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Cavouku

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Zombie_Fish said:
blue_guy said:
I get very irritated by people at 3 or below.

"I believe in God, I have no proof and I don't have to show it to you" - someone needs to have there naivety sucked out.
You do realise that there is also no proof that there is no God?

OT: I'm a 4. I don't know whether or not a God exists and to be honest, I don't care either.

Neither side has a foolproof arguement to state that they're correct, so why argue about it?
Admirable approach to it. Neither side has proof, and the logicies for or against God are endless in arguments.
 

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Zombie_Fish said:
blue_guy said:
I get very irritated by people at 3 or below.

"I believe in God, I have no proof and I don't have to show it to you" - someone needs to have there naivety sucked out.
You do realise that there is also no proof that there is no God?

OT: I'm a 4. I don't know whether or not a God exists and to be honest, I don't care either.

Neither side has a foolproof arguement to state that they're correct, so why argue about it?
I'm an idiot, I should learn to read... :p
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
Akai Shizuku said:
yosophat said:
Semitendon said:
I am curious, how exactly would you prove that God exists, or does not exist?

From what I have seen, people who believe in God usually do so as a matter of faith. Although they can site examples of creative design, miracles, and other suppossedly "God" inspired things, it always boils down to faith. As well it should, since it is a matter of spirituallity rather than science. In Christianity, faith in Jesus/God is the point. So it becomes more of an issue of whether you believe the idea, rather than ability to prove the existence.

For people who claim athieism, the question is equally if not more confusing. Since God is a considered a spiritual being by most people, there is no scientific evidence that can be applied. If there is no scientific evidence, then you must rely on YOUR ability to accept a God or not. Which quickly spirals into ridiculousness. How does not liking the way the world works and thinking life is unfair or unjust, prove that there is no God? Just because things don't happen the way you think they should, doesn't mean there is no God.

Maybe it would be a better world for everyone if the religious relied on faith to influence the non-religious, rather than invading privacy, attacking, and insisting everyone except them was going to hell. Maybe it would be a better world if the atheist's and others like them stopped antagonizing, insulting, and attacking the beliefs of the religious.
Greatest idea ever! I think I'll start praying now.
Akai Shizuku said:
I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% certain that God exists.

When a rabbit runs through the snow, does it not leave footprints?
That's deep...
Sometimes I think about the uncountable amount of life on the planet; it all shares the same atoms and molecules; all those atoms were created in the center of our solar system; and any one of those atoms is billions of years old; and I think there has to be some purpose there has to be a God. This is me at my most certain.
Have you ever studied biology? Are you aware of how mind-buggeringly complex even some of the most simple creatures are? It's just impossible that this happened by coincidence.
Obviously you haven't studied Evolution, because it's nothing at all like 'coincidence'. It's natural reproduction with survival of the fittest kicking in with genes.
Cliff_m85 my answer is God created evolution; no mortal can recreate evolution especially not knowing what every gene does. Then what gene groups do and God knows why some genes are dormant, how many genes make up a group are there dormant groups? How one mutation only happen once in a while in a rather large amount of time specially in larger animals that have offspring in seasons. Consider AIDS, my favorite virus, there a a couple of million of people infected with it there is probably a million if not more viruses reproducing fast if not exponentially. So out of all of those walking petri dishes wouldn't one of them have an evolved version of airborne AIDS, well I know the answer is no because thats not how HIV works but according to evolution it could happen but it hasn't. YES Akai Shizuku biology is "mind-buggeringly" complex that's why I'm studying Chemistry instead lol.
 

Cavouku

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Oh no. Now now everyone, we can state our religions or beliefs without our reasons, such things only start arguments... Oh who the hell am I kidding? *hides in bunker* Flame on.
 

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conquerworm said:
GodsOneMistake said:
gotcha, no problem.... I was just curious about how someone could have that kind of belief, not religious but believe in a god I mean... It's very interesting to me
I Believe in God 110% and I hate religions. How is it possible to believe in God and not religion? Its a personal relationship with God. Cant say that my relationship with my friends is a religion, can you?

