Poll: punishment for murder

[CNKFan]

Gladiatorial Arena. It solves two problems, 1. It takes care of prison overpopulation, and 2. revenue from ticket sales and pay-per-view.
OT: I say yea olde death penalty.

 

[knight steel]

Ok heres the the scene:A 28 year old man with no previous record has murded a 21 year old girl by strangling her after she had cheated on him then publicly telled every one on radio just to spite him.
She had not told him about her cheating before hand,she was murded that night.Before this crime he was a pefectly stable man with a good steady job.

Is this you? Seriously, be truthful. It sound like you, man.
This is a very specific scenario. You got every event before and up to the murder.
And those are some pretty specific ages. Maybe you should talk to a lawyer.

How did you guess.she had it coming AND WHAT DO I GET 5 YEARS IN BARS.At least you guys weren't the juges.any way that was 6 years ago.


P.s. this is a joke i never hurt a person like that in my life,don't take this serously.

 

[captainwillies]

This is why nice people need to stay the hell out of the criminal justice system.

humans and societies evolve therefore the justices system needs to change with time as well. i do not think the death sentence for theft is a good idea now days and I'm sure you don't either.

Call me when a loved one is murdered(and my sister was)

I'm sorry for your loss

your thoughts and opinions in the matter are invalid.

no your thoughts are now invalid. because something terrible has happened to you your perceptions of certain individuals are now forever change.

I'm not calling for the chair or even life without parole, he does need to be punished for his crime though, and since part of prison involves getting the needed mental health treatment, I'm sure the few sessions he needs to get rid of the rage vs. the years of it he might need to get over the feelings of guilt and shame are better spent making license plates and watching for Bubba.

if that is how you feel then so be it.

You kill someone on purpose, you don't deserve to be safe from prison rape while you get your government funded treatment and shelter.

and thats why people who have suffered a loss from a murderer are not fit to be in the justices system because their judgement may be forever clouded.

 

[Lusulpher]

If she had given him/you AIDS, how would should he/you react? That's the better poll.

Anyway, I voted Counseling, because IT'S THE ONE THAT WORKS.

Plus, temp insanity is all over that one, and I remember a woman running over her husband when he left a motel with his mistress.

The murder is still not justified, and the murderer will agree with you AFTER the fact. Can't even create a punishment for a medical condition that has already passed...
Now if he preys on children after his parole(there are people out there on their 2nd warning about that!), then you can do Life Imprisonment on an island where they are free to kill or coexist.

Battle Royale! or Starcraft(still a forms of counseling)\o/

 

[Delicious]

I am so glad you people aren't placed in charge of such things.

The system isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than 99% of the replies in this thread that happen to be based on nothing more than a few lines of broken English.

 

[Some Fella1]

Torture

Put him on one of those hilarious game shows that humilate people just so they can get something they want... but don't give him anything... except maybe a ration ticket that he can trade in once every 3 days for some food and water. And then when everyone is tired of seeing his sorry ass on TV, we send him to Etheopia.

Or is that too cruel?

 

[SweetCakeKiller]

I say that the death sentence is most probably the best way to make sure nothing happens.
An eye for an eye and all that stuff.
But maybe we should just torture him, and bring him to the edge of reason, and then recruit him as a goverment funded super assassin and they send him to do their evil and make sure 'nobody knows what happend'

Okay, hardman, just one thing. If we're going for eye for an eye, what happens when someone is tried and executed, then it is subsequently brought to light that they were innocent? An innocent person has been subjected to a pre-meditated killing. Who do we kill in this instance? How about we have a list of everyone who is pro-capital punishment, as they are the ones responsible for the state taking this action in the first place, and we kill one of them. If it then turns out that the original suspect was guilty after all, we could kill another one. I'll put you down at the top of the list, shall I?

Of course if someone close to you gets you'll probably thirst for blood- thats why we have justice meted out by objective third parties. The point of justice is to ensure the survival of civilisation when individuals deviate from its established values, not to make people feel better.

OK, I"ll admit you've got a point there, but do you know the phrase "to learn from your mistakes"?
If you give him a jail sentence, he's got to come out someday, and if it is life, it would be most possible that he is dead when this happens. And looking at the poll results 'Life in Jail' would certainly be the more popular punishment.
But now, even if a life sentence might be more cost effective than executing him, it also means that you have made the rest of his life a hell. Even if he is instituted in a 'nice' prison. Also if you, after a couple of decennia, trip over something and find out that he is innocent, you might be able to just let him out. But what for? You destroyed his life, his belief in the system, and he has no choice left but to start from scratch. Even if his family still knows him, he has to rebuild his life, at old age.
If you give them the death sentence, it might be harder to correct these cases in the face of the public, but you saved him the trouble of having to deal with his destroyed life, and the possible persecutions for him being wronged. And it opens op some space in this overpopulated world.

