Poll: Railguns or Lasers: which do you prefer

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SckizoBoy

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Sober Thal said:
A Certain Scientific Railgun for me any day.

Of course, she really should be holding both arms out, because railguns require two conductive rods to propel the projectile.

*pretentious sniff* =P

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kelevra said:
Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest ************ alive thanks to a little thing called Inertia.
Uh, I think you'll find he's dead (unless you meant to say 'deadest ************ alive', and if so, then 'huh?!')... Or are you talking about a parallel dimension?

-_- *another pretentious sniff*
 

Merkavar

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lasers are boring. i much prefer sci fi shows that dont use lasers for everything. plus a rail gun will give you a chance to nail someone to a wall.
 

kelevra

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Lasers are pretty flawed as weapons. Simple ablative armour does alot to reduce the effectiveness of their beams, and if you're using it in atmosphere, atmospheric dispersion does a lot to reduce their power.

To clarify, they need to be powerful enough to heat up a tiny section of what they're shooting at in fractions of seconds. If the air isnt clear, less power. If the target is far away, less power. If the target's armour has the slightest (and this is intentional with alot of composite stuff) tendency to burn or rapidly expand, less power. Or the target could be clad in super heat resistant ceramic, like the space shuttle.

Moral of the story is: I go with railguns. Kinetic energy breaks shit in a very satisfying way. Sure, lasers are better in SPAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCEEEEE, but so are railguns. Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest ************ alive thanks to a little thing called Inertia. Ask the dinosaurs :p

Not that lasers arent useful (to shoot down missiles for example) or cool (lightsabers AWWW YEAH- though thats technically a plasma sword) but railguns win. Also, Mass Effect series :)
 

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Is it possible to deflect a laser using a mirror?

I'd love to see a mirror defend itself againt a chunk of metal flying at 8000+ft/sec!

Railguns, without a doubt.
 

Lunar Templar

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Sober Thal said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
Sober Thal said:
A Certain Scientific Railgun for me any day.


o.o what show is that
The show is called ' A Certain Scientific Railgun '. It's a spin off of 'Toaru Majutsu no Index'.

EDIT: You should watch AT LEAST the first episode of Index before Railgun though. Misaka (girl in picture) has a great introduction in the first 5 minutes ; )
hehe, will do thanks :D
 
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Lasers by far.

1) Speed: Light versus Sound. No contest.
2) Penetration: Heat vs Kinetic. No contest. Especially as heat is recurring damage.
3) Range: LOS vs Gravity: No contest
4) Utility: Try turning a Railgun down.
5) Adaptability: Try firing a Railgun underwater.
6) Energy: Total Energy Conversion versus Air pressure. No contest.
7) Ammunition: Closer, but light is still more prevalent.
8) Reliability: One tiny problem in your magazine and boom.
9) Weight/Recoil: Easy win for lasers.
10) Stealth: [sub]zit[/sub] versus BOOM. No contest.

Seriously, the ONLY thing Railguns have in their favour is blowback.
 

Ryan Myst

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Lasers by far.

1) Speed: Light versus Sound. No contest.
2) Penetration: Heat vs Kinetic. No contest. Especially as heat is recurring damage.
3) Range: LOS vs Gravity: No contest
4) Utility: Try turning a Railgun down.
5) Adaptability: Try firing a Railgun underwater.
6) Energy: Total Energy Conversion versus Air pressure. No contest.
7) Ammunition: Closer, but light is still more prevalent.
8) Reliability: One tiny problem in your magazine and boom.
9) Weight/Recoil: Easy win for lasers.
10) Stealth: [sub]zit[/sub] versus BOOM. No contest.

Seriously, the ONLY thing Railguns have in their favour is blowback.
I know this is a bit late, but it wouldn't stop bothering me. http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

1) Speed: In this case you are half-right. Nothing can beat the speed of light, however the speed of a railgun's projectile FAR exceeds the speed of sound (a railgun shoots at 11,500 feet per second or approximately Mach 10.) In relation to guns today, they don't need to be any faster aside from power.

2) Penetration: Not much of today's armor (or probably that of the future) could stop an impact with that much force. Also, if you know much about guns and entry/exit wounds generally, you know what kind of damage this means.

3) Range: LOS is actually worse than gravity in Earth's conditions as lasers couldn't be fired like the artillery of today which impact beyond the horizon. In space conditions, I go to Newton's first law.

4) Utility: As far as weapons are concerned, why would you want to turn down the power of a railgun? I acknowledge lasers could be turned down to cauterize wounds, but I doubt they would use a weaponized laser for that purpose

5) Adaptability: A laser would lose most if not all of its heat energy vaporizing the water near the beam (much like how it would lose energy to the intended target), though a railgun wouldn't do much better underwater functionally.

6) Energy: Railguns aren't conventional weapons and don't rely on air pressure or gunpowder to shoot the projectile. (Magnets, how do they work?) Railguns would use much less energy to propel a greater destructive force.

7) Ammunition: No problem really, ammunition would essentially be loads of metallic weight.

8) Reliability: There are no explosive charges in railgun ammo, only when they hit you do they go boom. Speaking of a boom, kinetic energy itself can be great enough to cause an explosion (big enough to be like that of a nuclear weapon,) doing more damage over an area than a laser.

9) Weight/Recoil: The energy required for either railguns or lasers would require a power plant to work how they do in sci-fi (Halo specifically). You wouldn't need to worry about weight or recoil when mounted on the ground. In space, you have to compensate for equal and opposite reactions, however weight would not be a problem.

10) Stealth: There is no air in space to transfer sound, and there isn't much stealthy about light bright enough to melt steel.

We're also much closer today to developing railgun technology than we are lasers.
 

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Ever since i got my hand on a chaingun in Wolfenstien3D .. Railguns FTW
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Ryan Myst said:
I know this is a bit late, but it wouldn't stop bothering me. http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
Duty Calls is above my computer, from Randall himself.

1) Speed: Reaction Time - Railguns still have to lead their targets.

2) Penetration: Kinectic Energy can be deflected, ablated, redirected though. Heat is far more powerful Joule for Joule.

3) Range: Bouncing, dear boy :)

4) Utility: Because railguns produce stupid amounts of heat from the kinetic wind-up. Unless you can run them on (half), then every shot is putting the gun under full strain.

5) Adaptability: There are underwater lasers. They just have to be coloured to not interact with the water.

6) Energy: Railguns aren't conventional weapons and don't rely on air pressure or gunpowder to shoot the projectile. (Magnets, how do they work?) Railguns would use much less energy to propel a greater destructive force.

7) Ammunition: No problem really, ammunition would essentially be loads of metallic weight.

8) Reliability: "Bullet" in gun. "bullet" goes slightly off...railgun is torn apart in the resultant blowback. Even a piece of paper loaded into a railgun will tear off the front of the barrel if it flaps.

9) Weight/Recoil: For personal weapons - or mech based - Weight/Recoil is incredibly important.

10) Stealth: Railguns leave a huge path of disrupted space, and if you can spot that laser, it's already shot you.
We're also much closer today to developing railgun technology than we are lasers.
Won't argue with that, but we fell behind with needlers, which would be equally useful.
 

Nairang

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Railguns since they lunch slug at extreme velocity thereby having a much much higher damage potential then a thermal laser, and with kinetic weapons you also have the option of shaped slugs so it has many more possible uses