My 2 cents.
That's the spirit. You don't let yourself been molded into the faceless mob that follows blindly their Religious leaders.
Everyone should, and only should, have their very own personal faith.
Then the World would be a better place.
 

Cavouku

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yosophat said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Akai Shizuku said:
yosophat said:
Semitendon said:
I am curious, how exactly would you prove that God exists, or does not exist?

From what I have seen, people who believe in God usually do so as a matter of faith. Although they can site examples of creative design, miracles, and other suppossedly "God" inspired things, it always boils down to faith. As well it should, since it is a matter of spirituallity rather than science. In Christianity, faith in Jesus/God is the point. So it becomes more of an issue of whether you believe the idea, rather than ability to prove the existence.

For people who claim athieism, the question is equally if not more confusing. Since God is a considered a spiritual being by most people, there is no scientific evidence that can be applied. If there is no scientific evidence, then you must rely on YOUR ability to accept a God or not. Which quickly spirals into ridiculousness. How does not liking the way the world works and thinking life is unfair or unjust, prove that there is no God? Just because things don't happen the way you think they should, doesn't mean there is no God.

Maybe it would be a better world for everyone if the religious relied on faith to influence the non-religious, rather than invading privacy, attacking, and insisting everyone except them was going to hell. Maybe it would be a better world if the atheist's and others like them stopped antagonizing, insulting, and attacking the beliefs of the religious.
Greatest idea ever! I think I'll start praying now.
Akai Shizuku said:
I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% certain that God exists.

When a rabbit runs through the snow, does it not leave footprints?
That's deep...
Sometimes I think about the uncountable amount of life on the planet; it all shares the same atoms and molecules; all those atoms were created in the center of our solar system; and any one of those atoms is billions of years old; and I think there has to be some purpose there has to be a God. This is me at my most certain.
Have you ever studied biology? Are you aware of how mind-buggeringly complex even some of the most simple creatures are? It's just impossible that this happened by coincidence.
Obviously you haven't studied Evolution, because it's nothing at all like 'coincidence'. It's natural reproduction with survival of the fittest kicking in with genes.
Cliff_m85 my answer is God created evolution; no mortal can recreate evolution especially not knowing what every gene does. Then what gene groups do and God knows why some genes are dormant, how many genes make up a group are there dormant groups? How one mutation only happen once in a while in a rather large amount of time specially in larger animals that have offspring in seasons. Consider AIDS, my favorite virus, there a a couple of million of people infected with it there is probably a million if not more viruses reproducing fast if not exponentially. So out of all of those walking petri dishes wouldn't one of them have an evolved version of airborne AIDS, well I know the answer is no because thats not how HIV works but according to evolution it could happen but it hasn't. YES Akai Shizuku biology is "mind-buggeringly" complex that's why I'm studying Chemistry instead lol.
Abiogenesis can say that the first life could have happened unnaturaly. You know, proteins mixing with this and that and whatever. But still, this didn't answer some question about the nucleoid or whatever it was. And in truth, I think that there's too much stuff that conveniently happens, personally, and at the very least there should be a conductor.
 

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yosophat said:
Cliff_m85 my answer is God created evolution; no mortal can recreate evolution especially not knowing what every gene does. Then what gene groups do and God knows why some genes are dormant, how many genes make up a group are there dormant groups? How one mutation only happen once in a while in a rather large amount of time specially in larger animals that have offspring in seasons. Consider AIDS, my favorite virus, there a a couple of million of people infected with it there is probably a million if not more viruses reproducing fast if not exponentially. So out of all of those walking petri dishes wouldn't one of them have an evolved version of airborne AIDS, well I know the answer is no because thats not how HIV works but according to evolution it could happen but it hasn't. YES Akai Shizuku biology is "mind-buggeringly" complex that's why I'm studying Chemistry instead lol.
DAmn I pressed post instead of preview. Wait a sec...

God created Evolution. Very clever, trying to mix religion and science. Why not they are both invented by humans.

