Poll: Republicans: Your take

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Alrocsmash

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MagicMouse said:
Alrocsmash said:
Both sides are idiots. I'm fully waiting for a hybrid system that does not want to give all of our money away to lazy morons, or hold on to 2000 year old out dated unfounded religious dogma.
Libertarianism is what you are looking for.

Too bad they never get elected.
 

runnernda

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Republicans are people. That's all. They believe in certain things and disagree with other things. Sure, some are blindly following what they've been told. Some are ignorant. Some are close-minded. But that's not limited to Republicans. You'll find people like that everywhere with all sorts of different political beliefs. I don't agree with most conservative beliefs, but I appreciate those people with logical, well-thought out reasons why they believe what they do. I love debating, and I'll do so with anyone as long as the person with whom I'm debating isn't an idiot.

Those who are conservative because of religious beliefs, though? I'll smack them upside the head with a history lesson about the separation of church and state.
 

funguy2121

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
Zakarath said:
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No, Bill is a republican. I don't know where you get the idea that he is non-partisan...

(protip: if there's a Fox News logo located in the vicinity of a newscaster, then they are a Republican)
I'm sorry, I don't even know how to respond to such an ignorant statement. I guess you get a point for blowing my fucking mind.
Ok, maybe not all the newscasters are conservative; but any time the channel provides political commentary, it's a safe bet that its from a republican/conservate/right-wing viewpoint. O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, Huckabee... the list goes on.
O'Reilly is non-partisan. Beck is a Libertarian. Hannity and Huckabee are Republicans. But that's like, what 4 people out of everyone they employ? And you only got 2 right?
Fox has, more than once, stated that Fox'n'Friends, O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, and every single personality/show the network is known for (and more than 75% of their programming) constitutes "personality programming" and should not be considered news. The 4 you mentioned my claim Libertarian or independent status, but they vote Republican, they support Republican candidates and agendas, and they demonize Democrats with lies.
 

Meowshi

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Skullkid4187 said:
Souplex said:
hurricanejbb said:
Short answer: Republicans suck. Democrats suck. The best political party is the Libertarian party.
Libertarianism is the political ideology of spoiled children.
CAPTCHA: nolvedur 108,
*hats off* to you! I think the Republican party is the best answer for America's political leaders. Seriously would Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the Founding Bunch go democrat? Especially after hearing about carter and jackson? I think not!
Yeah, owning slaves and killing Indians doesn't really mesh with modern day Democratic policies.
 

MagicMouse

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Alrocsmash said:
MagicMouse said:
Alrocsmash said:
Both sides are idiots. I'm fully waiting for a hybrid system that does not want to give all of our money away to lazy morons, or hold on to 2000 year old out dated unfounded religious dogma.
Libertarianism is what you are looking for.

Too bad they never get elected.
I know right. At this point in time voting for a Libertarian is the equivalent of voting for the Democratic party, as all it does is take Republican votes away.

Two party system FTL.
 

Harry Mason

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A Republican is the only thing more loathsome and despicable than a Democrat. They are two different breeds of the same evil who just vary in degree of corrupt.

Also, and please excuse my ignorance on this matter, but do the Brits have "Republican" and "Democrat" equivalencies? British government baffles me, and I know the Escapists has a sizable population from over the drink...
 

funguy2121

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Grickit said:
I'm a conservative, but I can't stand most mainstream republicans. The republican party has not stood for conservativeness for a very long time. They've been corrupted into this perverted combination of corporatism and theocracy.

Just look at what they've wasted our time with so far this year:

1. Abortion
2. Abortion
3. Abortion
4. Trying to repeal healthcare regulations
5. De-funding education
6. Abortion
7. Fighting gay rights
8. Abortion
9. Union busting
10. Trying to make sodomy a crime in Texas again
11. Abortion
12. Reaffirming (Whatever that means) the "in God we trust" slogan.
13. Abortion

Conservative governments should not be in our wombs telling us what to do. Should not be telling us who to love. Should not be in our beds telling us how to... you know. They should not be printing religious stuff all over the place. Et cetera.

For the past two years the republicans obstinately blocked anything proposed and demanded "WHERE ARE THE JOBS!?". But now they have a turn in the spotlight and they're letting us down even harder than the democrats did. What the heck?

And I won't even get started on Bush who we elected as a republican and then he turned out to be this massive spending loving, freedom stripping, liberal who totally broke the economy.

Apart from healthcare reform, I'd say that Obama has actually turned out to be more of a republican than Bush. Actually, on second thought, one could make an argument comparing healthcare reform to the patriot act in terms of which is more liberal...