PS: You might find this barbaric, but it was alot simpler in the middle ages. you stole something: your hand is chopped of. You ran from the law, 1st time: legs broken and the punishement from wich you ran away. 2nd time: Your heels chopped of. 3rd time: Head get's chopped. This is maybe 'barbaric' but it saves alot of trouble on the ones that stay alive, save for some heart- and/or physical pain.

 

[esperandote]

something between 10 and life in jail

 

[Macgyvercas]

Yes, all acts of homicide should be dealt with using extreme force. I don't want to pay for murderers to eat better than bums and get free cable tv.

EDIT: there is one way to appease both crowds. The people who don't want to pay and the people who don't want to kill. And it is this...

Everyone convicted of a serious enough crime should be sent to a large island in the south pacific and dropped off on the beach. All of them on the same island. Fend for themselves, create their own convict laws and do whatever the hell they want. Set a couple coastguard boats to patrol the waters in case they decide to make a raft. That is it. Problem solved.

Wasn't that how Austrailia was founded? It's not a bad idea. It worked before.

 

[awesomeemosewa]

Yes, all acts of homicide should be dealt with using extreme force. I don't want to pay for murderers to eat better than bums and get free cable tv.

EDIT: there is one way to appease both crowds. The people who don't want to pay and the people who don't want to kill. And it is this...

Everyone convicted of a serious enough crime should be sent to a large island in the south pacific and dropped off on the beach. All of them on the same island. Fend for themselves, create their own convict laws and do whatever the hell they want. Set a couple coastguard boats to patrol the waters in case they decide to make a raft. That is it. Problem solved.

not to sound pessemistic but man is made for freedome sooner or later there gonna escape(ist) its better to keep them in secure facilitys where they are guarded a cople of costgards wont be able to hold them. that and WHAT THE hell are you thinking if ur gonna punish them why set them on a paradise iland.

If the island is far enough out to see they won't be able to escape without a damn big boat. I'm not talking alcatraz island... more... easter island. Some coastguard ships would be able to keep them there. Do you think Tom Hanks' character was happy in the movie cast away? being on a paradise island is cool for about a month, then its hell. And besides this island is full of rapists and murderers, not exactly a vacation getaway.

fine gess ill give up un this one. i give up you are right. well you got some points i mean its not like they can swim xD i fail

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Uh... 25 years to life? Y'know, what someone would normally get for this kind of crime.

This.

 

[StigmataDiaboli]

Life for a life. That's how the medievals did it, and they turned out ok........yeah...

 

[Random Argument Man]

I'd say life in prison. Make the man realize that what he did cost his whole life.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Life in prison is reasonable. He can't hurt anyone in there, and he can't enjoy living like he did before. Maybe I'm just being kind though, I considered the death penalty first.

 

[Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw]

I'd be tempted to say the death penalty but then something hit me... what if you wrongfully convict someone?

 

[Daemon888]

That's not premeditated murder then right... so it's a crime of passion. Still bat shit crazy though if you ask me, there are better kinds of revenge than strangling someone. Someone that snaps like that outta get taken out, he's gonna go off again over something at some point.

 

[DSQ]

man as I'm reading replies not many people have actually thought this out and are giving knee jerk reactions that were probably programed into them.

FINE!!

Even thought the man killed the woman in the heat of the moment no-one deseves to get murdered (including the murderer). So I beleave that the law in my country (Scotland) deals with the muderers in the right way. Take them away from there friends and family for up to 25 yrs (depending on the circumstances)and then when they come out the real punishment will be having to reajust to a world that is no longer the one they lived in 25 yrs ago and the sigma of being a murderer.
That is the real pumishment.

you said "depending on the circumstances". In this case he didn't have a criminal record before hand, he was stable member of society. now his girl friend cheated on him and then humilated him on public radio. now can i ask have you personally ever been cheated on? i've broken up with someone (on good terms too) and that hurt like a *****. this guy not only got betrayed but now everyone will know that hes the cuckold. goddamn i bet he was so consumed by rage that he could plead insanity and win.

but anyway seeing as he had no past criminal activities and in this case the reason why he killed was rather "extreme" maybe councilling with house arrest would be more suitable than 25 years of gangbang ass rape(followed by committing suicide in an appartment by hanging after carving his name in the banister). yay shawshank redemption reference

LOL true, true. In this case your right the max charge should not be taken out. Maybe five-seven yrs max because he was:1. provoked and 2. it was in a moment of madness.

 

[ArcWinter]

Eye for an Eye, of course. And not the stupid eye-for-eye people think means kill 'em. Do EXACTLY what they did to the victim. Except for special circumstances, like OP mentioned before.

If they are asking for it, it's only polite to give it to them. That man was perfectly justified. Crime of passion, and she was a *****.

Don't tell me you wouldn't have at least punched her in the face.

 

[S-Unleashed]

Putying someone to death for putting someone to death seems hypeorical. Jail for life would seem good.

 

[irishstormtrooper]

Uh... 25 years to life? Y'know, what someone would normally get for this kind of crime.

Exactly. I'm surprised the options go from "life in prison" to "10 years in prison" there are plenty of years in between.