"according to evolution it could happen but it hasn't."
Ehhh.... It could happen means that it's not going to happen for sure. And changes in life forms according to evolution take thousands of thousands of years. AIDS? Ain't that quite a "new" thing.
 

Cavouku

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My dad's got a saying;

"There are no Atheists in a plane crash."
I Just thought it was funny ^ ^
 

Akai Shizuku

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Cliff_m85 said:
Akai Shizuku said:
yosophat said:
Semitendon said:
I am curious, how exactly would you prove that God exists, or does not exist?

From what I have seen, people who believe in God usually do so as a matter of faith. Although they can site examples of creative design, miracles, and other suppossedly "God" inspired things, it always boils down to faith. As well it should, since it is a matter of spirituallity rather than science. In Christianity, faith in Jesus/God is the point. So it becomes more of an issue of whether you believe the idea, rather than ability to prove the existence.

For people who claim athieism, the question is equally if not more confusing. Since God is a considered a spiritual being by most people, there is no scientific evidence that can be applied. If there is no scientific evidence, then you must rely on YOUR ability to accept a God or not. Which quickly spirals into ridiculousness. How does not liking the way the world works and thinking life is unfair or unjust, prove that there is no God? Just because things don't happen the way you think they should, doesn't mean there is no God.

Maybe it would be a better world for everyone if the religious relied on faith to influence the non-religious, rather than invading privacy, attacking, and insisting everyone except them was going to hell. Maybe it would be a better world if the atheist's and others like them stopped antagonizing, insulting, and attacking the beliefs of the religious.
Greatest idea ever! I think I'll start praying now.
Akai Shizuku said:
I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% certain that God exists.

When a rabbit runs through the snow, does it not leave footprints?
That's deep...
Sometimes I think about the uncountable amount of life on the planet; it all shares the same atoms and molecules; all those atoms were created in the center of our solar system; and any one of those atoms is billions of years old; and I think there has to be some purpose there has to be a God. This is me at my most certain.
Have you ever studied biology? Are you aware of how mind-buggeringly complex even some of the most simple creatures are? It's just impossible that this happened by coincidence.
Obviously you haven't studied Evolution, because it's nothing at all like 'coincidence'. It's natural reproduction with survival of the fittest kicking in with genes.
Yes, because such complicated systems can just happen all by themselves.
 

Akai Shizuku

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Cavouku said:
My dad's got a saying;

"There are no Atheists in a plane crash."
|Just thought it was funny ^ ^
That's a good point, and it works towards the theory that it is human nature to worship.
 

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I have an idea I've been mulling around for a while:
What if God and the Big Bang are one and the same? IE, what if divinity is the human construct to explain the incredible truth that we exist? Christians would have us believe that God created heaven and Earth, and that we are created in his image (love/creation). The Big Bang, created the universe and by extension created man; we endeavor to create both technology and life. So, that in mind, aren't these the same thing?

For the record, I responded as 50/50 to the poll. Sorry, this may just be a drunken ramble, but its been on my mind.
 

Lusty

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I'm a 6 if we're talking about a possibility of 'a God'. However if we're talking about the existence of the Christian God I'm bumped up to a 7, since it is simply not possible for the God described in the bible to exist.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% certain that God exists.

When a rabbit runs through the snow, does it not leave footprints?
Perhaps but how do you know what left the tracks?
 

CosmicCommander

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I said 7, but I'm actually an 8, I dont just not believe in a God, I'm dedicated to abolishing the concept of one
 

Cavouku

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Akai Shizuku said:
Cavouku said:
My dad's got a saying;

"There are no Atheists in a plane crash."
|Just thought it was funny ^ ^
That's a good point, and it works towards the theory that it is human nature to worship.
Save my soul and whatnot. And forgive me for thinking that if it's in our nature, it is for a reason.
 

Goldbling

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I voted 2.00 but I'm really 1.00, I Firmly believe there is a God. Maybe not the one I believe in, but there is defiantly a God.

Mookie_Magnus said:
I can understand perfectly why 6's and 7's believe the way they do. But the thing I ask to them is this: Why should you care what I do with my spirit? Let me believe what I please, and you can do the same.
This.