Poll: punishment for murder

[TerribleTerryTate]

The guy obviously had some unseen issues to murder her, but she quite clearly was no angel. Cheating then publically humiliating him...she was asking for something bad to happen. However, murder is wrong, and he should get a prison sentence. I don't see how torturing him would be justified (in any situation.)

 

[Borrowed Time]

That statement literally does not compute. I read it three times and i can't feel anything towards it. I hope to god you are joking because the urges to laugh, be appalled, and be astounded all compete and ultimate leaving me with a serious case of WTF.

Edit -

Bah, computer malfunction, anyway, time to type what I was going to.

It's unfortunately true, at least last time I checked. Here in the states it was something like 2 mil to keep someone alive for life, and 3 mil to kill them, because of the red tape crap. I'll try to see if I can find that again.

OT - 25 to life.

 

[ThePirateMan]

Life. Murder is Murder, and it should be dealt with harshly.

Yay!

 

[IamQ]

10 years in jail. I wouldn't say lifetime since hes got a "reason" for the murder, but since that reason obviusly won't cover up for the muder, he still desirves a few years behind bars.

 

[MalevolentJim]

Some people get off being tortured...
And the death sentance is inpractical anyway so thats a bad idea.

How about..now i'm only brainstorming here,but if a man is either charged for murder or rape...how about we take them to the top of the Himilayas and strip them naked and crucify them!

The executor wont have to be put to death for killing him (since thats what would happen if the death sentance went ahead) because he would have died from the cold =D

 

[CroutonsOfDeath]

For me it depends on the type of murder, I suppose. Your general murderer should get life, but I feel like the serial killers or streak killers need to be put to death. I'll also argue that anyone who says the death penalty is "Inhumane" is missing the point, murderers don't have the tendency to be humane. It's quite the hypocrisy I think.

 

[Durahan2]

Life in prision, if we just kill them it would make us hypocrits.

Also that island idea, it's perfect. Good idea for a show too, Surviver; Murder rape Island!

 

[vampirekid.13]

kill him.

 

[ThePirateMan]

I'm not sure about this case, but if a person murders an innocent person he should be put behind bars UNTIL HE DIES(He/she might live the last few years in an old people's home) or simply executed.

Edit: Did I mention bread and water?

 

[fenrizz]

21 years in prison, with the posibility for parole after 2/3 of the time served.

 

[Blakeyboy90]

I put death. As I say life for a life. But I guess people do get sentenced for murder when they are not guilty so i guess that isn't bulletproof..

 

[captainwillies]

Life. Murder is Murder, and it should be dealt with harshly.

but does not situation and intent change the crime?

say there is a child in school and on the way home he mistakenly takes another kids bag. now imagine another child but unlike the first he deliberatly pre-medidates his actions and a takes another childs bag home on purpose.

these two children have committed the same crime. by your logic they should both be punished the same way.

but in a sense this is not true they didn't commit the same crime, the first child had no "intent" it was an accident.

now @topic personally if he had no previous history of murder and the cause was in "retaliation" of open provication i would be more inclined to send him to counciling. however if he commit the same crime again he should definitly be jailed.

 

[DSQ]

Life in prisenment, not forever but like 25 yrs.

 

[captainwillies]

man as I'm reading replies not many people have actually thought this out and are giving knee jerk reactions that were probably programed into them.

 

[asinann]

Yes, all acts of homicide should be dealt with using extreme force. I don't want to pay for murderers to eat better than bums and get free cable tv.

EDIT: there is one way to appease both crowds. The people who don't want to pay and the people who don't want to kill. And it is this...

Everyone convicted of a serious enough crime should be sent to a large island in the south pacific and dropped off on the beach. All of them on the same island. Fend for themselves, create their own convict laws and do whatever the hell they want. Set a couple coastguard boats to patrol the waters in case they decide to make a raft. That is it. Problem solved.

It actually costs more to put someone to death in America than it does to put them in prison for 50 years.

man as I'm reading replies not many people have actually thought this out and are giving knee jerk reactions that were probably programed into them.

You're comparing murder to theft. The two crimes are on a completely different scale. There are different types of murder though for a reason, this is clearly not a case of 1st degree (premeditated) but it is clearly 2nd degree (meant to do it, but really didn't plan it.)
The difference in sentences, one can get you lethal injection, the other one has a max sentence of 25 years.

He meant to kill the girl, and if we used, "Well she provoked me," as a defense every man that kills a woman would try to use that to get out of their punishment. Since this was clearly just a one time act, toss him away for 10 years, make sure he won't do it again. But he is a first time offender, so courts tend to be a bit on the lenient side. He should and will serve some prison time, but as long as he's remorseful, he probably won't serve much time.

I'm not sure about this case, but if a person murders an innocent person he should be put behind bars UNTIL HE DIES(He/she might live the last few years in an old people's home) or simply executed.

Edit: Did I mention bread and water?

Bread and water have been declared unconstitutional by the supreme court, as has taking away their cable television. And as for innocence, no one is innocent. You're birth certificate is proof of your guilt, end of story.

 

[DSQ]

man as I'm reading replies not many people have actually thought this out and are giving knee jerk reactions that were probably programed into them.

FINE!!

Even thought the man killed the woman in the heat of the moment no-one deseves to get murdered (including the murderer). So I beleave that the law in my country (Scotland) deals with the muderers in the right way. Take them away from there friends and family for up to 25 yrs (depending on the circumstances)and then when they come out the real punishment will be having to reajust to a world that is no longer the one they lived in 25 yrs ago and the sigma of being a murderer.
That is the real pumishment.

 

[captainwillies]

You're comparing murder to theft. The two crimes are on a completely different scale.

no I'm not comparing murder to theft I'm using a simplified example to demonstrate that "intent" can actually change the entire crime.

He meant to kill the girl, and if we used, "Well she provoked me," as a defense every man that kills a woman would try to use that to get out of their punishment.

there is a difference between "she provoked me at home with no one around" and "she humilated me on pulic radio"

also keep in mind I'm not defending the guy I'm just saying that with my form of analysis the "death penalty" or even "life in prison" might be a little hasty for this case.

Since this was clearly just a one time act, toss him away for 10 years.

ooooor you could give him counciling even get a psycho analysist in to check on his tendencies. maybe house arrest or maybe a short jail sentence with probation. he displayed no criminal activities before hand which is why prison just sounds to much(imo).

 

[HaruHearts]

I go for equivelant exchange you kill someone it is only fair that you to should be killed.

 

[captainwillies]

man as I'm reading replies not many people have actually thought this out and are giving knee jerk reactions that were probably programed into them.

FINE!!

Even thought the man killed the woman in the heat of the moment no-one deseves to get murdered (including the murderer). So I beleave that the law in my country (Scotland) deals with the muderers in the right way. Take them away from there friends and family for up to 25 yrs (depending on the circumstances)and then when they come out the real punishment will be having to reajust to a world that is no longer the one they lived in 25 yrs ago and the sigma of being a murderer.
That is the real pumishment.

you said "depending on the circumstances". In this case he didn't have a criminal record before hand, he was stable member of society. now his girl friend cheated on him and then humilated him on public radio. now can i ask have you personally ever been cheated on? i've broken up with someone (on good terms too) and that hurt like a *****. this guy not only got betrayed but now everyone will know that hes the cuckold. goddamn i bet he was so consumed by rage that he could plead insanity and win.

but anyway seeing as he had no past criminal activities and in this case the reason why he killed was rather "extreme" maybe councilling with house arrest would be more suitable than 25 years of gangbang ass rape(followed by committing suicide in an appartment by hanging after carving his name in the banister). yay shawshank redemption reference