular Alucard a little better than as Genya

Have you seen this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.dailystrength.org/groupfiles/9/1/7/0/10000719/g_1068542096.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/anime-club/media/499086&usg=___qvr6HYNq55kFVvWEFU0TE_fKaM=&h=414&w=600&sz=86&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=xvB4aw_z_ydPTM:&tbnh=169&tbnw=225&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djuste%2Bbelmont%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1142%26bih%3D860%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=597&vpy=135&dur=414&hovh=186&hovw=270&tx=167&ty=145&ei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&oei=Qh37TJ3zEofAsAPfren3DQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Favorite Castlevania art ever. it's of Juste Belmont from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance

P.S. how do you put pictures into your posts like that? or videos? sorry i just never learned this
I believe there's already a thread for forum guides here in the Escapist.
Thanks. Btw, Felix from Golden Sun: The Lost Age? sweet. haha i have that game, never got around to beating it.... *runs to get gameboy*
Yeah he's my fave character in the series and too bad he didn't appear in Dark Dawn physically, only on flashbacks and if you want to beat it try watching walkthroughs on Youtube.
Yeah I liked Felix a lot too. I don't have DS, so i can't play the new one :/. Still, my favorite JRPG character is Ashton Anchors from Star Ocean 2/ Second Evolution/ Star Ocean EX (the TV show)
Back to the topic i already posted a thread 2 months ago about anime cliches that angers people and here it is. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.234792-Your-most-hated-anime-cliche?page=1]

Seriously when will anime studios, writers, seiyus can come up with something that breaks from stereotypes with an interesting story.
Another reason why i like ashton. Unlucky swordsman with two dragons fused to his back and a wooden barrel fetish. I've never heard of anything like it. Plus, Star Ocean 2 had a good, complex story with complex relationship mechanics that lead to over 80 different endings or something. Problem is, i haven't met too many people who know of star ocean. just another example of how good japanese media is usually more under the radar.
well golden sun is also one of those good japanese media that well i can't say under the radar but rather didn't get proper advertisement. still it took six years to make a fucking sequel. and yes the anime that are good i know are like you said easily forgotten or flew under the radar.
Problem is, I haven't seen any of those low key animes haha (unless you count interstella 5555 as low key). I've only seen more popular shows like pokemon, Dragonball, DBZ, FMA, Bleach, etc. Basically whatever stuff was on toonami and some stuff that's on adult swim i have seen at least 30 seconds of
isn't that what the american anime market is. release the things that are guaranteed or have a high chance for profit and forget about the quality. well that's also what's happening to hollywood too. one or two good movies along with 15 or more concentrated feces.
Amen. it's a sad, sad truth.
not just sad, the ugly truth. anyway speaking of movies. most movies based on comics are getting good (ironman 1 and 2, batman begins and the the dark knight etc.)
btw speaking of ironman last night i watched the ironman anime and i could say it pretty good.
and the wolverine anime is especially facepalm worthy, trust me the wolverine anime will just disappoint you.

here is the iron man anime trailer:


and the wolverine trailer:


tell me what you think.
Wow the Ironman one looks good. I gotta check that out. Yeah Wolverine does look pretty lame, which is a pity.
Actually they also plan to make X-Men and Blade anime versions which I am pretty sure they will fucked it up.
You never know, the Blade one could be good. Can't necessarily vouch for the X-Men one though
Btw this anime studio MadHouse also made the Anime version of Supernatural which will be released January next year in Japan, no idea when it will be released in the west.

I just hope that X-men or Blade will come out half decent at least.
 

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There are a lot of things about anime that piss me off.
The overall weirdness of the storylines
The retarded angst about stupid shit that doesn't matter
The horrible horrible voice acting (believe it)

But the obsessive fans... the damn obsessive weaboo fans. I might be interested in anime if I could find people who can just enjoy it, without it being some big example of how japan is superior in everyway to every other nation.
 

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Since you just recently began rewatching bleach, you may have recognized it.

You know the whole tidbit where people just randomly jump at Ichigo and he either sidesteps to avoid it or full on punches them into the ground? Stuff like that can turn me off certain anime. As stated in the first reply, the contrast between the whole "Im too cool for this shit" and the over the top crazy bits just kill it in moments.

Of course not ALL franchises do this, and I CAN watch ones that do, but it sticks out and its just weird.
 

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fundayz said:
It's all the same. They are all rehashes and copies of each other, almost to a tee. The ones that happen to be innovative and well written usually tend to be labeled as "classics", since you know.. they're not painful to watch.
This. This is exactly the problem. It's not ANY of the options in the poll, just the fact that anime has gone downhill lately, just like video games. This too shall pass, but not without a lot of effort.

RatRace123 said:
But the obsessive fans... the damn obsessive weaboo fans. I might be interested in anime if I could find people who can just enjoy it, without it being some big example of how japan is superior in everyway to every other nation.
Oh, there are a LOT of awesome anime nerds. Many are friends of mine. A lot of it has to do with where you look, though.
 

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I enjoy anime just fine, I just treat it like every other form of media; there are some that I like and some that I don't.
 

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Not a big fan of people who worship it. I mean, I obsess over One Piece. *Points to profile pic* However, I do not worship it.
 

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What I hate about anime: Its fans. Seriously, they suck.

Animes I've seen that I like: One Piece, Desert Punk, Cromartie Highschool.

Animes that I love: FLCL, Gurren Lagann, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.

Animes I've seen that I dislike: Too many to count.


Forgot to mention:

I also dislike its incredibly stiff animation and overuse of stereotypes.


Dead Leaves is an anime film which takes this notion and kills it nice and dead, using over the top almost looney tunes-esque animation.
 

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Anime is just like every other popular topic to talk about, it all comes down to individual tastes and opinions. I have seen way to many examples of people who say they hate anime, and then watch a particular anime show and go "wow this is good, so I hate anime but with the exception of this one."
 

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A lot of recent ones all seem the same. Though there are some really good ones out there. I spent all night explaining the story of FLCL and just enjoying him going "whutduhfuckh?"