Okay so I guess I did get started on Bush after-all. :p

tl;dr version: Republicans aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. I'm a little peeved.
I know - doesn't sound very 'libertarian,' does it? Yet overwhelmingly libertarians will vote for republican candidates
 

BlumiereBleck

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Meowshi said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Souplex said:
hurricanejbb said:
Short answer: Republicans suck. Democrats suck. The best political party is the Libertarian party.
Libertarianism is the political ideology of spoiled children.
CAPTCHA: nolvedur 108,
*hats off* to you! I think the Republican party is the best answer for America's political leaders. Seriously would Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the Founding Bunch go democrat? Especially after hearing about carter and jackson? I think not!
Yeah, owning slaves and killing Indians doesn't really mesh with modern day Democratic policies.
oooooorrrrrr does it ;)
 

tehroc

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Socks and Shoes said:
I wouldn't give a damn, for every paranoid fundamentalist tea party member that votes republican, there are a thousand normal people who do it because they believe in having a small government and low taxes. The sad thing is that there are too few politicians that aren't hypocritical liars.
Republicans don't believe in small government though. The small government they want only applies to their own businesses. It's big government as usual when it comes to social issues. They tell you what you can do, they tell you what you can think, they tell you who you can do it with.
 

Alrocsmash

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MagicMouse said:
Alrocsmash said:
MagicMouse said:
Alrocsmash said:
Both sides are idiots. I'm fully waiting for a hybrid system that does not want to give all of our money away to lazy morons, or hold on to 2000 year old out dated unfounded religious dogma.
Libertarianism is what you are looking for.

Too bad they never get elected.
I know right. At this point in time voting for a Libertarian is the equivalent of voting for the Democratic party, as all it does is take Republican votes away.

Two party system FTL.
Ya the 2 party system was more of what I was commenting on regarding a hybrid system. America is SO black and white. Labels are how we define ourselves. Boyfriend girlfriend, fat or thin, west coast east coast, republican democratic. Gray area exists, and its a great place to be.
 

DaJoW

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Well, a Republican here is someone who wants the removal of the Monarchy, which I'm fine with. Don't agree with them though.

Conservative by Swedish standards: Doesn't bother me much as long as we don't discuss politics extensively. Conservative by US standards in Sweden: Worried, because it's very, very far from the "normal" political spectrum here. If it was in the US I wouldn't have a problem with it.
 

silent-treatment

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Merh ALL political parties suck. Everyone of them. They bind people into one way of thinking, and promote voting purely down party line. Republicans claim to want small government, but what they really want is to be able to fuck over workers, while making sure the gay ones cant marry and the women can't get abortions. The Democrats claim to want everyone to be free, but create situations where one is forced to be in that situation (see the heath care bill they passed). All I want is to be able to live my life they way that I see fit, follow that law, and pursue my happiness.
 

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The Long Road said:
Now I've read some posts on here that say "Republicans demonize whole groups of the population!" Have you ever heard a Democrat talk about "the rich"? If you didn't know better, you'd think anyone with money spent their days eating puppy stew and making immigrants dance for their amusement. Both sides have groups they consistently target, but at least Republicans don't do it to the people who run the economy.
So Republicans are better because they only bully powerless minorities instead of the people who actually have the resources to fight back? Bravo.
 

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I'm from Germany, so from what I've heard nobody likes either side and they're both parties consisting of filthy spineless cowards only thinking of cashbags.

You know, what pretty much everyone says about their government unless he lives in Best Korea. /joke
 

funguy2121

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Remove personhood for corporations, severely limit lobbying ability for them, regulate the hell out of industry, balance the budget, get rid of the tax loopholes for the wealthy, get us out of this debt and back to the annual surplus that Clinton's administration had us on (which may have even eliminated the national debt by now), reverse all laws put in place by Reagan and the Bushes and Clinton involving martial law, the PATRIOT Act, Extraordinary Rendition and circumventions of the checks and balances in the constitution.

Then, I'll be happy to talk about limiting government and un-graduating the taxes.
 

Jumpingbean3

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Griffolion said:
Basically, i know Republicans are a little more traditional/right wing and Democrats are more progressive/left wing. Is that right?

I can't say i'm particularly savvy with the intricate ins and outs of the republicans and the democrats (i'm from the UK). But i watched this guy on You Tube called Bill O Reilly and i thought he was a complete tosser for the way he treats people on his shows. Is he a republican or a democrat? I'm not going to base my whole opinion structure on that one person, but i'd just like to know.
Bill is on Fox News which is pretty much 100% Republican/Conservative.

As for the Demo vs Repub thing in America they're considered Left and Right Wing respectively. Over here in the UK Democrats are just slightly less Right Wing than the Republicans. Then again a lot of Republicans won't even accept that Fascism is Right Wing (and before anyone says it's Left Wing when you take either side to the extreme the pretty much come full circle and become virtually identical)

Riff Moonraker said:
A taxpayer voting for a democrat is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
I'll admit that's true to a certain extent but I'll also argue that voting for Republican is like a cow voting for Ronald McDonald (again to a certain extent); Both the Government and Private Business are equally capable of screwing you over it's just that Private Business is more subtle about it due to the fear of losing customers and I'd wager that if Corporations were in control they'd try to make it a law to give them money too.

It ultimately comes down to balance. Government and Business are capable of doing an equal amount of both good and bad and the real question is "which is more likely to do more good than bad?"

Then again I guess in the grand scheme of things it makes little difference. From my point of view both the Left and Right Wing politicians are so incredibly petty and uncooperative that the only way we'll have a lasting common ground is when a Centrist party comes along.